Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 11 hours ago, PPC2019 said: They take thread drift way to seriously. What fun is always staying on topic? It allows for those people who want to talk ABOUT that topic to do so without paging through masses of vacuous comments about strippers and investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 hours ago, marcus said: There are all sorts of reasons why MacLean should not only have flinched, but pounced. How did Cherry know the people he saw walking around downtown Toronto and Mississauga without poppies were immigrants? Were they wearing signs? Or did they look a certain way and he, in his infinite wisdom, assumed that to be the case? According to Stats Canada 70% of visible minorities are immigrants and almost all the rest are their kids. If you're not white or native then it's 99% certain you're an immigrant or the child of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: This site is over-moderated . . .. . the ebb and flow of conversation is stifled. Time-outs, demerit points, deletions, e-mail conformations, constant chiding, etc. make this site a ponderous proposition. I disagree. It's lightened up considerably over the last year. And mostly the problem is people - and I can name them fairly easily since they're in my ignore list -- repeatedly going off on wild tandems that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, which screws up the conversation. You want to see over moderated go to reddit, where one wrong word or opinion will see you permanently banned from most political subgroups. Edited November 12, 2019 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Boges said: Don Cherry had the chance to apologize, he choose not to. Therefore he can be fired with cause. Saying "You People . . . Come Here to the Land of Milk and Honey" is clearly identifying immigrants, and therefore xenophobic. If he really wasn't singling out immigrants he could have clarified his statements. But he didn't. As noble as the Poppy is, it shouldn't be used a litmus test to how much you love Canada. Those people died for the freedom to wear the poppy, or not to. No it's not xenophobic. He's not saying that people shouldn't come here. That being said, it could've been said in a much better way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Boges said: Don Cherry had the chance to apologize, he choose not to. Therefore he can be fired with cause. Saying "You People . . . Come Here to the Land of Milk and Honey" is clearly identifying immigrants, and therefore xenophobic. Sorry but pointing out something about immigrants which we all know to be true is not xenophobic. The poppy is basically a symbol of our remembrance for our past and our ancestors, and our traditions. Immigrants clearly don't share any of that, and why would they? They didn't grow up with it, and today's schools only teach that Canada's history is the history of Nazis, racists and evil homophobes anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Boges said: Since we're talking about Snowflake Liberals. Here is the Royal Canadian Legion's response to the Cherry comments. Buncha Cucks. Of course they're going to say that. You think they want the lynching that would follow if they said anything otherwise? Come'on man, you're smarter than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Boges said: Your sensibilities aren't shared by the people Rogers are clearly courting. Who would that be? Immigrants who mostly don't watch hockey? Dainty, delicate latte sipping urban progressives who also don't watch hockey? I haven't seen an official poll yet but here are four I grabbed off a google search. None had anything like a majority who felt he should have been fired. Most were strongly against it. https://www.100milefreepress.net/web-poll/do-you-agree-with-sportsnet-firing-don-cherry/ https://www.coppernblue.com/2019/11/11/20960231/should-don-cherry-have-been-fired https://www.castanet.net/news/Poll/270277/Should-Don-Cherry-have-been-fired-for-poppy-comments https://www.baytoday.ca/polls/should-don-cherry-have-been-fired-14053 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, Boges said: Since we're talking about Snowflake Liberals. Here is the Royal Canadian Legion's response to the Cherry comments. Buncha Cucks. Boges, the majority of the RCL now are people with no military experience. Only a quarter of legion members have ever spent time in the military. I'm not a member so I'm a little foggy about how it came to be that way. But at some point they opened up to non-military people, and the people in charge, in particular, are not veterans. https://thewalrus.ca/why-royal-canadian-legion-halls-are-now-hipster-havens/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Shady said: No it's not xenophobic. He's not saying that people shouldn't come here. That being said, it could've been said in a much better way. Why should coming here as an immigrant make any difference of participating in the Poppy Tradition. He's the one who said dropped the "You People". