-TSS- Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Biden may have difficulties forming his cabinet; isn't it the Senate which has to endorse every cabinet-member? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: And 2004...2000...1996...1992, etc. So it is was not 2020...thanks for playing ! No 2008 was a turning point and the real start of the “not my president” game. Heck Mitch McConnell and Republican House Speaker John Boener even held a press conference to publicly pledge that they would not cooperate with Obama and would actively obstruct him on every issue and initiative, even the ones they agree with Said McConnell: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president”. That had never happened before in recent history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Anyone who thinks the Democrats engaged in widespread voter fraud should have their heads examined. I'm not saying Biden is the most noble politician in history, but he's not Donald Trump. Donald Trump has spent his life cheating at everything he thought he could get away with. According to virtually everyone who knew him at any point in time, he cheated to get into college. He cheated on his wives. He cheated his suppliers and his investors. He cheated those who bought condos from him. He cheated on his taxes. He cheated his employees. According to everyone who has ever spoken about him, Trump has no morals, ethics or values and will do anything he thinks benefits him, regardless of what the law or rules say, if he thinks he can get away with it. Which means that if anyone was going to engage in widespread voter fraud in this election it was Donald Trump, and the grifters and con-men he's surrounded himself with. He's the president, and he's got a whole pack of cult members willing to do almost anything on his behalf. Yet despite him braying about the Democrats cheating as far back as several months ago, we're supposed to believe he never made any attempt to cheat himself? That he's somehow become virtuous and noble and deeply respectful of the rules and laws? I don't bloody think so! He all but invited Russia to help him win. So anyone who buys his whiny rants needs psychiatric help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: Biden may have difficulties forming his cabinet; isn't it the Senate which has to endorse every cabinet-member? If that's the case, do you think they'll take their ball and go home? That'll show them in a good light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, -TSS- said: Biden may have difficulties forming his cabinet; isn't it the Senate which has to endorse every cabinet-member? Doubt it will be an issue. As of now the Democrats have 47 seats. There are two independents. And at least a couple of Republican senators have said he should be able to choose the cabinet he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: That had never happened before in recent history. It has happened many times in U.S. history....it is the goal of any opposition party by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Argus said: Anyone who thinks the Democrats engaged in widespread voter fraud should have their heads examined. I'm not saying Biden is the most noble politician in history, but he's not Donald Trump. Donald Trump has spent his life cheating at everything he thought he could get away with. So voter fraud is OK as long as it is not "widespread" ? Canadian illegals voting in elections is to be tolerated ? Clinton's "whining" about voter suppression in 2016 is the opposite side of the same coin. Donald Trump has not been a politician for 47 years....like Joe Biden. Guess who knows more about election fraud ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The shooting started in 2016.... "NOT MY PRESIDENT !!!" "RESIST !!!" "OBSTRUCT !!!" "IMPEACH !!!" So you went from that to this: And 2004...2000...1996...1992, etc. So it is was not 2020...thanks for playing ! ...It has happened many times in U.S. history....it is the goal of any opposition party by definition. What kind of truck do you use when you move the goalposts so quickly? Edited November 7, 2020 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So voter fraud is OK as long as it is not "widespread" ? Never even suggested that. Nice dumb strawman. But so far there's no evidence of ANY voter fraud. And it's you guys who say there is widespread voter fraud. So prove it. Let's see the evidence of all the voter fraud across multiple states. Let's see the explanation of why only the Democrats would do it, and a party known for embracing Qanon conspiracies, led by a man with no morals, and with people like Steven Miller on his team wouldn't consider engaging in their own voter fraud? Quote Donald Trump has not been a politician for 47 years....like Joe Biden. Guess who knows more about election fraud ? Donald Trump has been a liar and a cheater all his life, unlike Joe Biden. Guess who knows more about cheating and fraud? Edited November 7, 2020 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: What kind of truck do you use when you move the goalposts so quickly? It was your goalpost placed incorrectly in the history of U.S. elections. Nothing special about Obama, Trump, or Biden....or any other U.S. president. The "shooting" goes back more than 100 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Never even suggested that. Nice dumb strawman. But so far there's no evidence of ANY voter fraud. And it's you guys who say there is widespread voter fraud. So prove it. No, you qualified your statement with "widespread", which obviously leaves the door open to some voter fraud. I didn't claim anything....voter fraud is a fact in every election, including that from Canadian illegals. Quote Donald Trump has been a liar and a cheater all his life, unlike Joe Biden. Guess who knows more about cheating and fraud? Joe Biden...he is older than Trump. Edited November 7, 2020 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It was your goalpost placed incorrectly in the history of U.S. elections. Nothing special about Obama, Trump, or Biden....or any other U.S. president. The "shooting" goes back more than 100 years. No no you said it started in 2016. It’s right there in your post. By the way I meant literally shooting people with firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, you qualified your statement with "widespread", which obviously leaves the door open to some voter fraud. Your glorious Trump is the one saying there's widespread fraud. So show it! 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Joe Biden...he is older than Trump. Joe Biden wasn't sent to military school when he was a kid because his father decided he was unmanageable. Joe Biden isn't known for having no sense of honor or loyalty or empathy. Joe Biden doesn't have a lifelong history of cheating at everything he can. That's your boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Argus said: But so far there's no evidence of ANY voter fraud. And it's you guys who say there is widespread voter fraud. So prove it. Let's see the evidence of all the voter fraud across multiple states. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud If you'd like to see something even more recent try here: https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/profile/1123-shady/?status=15662&type=status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud If you'd like to see something even more recent try here: https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/profile/1123-shady/?status=15662&type=status A republican lawyer on CNN just said you're wrong. Do you think they have his family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) See now why I collected all that pre-election evidence of voter fraud privately Betsy? These guys are nothing if not predictable. Now all they have to respond with is snide and smug in front of nothing. Edited November 7, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hopefully Trump doesn't get up to anything stupid during these 11 weeks he is a lame duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: See now why I collected all that pre-election evidence of voter fraud privately Betsy? These guys are nothing if not predictable. Now all they have to respond with is snide and smug in front of nothing. Sorry. A republican lawyer on CNN just said you're wrong. Do you think they have his family he was wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Hopefully Trump doesn't get up to anything stupid during these 11 weeks he is a lame duck. It is going to be an entertaining few weeks, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud If you'd like to see something even more recent try here: https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/profile/1123-shady/?status=15662&type=status The first link ...if the numbers are even to be trusted....says there have been only 1,298 “proven cases” (and a smaller number of actual convictions) sine 1979! What do you think you’re proving here? Do you think you’re making some point just bebecause the alleged number in the last 40 years is a “non-zero number”? Your second link is a link to Shady’s profile... what’s that about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud If you'd like to see something even more recent try here: https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/profile/1123-shady/?status=15662&type=status So nothing recent and nothing proven. Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Hopefully Trump doesn't get up to anything stupid during these 11 weeks he is a lame duck. Trump got up to stupid stuff his entire term in office. Why would he stop now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Argus said: Trump got up to stupid stuff his entire term in office. Why would he stop now? I think we're about to see spite enter into it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: By the way I meant literally shooting people with firearms. So do I....several U.S. presidents have been shot with firearms...some even died...oh my ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Argus said: Joe Biden wasn't sent to military school when he was a kid because his father decided he was unmanageable. Joe Biden isn't known for having no sense of honor or loyalty or empathy. Joe Biden doesn't have a lifelong history of cheating at everything he can. Joe Biden lost two previous presidential runs partially due to his cheating and lying. Trump won on his first try.....Trump is #45...Biden would be #46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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