Is Justin Trudeau the most divisive PM in history?

[Argus]

I admit to not being a history student. I can't say much for olden times prime ministers. But I think I can say without reservation that Justin Trudeau is more divisive than any PM we've had since at least Mackenzie King. He constantly sets one group against another, be it men against women, secularists against Christians, black against white, natives against 'settlers', Central Canada against the West, urban against rural, Quebec against TROC,  Immigrants and 'old stock', and most definitely, progressives and everyone else who doesn't accept their bullshit beliefs.

I don't think there's any question this country is more divided than it was when he took power, and that hostility and suspicions between and among all these groups are greater than they were, and will unquestionably get worse should he be re-elected, as seems likely.

For someone who spends so much time emoting on his personal views and feelings, Justin Trudeau seems to have astoundingly little sense of himself.

How else to explain his confession that his great regret as prime minister is the divisiveness that has split the country into warring regions since he took office four years ago.

“One of the things we were most focused on in 2015, after 10 years of a government that played regional politics, pitting Canadians against Canadians, was to bring Canadians together … Yet we find ourselves more polarized, more divided in this election than in 2015,” he said. “I wonder how, or if, I could have made sure we were pulling Canadians together?”

Well, yes, sure … you certainly could have worked to ensure we were pulling together. But that would have required abandoning the strategy that treats all viewpoints that conflict with Liberal orthodoxy as the work of inferiors, idiots, malcontents or the uninformed. It would have meant suggesting to chief guru Gerald Butts that he stop tweeting raging insults about everyone holding beliefs that aren’t in line with Liberal policy pronouncements. It would have meant accepting that Canadians can hold a wide variety of opinions without being scorned as unCanadian.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/election-2019/kelly-mcparland-trudeau-is-blind-to-his-own-divisive-politics

Edited October 18, 2019 by Argus

[Cannucklehead]

I liked his father.  Good politician.  His brother was alright too, but he died.  

 

Liberals today are too busy looking to be "politically correct".   I am so sick of all that garbage.  Its come to the point where you cant even say anything to anyone because they get offended about whatever.  That mentality belongs in urban centres, not suburbs or rural.  

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, Cannucklehead said:

Liberals today are too busy looking to be 'politically correct'.   I am so sick of all that garbage.  Its come to the point where you cant even say anything to anyone because they get offended about whatever.  That mentality belongs in urban centres, not suburbs or rural.  

Everybody is a f'n victim these days.  We've become a society of pussies.  Does anyone have a thick skin anymore?  

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Everybody is a f'n victim these days.  We've become a society of pussies.  Does anyone have a thick skin anymore?  

Dunno. I come from a time when men didn't cry in public for any reason. Now we got this guy who seems to cry constantly and he somehow still has tons of fans.

[-TSS-]

He is internationally well-known. Knowing who is the PM of Canada is not part of general knowledge but everyone knows Justin Trudeau. Most people outside Canada have never heard of the alternatives to JT.

[Nefarious Banana]

Well known as a liar, a groper, a speaker of nonsense, as an embarrassment to the Canadian citizens . . . . the list is long.  Yeah, he's well known all right.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

He is internationally well-known. Knowing who is the PM of Canada is not part of general knowledge but everyone knows Justin Trudeau. Most people outside Canada have never heard of the alternatives to JT.

That's because only complete lightweights run for office, nobody who is a serious person bothers with politics, it's only losers who need to be cronies, heavy hitters can make money and save themselves the annoyance of being involved in shambolic Canadian governance.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Well known as a liar, a groper, a speaker of nonsense, as an embarrassment to the Canadian citizens . . . . the list is long.  Yeah, he's well known all right.

Seat projections still putting him in majority territory, 171-187

170 is a majority.

[OftenWrong]

After his academy performance today, giving away all sorts of free goodies to people to vote for him, those numbers will go up. CBC gave him full air time of course. I thought I was watching Monty Hall on "Let's Make a Deal"!

[Dougie93]

They're not even going to get much in terms of goodies, praising the government for promising goodies has simply become a form of virtue signalling in of itself.

[Cannucklehead]

That's from the first page in the politicians playbook.  Sadly some people still fall for it.  

[Dougie93]

The issue is not so much spending, but the total absence of priorities.

Everybody has a sob story, so everybody has to get a hand out, but as a result it gets spread so thin, that nobody gets enough to make any difference.

Then they blame those  bad conservatives somehow.

[Dougie93]

It's like they truck these naive Millenials out on the CBC to be Face to Face with the politicians  to ask questions.

Being bubble raised Millenials they all ask the same basic question;

"When do I get my cheque from National Helicopter Mommy?"

To which the politicians say; we already sent the cheque, didn't you get your cheque in the mail?

"But that was a cheque for a hundred bucks, I need ten thousand bucks!"