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Argus said: Boges, the majority of the RCL now are people with no military experience. Only a quarter of legion members have ever spent time in the military. I'm not a member so I'm a little foggy about how it came to be that way. But at some point they opened up to non-military people, and the people in charge, in particular, are not veterans. https://thewalrus.ca/why-royal-canadian-legion-halls-are-now-hipster-havens/ Well it's their campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Why should coming here as an immigrant make any difference of participating in the Poppy Tradition. He's the one who said dropped the "You People". Nothing wrong with the phrase "you people", that phrase was just used in a non-bigoted in this very thread by someone claiming to want Cherry fired for saying the same thing. Enough of the racist angle, Cherry was criticizing immigrants who don't wear poppies, just like criticizes non-immigrants for not wearing poppies. Edited November 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Shady said: Of course they're going to say that. You think they want the lynching that would follow if they said anything otherwise? Come'on man, you're smarter than that. They could have said nothing. I really don't think even the "Cuck" Leftist Media would go after the Royal Canadian Legion on Remembrance Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Nothing wrong with the phrase you people, that phrase was just used in a non-bigoted in this very thread by someone claiming to want Cherry fired for saying the same thing. You people come here "You people … that come here, whatever it is, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey." He later clarified he was talking about everyone. Then why not apologize to his EMPLOYER!!!! that it's all just a misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, Argus said: That it doesn't exist in the minds of the urban leftists who swell the ranks of the national media is certainly beyond question. But these people are not Canada. They don't even know Canada. I guarantee you there are more people upset at him being fired than taking satisfaction in it. But you won't see them represented in the national media. Leaving aside poppies for a second, what about Cherry’s celebration of ice hockey hits and goons in an era where we know full well what happens to the brains of guys who do too much of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Leaving aside poppies for a second, what about Cherry’s celebration of ice hockey hits and goons in an era where we know full well what happens to the brains of guys who do too much of that? Cherry's style of Hockey isn't the one that's going to Grow the game in the face of Basketball and Soccer going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Boges said: You people come here "You people … that come here, whatever it is, you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey." He later clarified he was talking about everyone. Then why not apologize to his EMPLOYER!!!! that it's all just a misunderstanding. There is nothing to apologize for, it's they who should be apologizing to him, for calling firing him because some dummies called him a racist with no proof. Their crime is far worse than his by several orders of magnitude. Edited November 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Cherry's style of Hockey isn't the one that's going to Grow the game in the face of Basketball and Soccer going forward. He’s the perfect turn-off for parents thinking of a safe game for their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Boges said: Why should coming here as an immigrant make any difference of participating in the Poppy Tradition. He's the one who said dropped the "You People". It's not about wearing a poppy as much as appreciating why you have a better life. Appreciating the sacrifice of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: There is nothing to apologize for, it's they who should be apologizing to him, for calling him a racist for no reason. Their crime is far worse than his by several orders of magnitude. Cite where Sportsnet called him a racist? They said his comments were divisive. And sentiment echoed by the Royal Canadian Legion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Boges said: They could have said nothing. I really don't think even the "Cuck" Leftist Media would go after the Royal Canadian Legion on Remembrance Day. No they couldn't have said nothing. Ron McLean tried to say nothing, and look how that went. In cancel culture, silence is tantamount to guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Shady said: It's not about wearing a poppy as much as appreciating why you have a better life. Appreciating the sacrifice of others. And the Poppy is a poor litmus test of appreciation to the sacrifice of others. Also those people fought for the Freedom to wear the Poppy, or not to wear the Poppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Cite where Sportsnet called him a racist? They said his comments were divisive. And sentiment echoed by the Royal Canadian Legion. I said they fired him because a mob called him racist with no proof. The mob, Anheuser-Busch and Rogers all owe him an apology, for getting him fired because of oversensitive snowflakes freaking out over nothing, not the other way around. Edited November 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Shady said: No they couldn't have said nothing. Ron McLean tried to say nothing, and look how that went. In cancel culture, silence is tantamount to guilt. As mentioned earlier, McLean usually does say something when Cherry says something idiotic. This one slipped past him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Boges said: And the Poppy is a poor litmus test of appreciation to the sacrifice of others. Also those people fought for the Freedom to wear the Poppy, or not to wear the Poppy. Indeed. Focus on that part of the argument, not the race angle, that's the worst argument, just drop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: I said they fired him because a mob called him racist with no proof. No Proof? His comments are his comments. Also in the Sportsnet statement they came to the conclusion to fire him after further discussions with Cherry. Obviously Cherry was given a chance to explain himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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