Shady Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Democrat Barack Obama also appointed a Catholic...Justice Sonia Sotomayor. It’s funny to listen to Argus complain about a judge that if she were being sworn in on the Canadian Supreme Court, he’d love. But because TDS makes one oppose anything Trump, you get this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Argus said: Well, unlike the Trump cult I haven't been following any of the senate hearings or the news about them. But now that you ask I would say that what people say in an unguarded moment is generally more truthful than what they say when people are calling them to account. You're not following it because CBC, CTV and CNN have no sexy sound bytes for you. If there was a Berkeley alum blowing snot bubbles and making a vague accusation of possibly attempted rape that's all you'd be talking about right now. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: You're not following it because CBC, CTV and CNN have no sexy sound bytes for you. If there was a Berkeley alum blowing snot bubbles and making a vague accusation of possibly attempted rape that's all you'd be talking about right now. On the contrary, I had nothing to say on the Kavanaugh nomination precisely because it was a he said/she said situation. UNTIL his angry outbursts showed that he didn't have the temperament to be a judge. You can check. It's still all there. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, Shady said: It’s funny to listen to Argus complain about a judge that if she were being sworn in on the Canadian Supreme Court, he’d love. But because TDS makes one oppose anything Trump, you get this nonsense. No, I would not love her being sworn in here. As I've already said, I'm not comfortable with extremely religious people being judges. Or extreme ideologues, for that matter. I don't think you should sit on the Supreme Court if law isn't the focus of your life. And if it is you don't really have a lot of time to be an activist or or ideologue or religious fundamentalist. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Argus said: On the contrary, I had nothing to say on the Kavanaugh nomination precisely because it was a he said/she said situation. UNTIL his angry outbursts showed that he didn't have the temperament to be a judge. You can check. It's still all there. Yeah, I'll give you credit because you weren't all-in like some others. Kavanaugh had no choice though. Bork played it cool and his name is an adverb now. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Democrat Barack Obama also appointed a Catholic...Justice Sonia Sotomayor. There's nothing wrong with appointing Catholics. There's something very odd about ONLY appointing Catholics in a country which is by far majority protestant. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Argus said: There's nothing wrong with appointing Catholics. There's something very odd about ONLY appointing Catholics in a country which is by far majority protestant. Are there no atheists in the USA? WTF? I don't feel like a minority in Canada as an atheist but globally I think I'm a 1%er. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Kamala didn't get where she is because of her achievements or anything that came out of her mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Argus said: There's nothing wrong with appointing Catholics. There's something very odd about ONLY appointing Catholics in a country which is by far majority protestant. So now it is just Catholics you find "odd" and not the Republicans appointing Catholics ? I find it odd that several Canadian provinces still have constitutional preferences for....Catholics. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: Are there no atheists in the USA? WTF? I don't feel like a minority in Canada as an atheist but globally I think I'm a 1%er. A quarter of Americans said 'none' when asked their religion on the last census (according to Bill Maher). He was bitching about how there's all these Catholics and no Athiests on the SC. But given the way things are down south, no one is going to appoint an atheist to the SC, or to any other important position. But you'd think there'd at least be lots of protestants. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So now it is just Catholics you find "odd" and not the Republicans appointing Catholics ? I find it odd how so much of your politics has been fixated on minor issues like abortion and gun control for the last thirty years. 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I find it odd that several Canadian provinces still have constitutional preferences for....Catholics. Holdovers from the BNA Act. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Argus said: I find it odd how so much of your politics has been fixated on minor issues like abortion and gun control for the last thirty years. Holdovers from the BNA Act. The majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices have not been Catholic...not even close. The political power of the religious right has succeeded in getting more Catholics on the court. "Elections have consequences" https://www.infoplease.com/biographies/government-politics/supreme-court I can't seem to easily find the religions of Canada's SC justices....no big surprise. Edited October 20, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 20, 2020 Report Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices have not been Catholic...not even close. The political power of the religious right has succeeded in getting more Catholics on the court. "Elections have consequences" https://www.infoplease.com/biographies/government-politics/supreme-court I can't seem to easily fine the religions of Canada's SC justices....no big surprise. https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/07/18/why-do-catholics-make-majority-supreme-court Before the death of Justice Ginsburg at age 87, the Supreme Court included five Catholic justices (Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor and Brett Kavanaugh) and three Jewish justices (Ms. Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan). The ninth justice, Neil Gorsuch, was raised Catholic but reportedly attends an Episcopal church. https://digitalcommons.osgoode.yorku.