[Dougie93]

 

[Cannucklehead]

Lol campaign ads are still up.  Maybe in four years Dougie.  

 

They do it by subverting and challenging symbols of national unity: the flag, the anthem, holidays and public statuary, even the military if it comes to that. When it comes to “Wexit” I am not even so much scornful of the practicalities as I am skeptical of the underlying mentality: until I see an Alberta hockey crowd boo “O Canada” I think we will go on pleading futilely for more “conversation” in the national agora.

Edited October 23, 2019 by Cannucklehead

[Dougie93]

Alberta is not going to separate, inevitable Quebec separation will simply render the Confederation moot.  I just like the Anti-Canadian sentiment. 

[Jimwd]

On 10/18/2019 at 2:19 PM, Cannucklehead said:

I liked his father.  Good politician.  His brother was alright too, but he died.  

 

Liberals today are too busy looking to be "politically correct".   I am so sick of all that garbage.  Its come to the point where you cant even say anything to anyone because they get offended about whatever.  That mentality belongs in urban centres, not suburbs or rural.  

Wow..talk about being a victim. You poor guy.

[Cannucklehead]

16 minutes ago, Jimwd said:

Wow..talk about being a victim. You poor guy.

Yeah it's tough, but I'm the type that can pass nails through my digestive system.  I'll live.  

[taxme]

On 10/18/2019 at 6:26 PM, OftenWrong said:

After his academy performance today, giving away all sorts of free goodies to people to vote for him, those numbers will go up. CBC gave him full air time of course. I thought I was watching Monty Hall on "Let's Make a Deal"!

Canada has become a Monty Hall "let's make a deal" country. Trudeau will surely get the ethnic vote, and he no doubt has, in this past election. After all, when some guy like Trudeau lets you come to Canada legal or illegally, by the hundreds of thousands every year, you may just get their votes. All one needs to do to become a Canadian citizen is to live in Canada for three years. What a deal, only three years. Cheap citizenship let's make a deal game. Another four more years of Trudeau and those that have come to Canada in the next four years will be citizens of Canada, and no doubt that they will be thanking and voting for Trudeau.

By then, if the conservatives think that they have a chance of ever winning an election ever again, well they can keep on dreaming, because it may never happen. Thanks to "conservative" Harper he had a golden chance to change our sick and pathetic immigration policy and system, and typical of conservatives like Harper, Harper did nothing about it. Harper just added to the immigration mess. There can be no doubt about it now that the British/European people of Canada will become a minority in their own homeland in another two decades. Conservatism will go the way of the dodo bird. Canada will truly become a socialist country where conservatism will be put to pasture for good. The good old days of Canada will be gone, and is now being replaced by too many other foreign non-British/European cultures and languages and religions to be able to change it and be able to save old Canada now. Our futures are now in foreign hands, and Trudeau will make sure that it happens that way. It is said that with Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister, who both want to flood Canada with more non British/European foreigners in the next three years with a million new immigrants from you know where who will have no love for our British/European ways of life and culture people. They will come here for economic reasons only, and not to try and save our British/European traditions. So long old Canada, it's been good to know you. 

[taxme]

On 10/23/2019 at 3:24 PM, Dougie93 said:

Alberta is not going to separate, inevitable Quebec separation will simply render the Confederation moot.  I just like the Anti-Canadian sentiment. 

Alberta will never separate. The Alberta people are just your typical apathetic and naive Canadians who do a lot of talking but will never do any of the walking. They will be convinced by Ottawa politicians and the Canadian leftist media that separation will be bad for them, and that will shut them up about wanting to separate. Alberta will continue to get shafted by the french in Ottawa and Quebec, and will take it all lying down. Alberta will not be going anywhere anytime soon. I am starting to have a lot of anti-Canadian sentiment now thanks to the fools that put that crook and liar and thief back in power for another four more years. This has to tell us all that most Canadians are stunned people. What else can one come up with? 

Young and old man Trudeau were/are very divisive politicians for Canada, and who both set out to destroy our British/European culture and traditions and have done a great job so far. Another four more years of Trudeau and the job will be completed. The people have Canada have given Trudeau the hang mans noose that Trudeau will be forced to do gladly and wrap around their stupid Canadian necks very soon. It's unbelievable as to what those fools have done. But when did most of them ever care about Canada anyway. Not a hell of a lot by the looks of things. Quebec will never separate from Canada, and why would they? They have it great now running and shafting the rest of Canada every day. Bloody sad indeed. 

[taxme]

On 10/23/2019 at 3:41 PM, Jimwd said:

Wow..talk about being a victim. You poor guy.

All Canadians in Canada are victims today thanks to the recent election. They have put the noose around their necks that the likes of Trudeau will gladly tighten every day from now on. Canadians will have to reap and live with what they have sown. It seems like most Canadians prefer to grow bad crops than good crops. It's the Canadian thing to do, I guess.  

