Trudeau test drives his smear campaign

[mowich]

On 4/13/2019 at 12:01 PM, Argus said:

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau road tested his campaign strategy Friday, lumping Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer with Ontario Premier Doug Ford and other right-of-centre politicians who deny climate change, vilify immigrants and tolerate white nationalists.

So it's obvious that this morally and intellectually bankrupt government is not so much going to defend its record of governing but make the election a smear campaign against the Conservatives (even though they promised never to do that). We've seen hints of that already from Freeland, Hussein and Blair. This 'vilify immigrants' thing is spoken by a guy who just introduced a legal change in an omnibus bill(which he said were undemocratic and promised never to use) which would basically removes the right of asylum seekers to a hearing if they had either come from a safe third country or had applied for refugee status anywhere else. Not only that but it would deport them not to the other country they applied for asylum in but to their original country of origin! If Scheer had the balls to even suggest that a few months ago Trudeau and his Libs would have been screaming insults from morning to midnight.

This is a truly desperate government not interested in running on its record, and even less interested in honesty or integrity.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-road-tests-campaign-strategy-1.5096998

To be honest, Argus - the little potato doesn't have much of, if any, record worth mentioning unless it is one of failure, contempt for Canadians and a litany of lies.  Thus he left to the age-old liberal tactics of attacking the opposition. 

[mowich]

On 4/17/2019 at 7:23 AM, jacee said:

More amazing that Scheer says "Vote for me! I'm an ultra-Christian Nazi with dimples!"

And the answer is obvious ... vote for neither of the idiots. 

Please provide a link to the story/article that this quote is taken from else you be proved nothing less than a liar unable to make sensible arguments on the topic instead making up your own false quotes. 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You're engaging in circular reasoning here.

Your desire for censorship of social media is born of fear of it inciting violence. I think it's pertinent to mention how much violence Islam provokes.

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. I guess you're conveniently attributing right-terror to mental illness and Muslim-terror to rational and purpose mental state. 

No. You spoke about how vulnerable people like Bissonnette could be incited to violence by far right social media. You've at least inferred it is the same with Islamic terrorists. Islam, the hateful words that it contains, the way so many of its mullahs and imams, including some here in Canada continue to focus on those hateful words, all serve to incite violence only to a greater degree. There are, after all, no alt-right churches, temples or mosques, and it has no written doctrine which allegedly was dictated by God himself.

If the alt-right says something like "Fags should just be killed" I'm sure you'd take that as dangerous incitement, so why would you not think the same when Muslim religious figures say the same thing? If the far-right is castigating Jews as being in some sort of evil plot to enslave man why would you not want to ban the things Mullahs and imams say about Jews?

[jacee]

4 hours ago, scribblet said:

Don't  know where you dreamed that one up.  The only people in the gutter are the liberals who started this with their gutter campaign which is the lowest any party has gone...even liberals such as Warren Kinsella are speaking out against such egregious tactics, and ndp nathan Cullen also  did so.   this baseless unfounded  tactic is even more egregious considering Trudeau's promise.  Those who find it  acceptable are as scummy, pathetic  and disgusting as those who dreamed it up.      sunny ways are now scummy ways

 

Is Scheer going to stop hanging out with white supremacists?

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, jacee said:

Is Scheer going to stop hanging out with white supremacists?

 

Oh, when will you stop kicking your cat?

[jacee]

18 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Oh, when will you stop kicking your cat?

https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/faith-goldy-toronto-white-nationalist-poster-girl.html

Edited April 19, 2019 by jacee

[DogOnPorch]

9 minutes ago, jacee said:

....

 

Yes...yes, we're all aware here that anybody who you disagree with is Adolf Hitler reborn.

[scribblet]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Is Scheer going to stop hanging out with white supremacists?

Are you going to stop beating your kids 

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, scribblet said:

Are you going to stop beating your kids 

 

Can you imagine Faith Goldy invading Poland??

Fashionable scarves on the tanks??

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

1. Your desire for censorship of social media is born of fear of it inciting violence. I think it's pertinent to mention how much violence Islam provokes.