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2358&context=ohlj Page 75, 36% of ours are catholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) So that was a storm in a teacup. A lot of whining and wimpering ending in what must have been the lamest attempt at a filibuster on record, but ultimately this: Senate confirms Amy Coney Barrett to Supreme Court, cements 6-3 conservative majority Edited October 27, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 What none of the Trump cult is thinking about, because tiny minds don't have room for many thoughts, is how this has all damaged the supreme court and its aura of neutrality in the eyes of so many people. Back before McConnell removed the requirement for compromise - ie, the need for 60 votes in favor - people like her would never have even been nominated and people like Kavanaugh would never have won a vote. After a series of pro Republican votes on election issues, and if that continues, they will more and more be seen as mere extensions of the Republican, ie, Trump Party. This will lead to less respect for their decisions - and them. And when people and groups stop respecting the supreme court as neutral arbiters of law they will start to ignore their decisions. When people lack respect for the fairness or neutrality of law they tend to get violent. And I foresee a huge surge of political violence on the horizon in the US. I'm willing to be that, unlike in previous years SC judges, particularly ones like Kavanaugh and Barrett, will not be able to go anywhere without a squad of bodyguards around them. They will be seen as extreme partisans and will be despised by half the country. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Argus said: And I foresee a huge surge of political violence on the horizon in the US. Ooooh...scary. "Political violence" (against your empire) is how the U.S. got started in the first place. The U.S. Supreme Court's history is hardly pure and apolitical, so why expect that now ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Ooooh...scary. "Political violence" (against your empire) is how the U.S. got started in the first place. The U.S. Supreme Court's history is hardly pure and apolitical, so why expect that now ? That's why I don't think it should come as any kind of surprise if Biden adds a few if he has the power come 2021. Half a dozen should just about do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: That's why I don't think it should come as any kind of surprise if Biden adds a few if he has the power come 2021. Half a dozen should just about do it. Civil War results in many of these revenge scenarios...I'm guessing. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bcsapper said: That's why I don't think it should come as any kind of surprise if Biden adds a few if he has the power come 2021. Half a dozen should just about do it. It would depend on how the new SC acts. If they act like trained seals, taking their orders from Trump, and start ruling against Democratic legislation on things like health care - because Republicans believe health care is only for rich people - then I think Biden would be justified in appointing more judges. This assumes the new Republican SC doesn't find some excuse to keep Trump in power if the election is close. I mean, I think Kavanaugh, in particular, has made it fairly clear he despises Democrats and will always rule in favour of the Republican party. Edited October 27, 2020 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: That's why I don't think it should come as any kind of surprise if Biden adds a few if he has the power come 2021. Half a dozen should just about do it. Old news...and a failed strategy. FDR tried to do that too because the Supreme Court was throwing too much shade on his fascist agenda. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Civil War results in many of these revenge scenarios...I'm guessing. I suspect that's coming anyway. The two Americas are now moving further and further away from each other. They don't watch the same TV shows, don't get their news from the same sources, don't read the same newspapers, and, increasingly, don't live in the same places. Growing numbers of them don't want to hire, work with, date, befriend, or be around people of the other political persuasion. A Republican is getting an entirely different picture of what is happening and why than a Democrat. And those news sources are increasingly biased against the other side. Both sources are wrong, too, and care a lot less for truth and accuracy than in pushing their own political and ideological views. They've also found there's money to be made in making those views more extreme and hostile. And their impact can't be denied. Edited October 27, 2020 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Civil War results in many of these revenge scenarios...I'm guessing. I think it might happen anyway. People seem to be gearing up for a violent response to the election regardless of who wins, or looks like winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Old news...and a failed strategy. FDR tried to do that too because the Supreme Court was throwing too much shade on his fascist agenda. Term limits and age limits too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I think it might happen anyway. People seem to be gearing up for a violent response to the election regardless of who wins, or looks like winning. Gonna have to learn the hard way, eh? Perhaps true... WW1 seemed like a party at first...as did the original US Civil War. After a few years and piles of dead...less so. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, Argus said: I suspect that's coming anyway. This is where Democrats find-out if they're as well armed as the Republicans. I doubt it...but give it a shot. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, Argus said: I mean, I think Kavanaugh, in particular, has made it fairly clear he despises Democrats and will always rule in favour of the Republican party. Gosh...I wonder why? 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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