eyeball Posted May 23, 2019 Report Posted May 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: When you can do that you'll find that you have literally nothing in common with people who watch CNN or CTV. Your skin should crawl when someone on CNN says that Dr Ford's allegations were "credible", or when you hear CTV say that our Lib gov't needs to regulate social media because, among other things, " there's too much misinformation about SNC Lavalin". Why do you keep bringing up shit that has literally nothing to do with buttressing your's or Oftenwrong's definitions of globalization? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted May 23, 2019 Report Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Yes, well that would include not changing very very widely accepted definitions of terms and words like globalization. This coming from the fellow who's uttering unsubstantiated disingenuous absurdities about globalization. What's insulting is your expectation that these absurdities should be taken as serious appropriate counter-points, especially in a thread that's inquiring into Trump's ignorance. It's not my fault you morons painted yourself into this stupid corner. Right. So what was it exactly that you so vehemently disagree with? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted May 23, 2019 Report Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Why do you keep bringing up shit that has literally nothing to do with buttressing your's or Oftenwrong's definitions of globalization? You seem to think that you're really onto something here. Like you may have actually gotten one over on somebody. Pray tell eyeball. quote away. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You seem to think that you're really onto something here. Like you may have actually gotten one over on somebody. Pray tell eyeball. quote away. Sure. It's a case of you getting yourselves though. On 5/20/2019 at 3:19 PM, OftenWrong said: I was talking about multi-national corporations and their ability to influence laws in countries that they do business in. He had it right but then he switched to one country as it ever was he said. On 5/21/2019 at 4:07 PM, OftenWrong said: If the position decades ago was to oppose China, then I don't see any inconsistency here. Everything is just right. At no point was there inconsistency in our position to take action that limits China's power, preferably such that our own power increases. That is the game here, still is and ever was. Why didn't liberal groups like labour unions, environmental organizations and opponents of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank call it Chinaization if that is and ever was the game? The 'game' was about limiting the power of all governments to regulate trade around the globe not just China's. See where it says International and World, why do you bozos think that is? 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: globalization, as far as Canadians are concerned, just refers to Trudeau and his antics, plus the global immigration pact that Trudeau signed. Which is exactly what I said it was. What you said was even stupider than what Oftenwrong said. Edited May 24, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 10 hours ago, eyeball said: He had it right but then he switched to one country I have always had it right. The Chinese and the Globalists are not the same thing, if that gives you a hint to what people are discussing here. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I have always had it right. The Chinese and the Globalists are not the same thing, What you said is that the concern about globalism is about China. China is not a globe. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 3 hours ago, eyeball said: What you said is that the concern about globalism is about China. Nonsense. Quote
eyeball Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Nonsense. Yes it was. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted May 24, 2019 Report Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Yes it was. Nonsense. Quote
eyeball Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Quote China Is Cutting Tariffs—For Everyone Else As Trump focuses on disruption, Beijing is evidently operating on a higher level. Trump started the trade war by levying new taxes on $250 billion worth of Chinese exports. China retaliated both by increasing the duties Americans face and by decreasing the tariffs that confront everyone else: It has cut tariffs on thousands of products from the rest of the world’s fisheries, farmers, and firms. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/chinas-two-pronged-trade-war/591877/ It stands to reason that Tariff Man knows that tariffs are good for creating the disruption that the people who voted for him wanted. I'm gobsmacked, a President who's actually delivered. Quote It has cut the Chinese tariff on lobster bought from Canada, Maine’s fierce rival in the lobster business. As a result, Canada has seen its lobster exports to China nearly double. Maine may never recover its previously dominant position in this export market. Surely this is something that even hard-boiled Trump supporters in Canada can cheer as well. Of course all the help-wanted signs springing up around Canadian lobster docks inspiring Canadians to demand more immigrants probably sucks. All I can say is go Trump go! Edited June 19, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: Of course all the help-wanted signs springing up around Canadian lobster docks inspiring Canadians to demand more immigrants probably sucks. All I can say is go Trump go! Not sure I agree with your economics. The number of lobsters allowed to be fished is limited by a licence. At least that's how I understand these things work, I could be wrong. But if so, it means they cannot haul out significantly more lobsters to send to the Chinese. What they can do though, is up the price. ETA- Quote Total Allowable Catches The 2018 TAC for Offshore Lobster (LFA 41) is 720t, which has remained consistent since 1985, and is based on historical landings Link One needs to learn the rules of fishing... Edited June 19, 2019 by OftenWrong Added informative information Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 Trump doesn't need and never got the lobster vote. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted June 19, 2019 Report Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Not sure I agree with your economics. The number of lobsters allowed to be fished is limited by a licence. At least that's how I understand these things work, I could be wrong. But if so, it means they cannot haul out significantly more lobsters to send to the Chinese. What they can do though, is up the price. ETA- Link I have no doubt you could be very wrong about how fishing works. Also from your link Quote Single or multi-year planning As the stock is currently in the healthy zone, a three-year quota management cycle is available to licence holders. Quote One needs to learn the rules of fishing... There's a lot more than just that to learn. You'd probably be shocked at the number of camera's, GPS, black-boxes, human observers and paper trails are used to keep Canadian fishermen on the straight and narrow these days. You'd probably wonder if you were in China its gotten so strict. I'll never forget the pitch black night I was taking a leak over the side of the boat 20 miles off shore. When a low flying spotter plane flew straight at me and snapped a picture the flash lit up the sea all around and scared the Beejeezus out of me. Just checking to see that I was where I'd reported I'd be I guess. As for the economics... Quote How China saved Canada's lobster industry China has rapidly become the second largest destination for Canadian lobster, with Chinese demand and investment creating a lobster boom across Atlantic Canada. https://truenorthfareast.com/news/canada-lobster-china-exports And now its gotten even better. Sounds like pretty good times for lobster fishermen. Canadian that is, and they didn't vote for Trump either. Go Trump go! Edited June 19, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 10:47 PM, eyeball said: I have no doubt you could be very wrong about how fishing works. Also from your link All that does is extend the licence to cover 3 years. At the end your grand total is still the same. Do not fish with this man, else you might get arrested... Quote