 2. If the alt-right says something like "Fags should just be killed" I'm sure you'd take that as dangerous incitement, so why would you not think the same when Muslim religious figures say the same thing?

3. If the far-right is castigating Jews as being in some sort of evil plot to enslave man why would you not want to ban the things Mullahs and imams say about Jews?

1. Again - your absorption.  You can't separate the religion from the co-factors that are involved.

2. It's not acceptable either way.

3. I do think they should be removed from their posts if they do that.  There was a mosque that did that in Toronto and they were protested.

 

[Army Guy]

On 4/18/2019 at 4:53 AM, jacee said:

My point, already stated, is that the Conservative and Liberal leaders are both idiots, dragging the country into the gutter, with their minions happily following. 

(Side note: White supremacists are hateful scumbags. Gays are just regular people. Your comparison is ridiculous.)

Maybe , but you understood it's intention, it's ok for you to paint an entire people with one brush, but not any body else....and I agree most white supremist are hateful, along with most Antifa as well, but thats not what you said you your implying that conservatives = white supremist

[jacee]

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Maybe , but you understood it's intention, it's ok for you to paint an entire people with one brush, but not any body else....and I agree most white supremist are hateful, along with most Antifa as well, but thats not what you said you your implying that conservatives = white supremist

White supremacists, by definition, are all hateful people: Hatred toward non-white people defines them.  They also tend toward homophobia and misogyny.

The masses of people who oppose white supremacist rallies and marches and vastly outnumber them are from churches, mosques, synagogues and other anti-racist, anti-hate and anti-fascist groups.

While not all Conservatives may be white supremacists, they try to make sure that all white supremacists vote Conservative. 

[jacee]

15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Can you imagine Faith Goldy invading Poland??

 

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Fashionable scarves on the tanks??

 

 

Irrelevant as usual. 

Faith Goldy wants to be a hero in the spotlight. 

“I’ve always longed to protect the flock, and stare eyeball to eyeball with the wolves.”

She's found her "flock" of follower minions in the white supremacist community, and they their 'hero'. 

 

[DogOnPorch]

9 minutes ago, jacee said:

Irrelevant as usual. 

Faith Goldy wants to be a hero in the spotlight. 

“I’ve always longed to protect the flock, and stare eyeball to eyeball with the wolves.”

She's found her "flock" of follower minions in the white supremacist community, and they their 'hero'. 

 

 

I can see that you hate her.

I can also see anybody that disagrees with you is Hitler reborn. 

But, keep thinking you're the normal one...

As mentioned, I'd like you to scream your message from the rooftops. Be sure everybody hears you and knows your position...also be sure they know exactly what you think of those who vote differently than you do.

You and Faith...closer than you think. Which is probably why you hate her, eh?

But, hey...my dollar store psychology...worth a buck...right?

Edited April 20, 2019 by DogOnPorch

[PIK]

58 minutes ago, jacee said:

White supremacists, by definition, are all hateful people: Hatred toward non-white people defines them.  They also tend toward homophobia and misogyny.

The masses of people who oppose white supremacist rallies and marches and vastly outnumber them are from churches, mosques, synagogues and other anti-racist, anti-hate and anti-fascist groups.

While not all Conservatives may be white supremacists, they try to make sure that all white supremacists vote Conservative. 

Yet trudeau can travel the world with indian terrorists with blood on thier hands. There is a reason white nationalism is on the rise, and it has nothing to do with conservatives.

[scribblet]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

White supremacists, by definition, are all hateful people: Hatred toward non-white people defines them.  They also tend toward homophobia and misogyny.

The masses of people who oppose white supremacist rallies and marches and vastly outnumber them are from churches, mosques, synagogues and other anti-racist, anti-hate and anti-fascist groups.

While not all Conservatives may be white supremacists, they try to make sure that all white supremacists vote Conservative. 

