Liberals encouraging white supremacists

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Straight outta the terrorists handbook - lie, intimidate, accuse, misdirect and misinform.  She's learned well.  She's a good little dhimmi.

Never the less, she wouldn't be a terrorist unless and until she chose to resort to paramilitary force outside the bounds of national and international law and the laws of armed conflict.

 

[dialamah]

42 minutes ago, Shady said:

It's hard to condemn something that you don't acknowledge is a problem.

Islamic extremism isn't a problem in Canada, any more then right-wing extremism is.   It's a huge problem in the Middle East,  and has caused problems in Europe. 

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

You think every loser who can't get a girl is right wing?

Of course not, what kind of stupid straw man is that?  We're talking about extremists and killers here.  

It's not just me and the head CSIS guy who put incels on the right of the political spectrum.

What do Fascists, Incels and Terrorists Have in Common?  

Australian academics Lucy Nicholas and Christine Agius have written about how “involuntary celibates” and members of other, related subcultures find ways to “argue for men’s greater oppression, and justify male violence”. They show how contemporary “masculinism” is an explicit reaction to the gains of feminists, LGBTQ people, and others challenging white male supremacy, and how it is tied to right wing populism.

A more scholarly discussion of incels:

Aggrieved entitlement is the term for this phenomenon, in which a usually privileged group is partially denied their expected privileges. Involuntarily celibate men are a prime example of this, as well as white supremacists believing white Americans should take “their” country back.  Incels and MRAs, though echoing right-wing sentiments, believe they are resisting the mainstream of liberal feminism.

Edited August 15, 2019 by dialamah

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Besides which, the propaganda wasn't all wrong. The Japanese soldiers at the time were brutal barbarians by most everyone else's standards, and fanatical. Like Muslims, they cut peoples heads off with swords with a fair degree of comfort. And they didn't mind raping, either, did it in a very organized fashion, in fact. Just ask the Koreans.

And yet, here we are, a couple generations later, with "barbaric" Japanese living quietly among us, obeying laws, working hard, embracing our progressive culture. 

Thanks for making my point for me.

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

We've been over this. The Ministry of Public Safety is politicized and pursues the Liberal party agenda. Nothing they say can be accepted at face value.

Such a handy way of ignoring information you dislike - it's a conspiracy to mislead us!  But why?  Because Liberal!  

How about some actual counter-argument and not some partisan opinion about information you just don't like?

[dialamah]

49 minutes ago, Goddess said:

She follows people around the board, baiting them with comments like she's done on this thread

Wow, I comment on lots of topics, but you only show up to dogpile with the other anti-Muslim folk if I happen to bring up Muslims or Islam.  Looks to me like you're the one "following people around on the board" to

52 minutes ago, Goddess said:

intimidate by lying and accusing them of being violent haters against Islamophobes - all the while poo-pooing and making excuses for every right-wing, Islamophobic atrocity being done in the world today.

There hasn't been one thing done in the name of Islamophobia that she hasn't justified, excused or downplayed.  When that doesn't work, she resorts to lying accusations.

Straight outta the terrorists handbook - lie, intimidate, accuse, misdirect and misinform

 

[Dougie93]

I think the White Supremacists are going to win this war,  the Progressives will become the hunted in the end, they are ripe for subjugation as the Wiemar Republic was.

The Progressives will naively construct the totalitarian state, then it will be turned against them.

It's like Allende and Pinochet.

At first they were ostensible allies, at first Allende believed that Pinochet was his man, that he could control Pinochet, too late did Allende see how naive this was of course, and that's how it always goes with these lefty dingbats, if Stalin doesn't get them,  Pinochet surely will.

Edited August 15, 2019 by Dougie93

[dialamah]

28 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The Progressives will naively construct the totalitarian state, then it will be turned against them.