[WestCanMan]

Sheila Copps, from Twitter:

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 Their claim of ‘Western Alienation’ should be seen for what it is, Regional alienation.

OK, so it's just "regional alienation". That's, liiike, tots ok, right?

Copps, again:

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The country is not divided. Two provinces are offside. The rest are ready to make this minority work. Let’s not fall into the Jason Kenney trap.

Two entire provinces is a lot, isn't it? Yeah, how about if the rest make it work and two provinces leave. OK by me. Me be gone with them.

[SpankyMcFarland]

We live in more divided times. People live to be outraged now. Trudeau has failed on  pipelines but if it was so easy to do Harper would have solved the problem in the decade he was given at the top. 

[OftenWrong]

On 10/31/2019 at 4:18 PM, taxme said:

Canada has become a Monty Hall "let's make a deal" country. 

Thanks to "conservative" Harper he had a golden chance to change our sick and pathetic immigration policy and system, and typical of conservatives like Harper, Harper did nothing about it. Harper just added to the immigration mess.

Conservatism will go the way of the dodo bird.

Canada will truly become a socialist country where conservatism will be put to pasture for good. The good old days of Canada will be gone, and is now being replaced by too many other foreign non-British/European cultures and languages and religions to be able to change it and be able to save old Canada now. Our futures are now in foreign hands, and Trudeau will make sure that it happens that way.

It is said that with Trudeau and his Somali immigration minister, who both want to flood Canada with more non British/European foreigners in the next three years with a million new immigrants from you know where who will have no love for our British/European ways of life and culture people. They will come here for economic reasons only, and not to try and save our British/European traditions. So long old Canada, it's been good to know you. 

Yes I know. It's a pity. The world is changing alright but the fight is not over. What Winston Churchill said. We shall fight them in the fields and in the trenches. And in the hills and valleys, and in the streets. Use hand to hand combat, kitchen utensils, anything you can to fight them. We shall not go gently into that long good night my friends. Not with a whimper, but a bang!

Donald Trump might win again, and he is doing some revolutionary things in terms of immigration policy. His ideas give clarification on what is important what is fair for immigration, and what is not fair. Already around the world we see that these progressive immigration ideas are not working, they create problems and in some cases the countries are downgrading their commitment to bring in large volumes of economic immigrants. So the idea is already outdated. Canada is lagging behind as usual because we are a stupid populace who don't know what the hell is going on, just respond to whatever BS we are told.

Edited November 2, 2019 by OftenWrong
cleaned up foul language

[taxme]

3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Yes I know. It's a pity. The world is changing alright but the fight is not over. What Winston Churchill said. We shall fight them in the fields and in the trenches. And in the hills and valleys, and in the streets. Use hand to hand combat, kitchen utensils, anything you can to fight them. We shall not go gently into that long good night my friends. Not with a whimper, but a bang!

Donald Trump might win again, and he is doing some revolutionary things in terms of immigration policy. His ideas give clarification on what is important what is fair for immigration, and what is not fair. Already around the world we see that these progressive immigration ideas are not working, they create problems and in some cases the countries are downgrading their commitment to bring in large volumes of economic immigrants. So the idea is already outdated. Canada is lagging behind as usual because we are a stupid populace who don't know what the hell is going on, just respond to whatever BS we are told.

I believe that Churchill was referring to the 2nd WW because it is obviously he was not talking about the Britain that we see today. Britain is having a massive immigration problem just like so many other Western countries in the world are having where massive non British/European immigration has been happening and been going on for several decades now. One day, all those fighting back methods you mentioned above may have to be used one day in all of the Western countries to try and preserve and save our ways of life and values and traditions. 

At least Trump is trying to do something about immigration where our again dear leader for another four more years along with his Somali immigration minister who could careless about our Western country called Canada will be trying to bring in another one million, I say one million, more legal and illegal refugees into Canada in the next three years. This is madness gone wild.

Where are they all going to go? What kinds of damage will be done to the environment, our infrastructures, our medical and social services, and the wildlife that some members here are so concerned about? We are told that more immigration is needed and will be good and great for Canada. The problem is, where and how can this be so? The more the population in Canada grows, more tax dollars will be needed, and more problems will be created. As someone said one time? "It's immigration 101, stupid". Wanting more immigration for Canada "IS" stupid. But by the looks of things now, get ready to look after and take care of more foreign refugees who are going to come to Canada by the millions and pretty much bleed us dry of our tax dollars.

Trudeau was elected by the sheeple who apparently do not care all that much about Canada anymore, and they and their children and grandchildren are going to pay a big heavy time price for their ignorance and foolishness. But hey, what more can be said, eh? Welcome to the new Canada. Enjoy.