Robert Greene Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) Just for an ideas exercise, if you got to be the dictator of Canada what would you change? Here's the first thing I would change. I would end all welfare, and use the money to provide basic jobs guarantee for anyone healthy enough to work. I would roundup all homeless and offer them a basic job, shelter, and mental health counseling. As soon as they start paying taxes, I would begin paying down debt. What would be your first policy as dictator? Edited April 4, 2019 by Robert Greene Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 Lock Justin Trudeau up of course. Eradicate CBC. Impose English or/and French exclusively as a language for advertisement and as store banners. Have a 1000% tax on real estate for foreigners who buy property and don't live in them 10 months a year. Impose a quota to reduce immigration at 100k/year countrywide and deport the immigrants who after five years have not worked 4 years full time. Citizenship obtainable after 20 years instead of 3, and public healthcare only after having paid at least $100 000 of income in federal and provincial tax. Abolish the Trudeau Constitution and replace it by one where Free Speech is irrefutable and legally protected. 1 1 Quote
August1991 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Robert Greene said: Just for an ideas exercise, if you got to be the dictator of Canada what would you change? Here's the first thing I would change. I would end all welfare, and use the money... Money? You lost me there. The Bank of Canada can print money whenever it wants. ===== Canada is a rich country. Diamonds, oil, waterfalls. In Montreal, everyday, I walk by natives who are drunk, poor. Why? Quote
Argus Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 18 hours ago, Robert Greene said: Just for an ideas exercise, if you got to be the dictator of Canada what would you change? Here's the first thing I would change. I would end all welfare, and use the money to provide basic jobs guarantee for anyone healthy enough to work. I would roundup all homeless and offer them a basic job, shelter, and mental health counseling. As soon as they start paying taxes, I would begin paying down debt. What makes you think all the homeless, most of whom have heavy addiction issues, and at least half of whom have mental health issues, are capable of holding a job, or even want one? How do you guarantee a job for someone who is basically unemployable? As for 'as soon as they start paying taxes' that's a confusing statement since almost half the population doesn't pay income tax at the moment. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Have a 1000% tax on real estate for foreigners who buy property and don't live in them 10 months a year. Impose a quota to reduce immigration at 100k/year countrywide and deport the immigrants who after five years have not worked 4 years full time. Citizenship obtainable after 20 years instead of 3, and public healthcare only after having paid at least $100 000 of income in federal and provincial tax. Abolish the Trudeau Constitution and replace it by one where Free Speech is irrefutable and legally protected. You want to impose a 1000% tax on people who own cottages here? Do the Americans get to reciprocate given how many Canadians own homes in Florida or Arizona they only live in in the winter? How do you know 100k immigrants is the right number? Do you deport immigrants' stay-at-home wives/mothers? Do you realize how few Canadians EVER pay $100k in income tax? What's fair about denying immigrants health care for not paying a tax Canadians rarely pay? Edited April 4, 2019 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) So I'm dictator am I? Okay, well, I'd change the courts to require they rule ONLY on what is actually physically written in the constitution. No more inferring things from it. I'd also go back to when parliament could overrule the courts. Expand justice of the peace program. Any citizen would be able to make a complaint against a business or citizen to be heard by a panel of three justices of the peace. No lawyers would be allowed. Think your car dealer screwed you? Complain about it. Most minor crimes would be heard by justices of the peace. A representative would be provided but with minimal paperwork, and no lawyers unless the representative recommends it. Such panels would hear cases within 24 hours of arrest in most cases. Reform the existing judicial system to greatly streamline it and increase efficiency. Institute a draft for either military or national service for everyone who reaches 18. The purpose would be to give them a sense of ownership and belonging and shared identity in this country, among other things. Implement a new kind of prison system which will house men and women together (except sex offenders). This would be a kind of factory/industrial/business office place surrounded by fencing where inmates worked off their penalty to the state. Everyone would have their own room. There'd even be bars and nightclubs. Of course, if you act up, you lose the right to go to them. Mandatory counselling would take place almost every evening. People who commit repeated crimes would stay there indefinitely. Implement a flat tax to be paid by everyone. Greatly enhance government skills training programs. Adapt European style health care, including some privately provided health care, and user fees. Hugely improve mental health care and addiction treatment - both of which would be mandatory, btw. Only allow the immigration of beautiful young single women. :-) Edited April 4, 2019 by Argus 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 19 hours ago, Robert Greene said: What would be your first policy as dictator? Outlaw in-camera lobbying. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 16 hours ago, August1991 said: Money? You lost me there. The Bank of Canada can print money whenever it wants. ===== Canada is a rich country. Diamonds, oil, waterfalls. In Montreal, everyday, I walk by natives who are drunk, poor. Why? Canada borrows money from the international banksters or some country. The Canadian taxpayer's then have to pay back that money borrowed, with interest, to those that the spend crazy politicians borrowed that money from. The Bank of Canada is pretty much owned by the international banksters. Try and get a copy of and read all about what The Comer Report has to say where it pretty much explains as to how the Canadian government has the right to print Canadian money but they will not do it. They let private banksters create our money. The Harper government even ordered the Canadian media to ignore The Comer Report. What does that tell us all, eh? It tells me that Harper does not take his orders from we the people. Canada is rich with plenty of resources but the communists in our government will not open it up wide to Canadians for all to make plenty of money. Instead we just get more taxes, more bureaucracy, more rules and regulations, and less freedom to stifle growth not create growth. That is what is keeping Canadians from getting really rich. Between globalist corporations the international banksters, the environmentalists, and the communist government in Ottawa Canada or Canadians will never succeed in their potential to become a great world power. Our low Canadian peso should tell us all that Canada or Canadians will never become rich and that we are bloody poor country. Only a few in the globalist elite family in Canada are getting rich. There is no need for Indians or white people to be hanging around on corners or under bridges and getting drunk or taking drugs every day. Our politicians are responsible for all of that. Politicians are not our friends. They act more like they are enemies of we the people. Canadians have lost total control of their over spending commie government. Just my opinion, of course. Quote