Whadd'ya mean naive??? I read regularly on here how leftists rule the media and conspire to hide from Canadians all kinds of truths. Our conspiracy is so vast that we're able to persuade millions of academics, researchers, scientists and government officials to support the climate change hoax, racism hoax, white supremacy hoax, Islam/Muslim hoax, transgender hoax and various poor people hoaxes - all to stymie conservative agenda of saving the world through lower taxes and making sure nobody gets any kind of undeserved help.

Progressives got the smarts and the power.  The rest of ya got nothin'.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Whadd'ya mean naive??? I read regularly on here how leftists rule the media and conspire to hide from Canadians all kinds of truths. Our conspiracy is so vast that we're able to persuade millions of academics, researchers, scientists and government officials to support the climate change hoax, racism hoax, white supremacy hoax, Islam/Muslim hoax, transgender hoax and various poor people hoaxes - all to stymie conservative agenda of saving the world through lower taxes and making sure nobody gets any kind of undeserved help.

Progressives got the smarts and the power.  The rest of ya got nothin'.

Yes, Germany was the most progressive country on earth at one point too, and yet a tiny cohort of right wing extremists were able to seize control, thus is how it went in Russia too, the Bolsheviks didn't see Stalin coming neither, so full of their smarts and power, and yet shot just as easily as the next schmo.

[WestCanMan]

It's shocking to see how people can fall victim to propaganda to the point where they just believe something is true even after it has been proven wrong, well beyond a shadow of doubt.

Right now the Dems in the States and the Liberals in Canada are taking a beating on policy and performance issues so they're turning to racial division for votes. It's pathetic. They've invented the great white bogeyman to scare part of the population into voting for them, and to shame the rest into voting for them.

I just never see or hear people talking about coloured folks being a problem, ever. Whiteness and colour is not a factor with conservative voters anywhere in North America. Liberals and Democrats are constantly bringing race into every discussion and their divisiveness is taking a huge toll on the overall level of public discourse.

Thank god that Americans rejected the hate in their 2016 election. It's time for Canadians to step up and get rid of the corrupt, divisive, hateful Liberals. 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's shocking to see how people can fall victim to propaganda to the point where they just believe something is true even after it has been proven wrong, well beyond a shadow of doubt.

 

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

Is that your pacman emoji?

mange, mange, mange

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Is that your pacman emoji?

No I'm laughing at listening to you describe your own behaviour to a tee. T as in tone-deaf.

Edited August 15, 2019 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I'm laughing at listening to you describe your own behaviour to a tee. T as in tone-deaf.

Yeah, that's such a thing.

I'm like that guy who says 0+0>2. Oh no wait, that was a liberal, in this thread, just a few minutes ago. 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm like that guy who says 0+0>2. Oh no wait, that was a liberal, in this thread, just a few minutes ago. 

No you're more like this lying sack of shit

.

 

Show me where and you can prove you're not a liar after all.

 

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

You all need to lighten up.  

 

I do not like the tone that is developing.  I am temporarily locking this thread so that you all can cool down.  It will re-open later.  

 

There is some very good discussion in this thread amid childish aggression. 

[Argus]

One of the problems in the Liberals efforts at painting everyone to their right as a Nazi or Alt-right is that people come to disregard the term completely. After all, if everyone is a Nazi then no one is a Nazi, right? But the given their flawed term in office, the Liberals seem determined to run on a fear campaign.

Back in February, 2018, long before he was sidelined by an unrelated political scandal, Butts set off a firestorm when he Tweeted that “the lesson to take” from a British alt-right conspiracy theorist who had mocked Trudeau for his political correctness was that “nazi friends of the Rebel [a fringe Canadian alt-right media outlet]” are “paying attention. Game on, #TeamTrudeau.” The context for this was a well-publicized episode in which Trudeau had tut-tutted the sexism of a woman who had used the word “mankind” in a public forum (Trudeau jokingly suggested that “peoplekind” would have been more appropriate)—a spectacle that had attracted derision from all corners. Yet, ludicrously, Trudeau’s chief lieutenant was suggesting that this mocking reaction somehow was a symptom of the “Nazi” menace, which Canadians could fight back by supporting “#TeamTrudeau.” (Celebrity journalist Piers Morgan joined the fray by telling Butts on Twitter, “I’m not a Nazi,” and “if you’re one of @JustinTrudeau’s chief advisors, no wonder he’s making so many gaffes.” Morgan’s statement proved prophetic and the gaffes continued.)

