Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Quote 18 minutes ago, Scott Mayers said: Precisely. We are forced to pay for channels now where the channels get money from both sides. What's worse is that the 'medium' of this has zero accountability, has power to use our viewing information AND are then able to control which commercials we should see AT OUR EXPENSE! Again, the CRTC is permitting this because they are a 'culture' department first and foremost and a communications one secondarily. The power of media today, including CBC, is managed by some common powers in shared interest. I don't doubt it likely too that the shareholders of private media are consolidated and in favor of the management of CBC. Quote For broadcast stations, the CRTC presently requires that 60% yearly, and at least 50% of programming aired daily from 6:00 pm to midnight must be of Canadian origin.[15] In May 2011 the CanCon requirement for private television broadcasters was lowered to 55% yearly.[16] Canada's public broadcaster, CBC, must still maintain 60% CanCon quota. The CBC has accountability. The problem is no one cares about it except for the bottom line. Edited December 31, 2019 by Cannucklehead Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Lol spin doctors. When I say international it is because it is non Canadian, as was your point of home alone being american. American broadcasting is part of international broadcasting that cbc shows. I guess I need to draw it in crayon for Beavis and Butthead here. Home Alone being an American movie is news to no one, there is no need to bring it up. Canada does not need the CBC to show American movies to Canadian audiences. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 Canadian content quota's are for losers. Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Home Alone being an American movie is news to no one, there is no need to bring it up. Canada does not need the CBC to show American movies to Canadian audiences. Why not? Sure there are others movies that they can show, but that doesnt mean they should not be allowed to show american content too. Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Canadian content quota's are for losers. Yeah exactly. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Like I said earlier, the CBC broadcasts international programs. Until the americans move to mars or implode they are sadly still part of that group. Still wouldn't matter, as the CBC embeds links and content from American social media platforms into online news and entertainment content. Hell, the CRTC mandates carriage of American broadcast television networks by time zone (BDU 4 + 1 rule), ostensibly because Canadians "demand" American broadcast content. The fight over simsub Super Bowl ads has finally ended this year. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Why not? Sure there are others movies that they can show, but that doesnt mean they should not be allowed to show american content too. Because it's a waste of resources. The private sector already provides the same service. Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shady said: Because it's a waste of resources. The private sector already provides the same service. Oh ok. So then they should not show any movies or tv shows or news since private sectors provide the same service. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Why not? Sure there are others movies that they can show, but that doesnt mean they should not be allowed to show american content too. No one said they should be allowed to show it, I said we don't need them to show it, the CBC is not required to get American content to Canadian consumers. Quote
Shady Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said: Oh ok. So then they should not show any movies or tv shows or news since private sectors provide the same service. No they don’t. Some CBC programming is exclusive or not provided by the private sector. Hence what’s suppose to be the reason behind why CBC should exist. Are you being obtuse on purpose? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Oh ok. So then they should not show any movies or tv shows or news since private sectors provide the same service. They should not exist. The private sector can handle everything they do much better than they do it. Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: No one said they should be allowed to show it, I said we don't need them to show it, the CBC is not required to get American content to Canadian consumers. No, they arent. But like I said, they show stuff made from the world over. So really there are three choices here: 1: status quo 2: show content from the rest of the world except for american 3: Canadian content only I'm conflicted by two and three. I'm sure option two would really piss trump off. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: No, they arent. But like I said, they show stuff made from the world over. So really there are three choices here: 1: status quo 2: show content from the rest of the world except for american 3: Canadian content only I'm conflicted by two and three. I'm sure option two would really piss trump off. Option Four: Get rid of the CBC. Option Five: CBC stops editing movies to include more commercials when they already show too many commercials. I choose option four. Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Option Four: Get rid of the CBC. Not an option. Besides they'll just replace it with something else like PBS. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said: Not an option. Besides they'll just replace it with something else like PBS. Why would they replace it? There is no need to replace it, the private sector can do what they do, better than they can do it, and they don't need to be subsidized by taxpayers to do it. Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Why would they replace it? There is no need to replace it, the private sector can do what they do, better than they can do it, and they don't need to be subsidized by taxpayers to do it. Commercialized media leads to more foreign investors and less Canadian content. If that kept up we wouldn't have shows like the Murdoch Mysteries. I think of CBC as the line in the sand. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: Commercialized media leads to more foreign investors and less Canadian content. If that kept up we wouldn't have shows like the Murdoch Mysteries. I think of CBC as the line in the sand. Screw Canadian content. If the best content happens to be Canadian content, that's great, if not, showing substandard content just because it's Canadian is dumb. Nothing is stopping a private broadcaster from showing Canadian content, content quota's are stupid and you don't need taxpayer subsidization to show Canadian content. If Canadians don't want to consume Canadian content, that is not a problem, and it certainly doesn't justify the CBC's existence. Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
G-MAN Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Option Four: Get rid of the CBC. Option Five: CBC stops editing movies to include more commercials when they already show too many commercials. I choose option four. Option 4 Quote
Cannucklehead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 https://cmg.cloudhostedresources.com/?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmg.ca%2Fen%2F2015%2F06%2F10%2Fwhy-canada-needs-cbcradio-canada-now-more-than-ever-tony-burman%2F&width=412 The CBC he said, should “seek to reduce or eliminate mass audience American programming and reduce CBC’s dependence on advertising revenue.” And I loved his concluding line: “This refocused CBC will obviously have to be provided with stable, long term, public funding.” That was November 29, 2004. Stephen Harper. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said: And I loved his concluding line: “This refocused CBC will obviously have to be provided with stable, long term, public funding.” That was November 29, 2004. Stephen Harper. Stephen Harper is an idiot on this issue. Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
eyeball Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Shady said: There's a much Deeper issue involved. FIFY Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Now it all tends to be a propaganda arm of the Liberals. How on Earth did right-wing conservatives come to be such paranoid loons over the media in general and CBC in particular? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Yzermandius19 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: How on Earth did right-wing conservatives come to be such paranoid loons over the media in general and CBC in particular? They are more observant than lefties with a blind spot who see the CBC's form of bias as unbiased because they share their bias. Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They are more observant than lefties with a blind spot who see the CBC's form of bias as unbiased because they share their bias. Worked @ CBC Radio among others. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted December 31, 2019 Report Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They are more observant than lefties with a blind spot who see the CBC's form of bias as unbiased because they share their bias. But...how do you explain lefties that can see the bias but don't share it? Maybe what you need to do is to completely reassess what you believe or think you know about lefties. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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