eyeball Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 9 hours ago, OftenWrong said: All that does is extend the licence to cover 3 years. At the end your grand total is still the same. It extends certainty to the fisherman. A pretty important part of business planning don't you think? Like I said there's more than just rules to learn when fishing. Quote Do not fish with this man, else you might get arrested... Not a single charge or even a warning after 30 years of fishing. You don't teach kids English comprehension or economics do you? That would be a real crime. Bottom line is the Canadian lobster industry is thrilled that their main competitors have people with the sort of unknowledgeable approach you and Tariff Man bring to issues. Adds to the certainty. Go Trump go! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
xul Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) On 5/19/2019 at 9:57 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: tariffs are the monkey wrench that Trump is using to disrupt status quo globalism, regardless of who pays. I agree with you on Trump's intention. As for monkeys, the name "Monkey Wrench" reminds me them, sometimes they do work like stable geniuses when scientists give them some simple tasks to do for testing their IQ. But when the problem is too complex for their IQ to resolve, they become unstable due to frustration and begin to thump, yank and shriek, trying to get positive results by merely using brutal force........ Edited June 29, 2019 by xul Quote
xul Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 "Stop! I mean it! No treat!" It seems like the monkey trainer in the video of my last post does know how to calm down an unstable shrieking monkey and make it a stable genius again... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, xul said: "Stop! I mean it! No treat!" It seems like the monkey trainer in the video of my last post does know how to calm down an unstable shrieking monkey and make it a stable genius again... OK....but chimpanzees are not monkeys...they are great apes...hominids...just like humans. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
xul Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) On 6/29/2019 at 10:50 AM, bush_cheney2004 said: OK....but chimpanzees are not monkeys...they are great apes...hominids...just like humans. I know President Trump is a human which means he is smarter than either a monkey or a chimpanzee. Have you ever considered why he is so eager to meet Kim Jong-un right now? It's a diversion to draw focus of the public from the trade war. The suddenly announced tariff on Mexico weeks ago also served the same purpose. It's nothing about to the border security. It's just a diversion to cover up his failure on delivering the trade war victory over China which he prematurely announced on Tweet. Do you remember my joke "The rabbit f**ked a cat to show he has balls. He didn't care what he was f**king"? Trump bullied Mexico just for showing his supporters that he had balls. He didn't care who he was bullying but only who he could bully..... Edited June 30, 2019 by xul Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, xul said: I know President Trump is a human which means he is smarter than either a monkey or a chimpanzee. Have you ever considered why he is so eager to meet Kim Jong-un right now? It's a diversion to draw focus of the public from the trade war. Quite silly, as Trump's presidency is by definition one of the biggest political "diversions" in U.S. history. Trump will reflexively do what his predecessors refused to do, if only to be the contrarian seeking contrarian results. He became president that way, defeating many experienced GOP rivals and the Clinton political machine. You may not like Trump's methods for dealing with globalization and the huge trade imbalance with China, but many American voters understand that he is attacking and disrupting the status quo. Quote Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Edited June 30, 2019 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You may not like Trump's methods for dealing with globalization and the huge trade imbalance with China, but many American voters understand that he is attacking and disrupting the status quo. Voters as stupid as the day is long perhaps. As for the status quo, the wealth gap still grew bigger. That's all that matters. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Voters as stupid as the day is long perhaps. As for the status quo, the wealth gap still grew bigger. That's all that matters. You already lost your economic battle without a fight....doesn't mean American voters have to. Sit back and watch the fun...as always. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 Nonetheless the wealth gap grew and the status quo remains unchanged. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 On 5/19/2019 at 5:26 PM, Neil Austen said: Trump continues to say China pays for the tariffs. What? U.S. Importers pays for the tariffs and then pass the costs to U.S. consumers. China does not pay a single cent for U.S. tariffs. China may sell less stuff, but the ones paying more for nearly everything on their store shelves are Americans. You should stop worrying about what Trump is doing for America and instead you should be worrying more about what Trudeau is not doing for Canada. America is on the move thanks to Trump while thanks to Trudeau Canada lags behind America. How and why Canada is not on par with America is the question that all Canadians should be asking. Trump is a leader, Trudeau is a follower. Quote
taxme Posted June 30, 2019 Report Posted June 30, 2019 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: You already lost your economic battle without a fight....doesn't mean American voters have to. Sit back and watch the fun...as always. While Trump's America becomes great again and the American economy is on fire, Trudeau's Canada becomes not so great anymore and our fire is almost out. Canadians are sitting back as usual and are watching America have all the fun... as always. I am pissed off that it is costing me $1.35 Canadian to buy one American dollar. That alone tells me that things are not going all that great in Canada. What the hell have our dear leaders done and are still doing to Canada? Me thinks that they blow too many tax dollars on bull shit useless programs and agenda that serve no purpose and help to keep Canada poor and weak. Disgusting. Quote
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