In large part, the Liberal strategy has played on the language slippage that now marks all forms of political dialogue on social media: To be conservative, even slightly so, is to be right wing. To be right wing is to be alt-right (never mind that the decade-old term specifically relates to a xenophobic, bigoted strain of conservatism that has little to no mainstream influence in Canada). To be alt-right is to be extremist. And to be extremist is to be a Nazi. By this sort of rhetorical daisy chain can the laziest slur against any Canadian conservative be grossed up into the suggestion that we are on the verge of some kind of nationwide Kristallnacht.

https://quillette.com/2019/08/13/trudeaus-shameful-gambit-smearing-conservative-opponents-as-neo-nazis/

[marcus]

On 8/15/2019 at 12:18 PM, Argus said:

Oh good, another progressive pushing the white supremacy theme! Names and numbers please. Where are these white supremacists hiding? Or is it just that anyone who opposes mass immigration is 'white supremacist'?

When you announce, you: "don't want any more goat herders to move to Canada." or you clearly announce that you "want Europeans to move to Canada, over the others", then guess what you are not doing: Hiding your racism and bigotry.

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

When you announce, you: "don't want any more goat herders to move to Canada." or you clearly announce that you "want Europeans to move to Canada, over the others", then guess what you are not doing: Hiding your racism and bigotry.

What makes you think that a large group of people only want more European immigrants because of their race?

Is your imagination really so limited you can't possibly think of any rational reasons why someone might have that preference that have nothing to do with race?

Edited August 19, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[marcus]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

What makes you think that a large group of people only want more European immigrants because of their race?

Is your imagination really so limited you can't possibly think of any rational reasons why someone might have that preference that have nothing to do with race?

You tell me where your imagination takes you when you hear someone refer to a group of people as "goat herders moving to our country".

Edited August 19, 2019 by marcus

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

What makes you think that a large group of people only want more European immigrants because of their race?

Is your imagination really so limited you can't possibly think of any rational reasons why someone might have that preference that have nothing to do with race?

I wouldn't even want to load up on white Europeans, they're mostly socialist nanny staters who would end up in the ranks of the NDP and Green Party.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, marcus said:

You tell me where your imagination takes you when someone refers to a group of people "goat herders".

There is not as much crossover between the two opinions as you think there is, and you are writing off opinions that have nothing to do with race as being racist because of it.

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I wouldn't even want to load up on white Europeans, they're mostly socialist nanny staters who would end up in the ranks of the NDP and Green Party.

I know, I'd load up on the Hong Kong Chinese, simply pointing out that those who do want more European immigrants don't necessarily believe that because racism. There are in fact plenty of reasons someone could want more immigrants from a particular region, that have literally nothing to do with race.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[marcus]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

There is not as much crossover between the two opinions as you think there is, and you are writing off opinions that have nothing to do with race as being racist because of it.

To me, racism extends to more than the 6 races defined in the old books. To me, racism stems from ignorance and a false sense of superiority. This is how you get people like Argus referring to a group of people as "goat herders". What is his point in calling them "goat herders"? Do you think it's to start a healthy conversation? Or do you think it could be something else?

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, marcus said:

To me, racism extends to more than the 6 races defined in the old books. To me, racism stems from ignorance and a false sense of superiority.

That's not racism, you're going to need another term.

Ignorance and a false sense of superiority, very often, have nothing to do with race. I find your attempted mind reading of racist motivations to be amateurish, at best.

Stop conflating these things, as if they are completely interchangeable words that mean the same thing, they don't.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Yzermandius19