Yes they are, but your hysterical ravings painting a group of people with one brush which you would never tolerate if someone used the same rhetoric on say Muslims.  I know a lot of conservatives and have for years from various walks of life, none are as you describe them and are rightly  appalled at the misuse and liberal interpretation of 'white supremacy and racism' as if it's running rampant in Canada.   (it is not)

Who is 'they' who are making sure all 'white supremacists' vote conservative.  

All I can say is that such ravings are insane and cartoonish; they are driving people away from the liberals.    This is American but you get the picture  https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/351159-liberals-abandon-logic-to-weaponize-white-supremacy

[PIK]

2 hours ago, jacee said:

Irrelevant as usual. 

Faith Goldy wants to be a hero in the spotlight. 

“I’ve always longed to protect the flock, and stare eyeball to eyeball with the wolves.”

She's found her "flock" of follower minions in the white supremacist community, and they their 'hero'. 

 

So in your world everyone can fight for thier rights and traditions but white people. You know why we are so great of a country, because of who we are and where we came from, and Islam has nothing to do with it. And once the white lose the power in this country, 3rd world status here we come. Now everyone on the planet can live in misery.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, jacee said:

White supremacists, by definition, are all hateful people: Hatred toward non-white people defines them.  They also tend toward homophobia and misogyny.

The masses of people who oppose white supremacist rallies and marches and vastly outnumber them are from churches, mosques, synagogues and other anti-racist, anti-hate and anti-fascist groups.

While not all Conservatives may be white supremacists, they try to make sure that all white supremacists vote Conservative. 

Antifa and leftist by definition are also hateful people, who tend to paint anyone not of their group with one paint brush, they tend to trigger easily when you question immigration or other topics that they hold near and dear.... and they goto their favorite  your a Racist , or white nationalist/ supremacist...U tube is full of them , getting triggered , their heads turning red to the point of exploding, spittle flying every where , lets not forget the masks . yes they believe in their cause, but don't want anyone to know who they really are....Thats what I call a true believer....hiding behind a mask....

Thanks For that little bit of compassion Jacee, did not think you had any..... now that I think about it, not all liberals, green ,NDP are gay, most, but not all....but they sure like to pander to those types of groups...

[Argus]

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Again - your absorption.  You can't separate the religion from the co-factors that are involved.

There are no co-factors. You keep pretending otherwise but have yet to come up with one which explains why Muslim countries as disparate as Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Indonesia operate in largely the same way; with unequal laws for women and men, unequal laws for Muslims and non-Muslims, and extreme and violent repressive laws against homosexuals.

18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. It's not acceptable either way.

3. I do think they should be removed from their posts if they do that.  There was a mosque that did that in Toronto and they were protested.

Yes, they were protested by the people you want to silence. They certainly weren't protested by progressives or liberals.

[PIK]

I was ready where all Inman had sermons saying you must vote if you want to complain, and also there is a populist party that could win,(cons) and we must not let them win. In other words vote for trudeau because he will give us everything. This is the most important election ever in this country. If canadians want to save thier country , you must vote scheer if you like him or not. Because give trudeau one more term and our country is gone forever.

[jacee]

6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

But, hey...my dollar store psychology...worth a buck...right?

Not even close. 

 

[jacee]

6 hours ago, PIK said:

Yet trudeau can travel the world with indian terrorists with blood on thier hands. There is a reason white nationalism is on the rise, and it has nothing to do with conservatives.

How would you describe it? 

[jacee]

5 hours ago, scribblet said:

 

Who is 'they' who are making sure all 'white supremacists' vote conservative.  

... they are driving people away from the liberals.    https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/351159-liberals-abandon-logic-to-weaponize-white-supremacy

No Liberal here! 

But let me clarify ... the CONSERVATIVE PARTY is courting white supremacist votes. 

[jacee]

5 hours ago, PIK said:

So in your world everyone can fight for thier rights and traditions but white people. 

White supremacists don't speak for white people. 

[scribblet]

4 minutes ago, jacee said:

No Liberal here! 

But let me clarify ... the CONSERVATIVE PARTY is courting white supremacist votes. 

Let me clarify something for you ----  NO THEY ARE NOT