Army Guy Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 I like Argus idea on the constitution, adding a little twist, Quebec would come under the same Constitution as the rest of us, As well as the Indigenous people, we would all be Canadians, all equal, with the same laws/ benefits/ policies. don't like there is the door. Justice system would be revamped totally, meaning there would be no more throwing out cases due to technicalities, if the bastard is guilty then they do they time...Serving time is serving time, meaning life means 25 years no more ,no less "guess what your suppose to be good in jail" if your not we will add more time to your sentence. Every convict will work a max of 8 hours producing something , or working on prison farm.every day, to pay for their food, and rent etc., plus do 4 hours of rehabilitation programs each day... and for those repeat or serious offenders open a prison up in the high artic, no fences or fancy alarms, want to run off there is the door...Free ride would be over, convicts would not be allowed to vote, receive welfare, old age security, or pensions form other sources, while imprisoned these would be seized and used to pay for their forced vist. they would have NO rights under the constitution while in jail... Collage Education would be free, thats right all that is required is students maintain a certain grade point average, and limited to the amount of different specialties you can take...University education would also be free, but would require a repayment program for every year in higher education program , would mean one would have to serve in a federal program of some sort. Ie a doctor would serve in a federal Hospital for the same amount of years he received in education....etc etc... Health care system would be reworked, it would be 3 tiered Private care clinics , provincially clinics / smaller hospitals, and federal hospital/ specialized care facility's such as cancer/ kids / etc. etc. The federal hospital would be a teaching hospitals employ persons form the federal education systems.... funds provinces save on medical costs could be used on education , infra structure etc... No more pandering to big business, we live in a free market society if you fail then you fail...new laws could be written to protect employees pension programs. No more cartels , such as dairy/ cheese /egg etc, ... or anything else that the government makes a killing on by selling quotas and managing pricing of products. again we are a free market nation....can't make it in business then find another occupation.... No more do you have to have millions to run for office....having money does not make you smarter nor the best person for the job.... F8888 the UN and all of its liberal programs. Note not all of there programs but most of them... Provide ALL the programs our Vets need , including establishing more vet Hospitals, care centers, mental health care...Anything they need...also add anyone who has served as a firefighter, policemen, EMT tech, Coast guard, CSIS, Border guard, anyone who has signed on to unlimited liability to carry out their jobs..... Add to our constitution that it is law that we maintain a proper equipped, and funded security depts. , RCMP, Coast guard, Border services, CSIS, DND. to meet all of our Nations defense requirements, and all defensive pact commitments. Natural resources, drive as many pipelines as needed to get our oil to market, both domestically and inter national, provide incentives to expand or build new refineries to look after domestic supply first, then inter national, take a look at all our natural resources, one at a time and make them all benefit domestic use first, like lumber 90 % of number 1/2 grade lumber cut in NB goes to the states, whats left is left for Canadians...even when the US was taxing the shit our of all lumber... Declining birth rate, funding saved from decreased immigration would go towards creative incentives to entice our Canadian adults to have more children , national avg is 1.6 anything above this the more the incentive would be.... Immigration would be reworked, make it impossible to buy a Canadian citizenship..., create a new list of requirements that would be mandatory for every immigrant to complete, and yes that would include a check if they are compatible with our nations moral values, our laws, and traditions.. Canada would stop changing its historical self to placate foreign nationals, you want to come to Canada because you want to be part of that, then THEY change and adapt to our society....ya your going to call me a racist, but FU I'm a dictator remember... Change the public service pay scale....no longer would politicians be payed sky high wages, then only after 8 years be entitled to a full pension, along with a long list of benefits they are entitled to most would be cut....All wages would be in line with what the rest of the business world is paying....that would also go for benefits... That would be a great start....I would have like to gather up all the liberals and NDP, and greens put them on a boat and set them off into the free world....but come on a guy has to have a little bit of a heart, so we will send them over to the middle east for a year, see how many converts we have then.... OH take back control of the NHL, bring in more Canadian teams and put that wingnut running it now on that same boat as the liberals.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
taxme Posted April 4, 2019 Report Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Robert Greene said: Just for an ideas exercise, if you got to be the dictator of Canada what would you change? Here's the first thing I would change. I would end all welfare, and use the money to provide basic jobs guarantee for anyone healthy enough to work. I would roundup all homeless and offer them a basic job, shelter, and mental health counseling. As soon as they start paying taxes, I would begin paying down debt. What would be your first policy as dictator? 1. More freedom, less government interference. 2. Less government, less bureaucracy, less rules and regulations. 3. Less immigration and less political correctness. Multiculturalism gone. Bilingualism gone. Quebec will abolish it's french only language laws or face retribution. 4. The right to Citizen Initiated Referendums and the Right to Recall. 5. Politicians found to be lying to we the people go to jail. They lose their pensions. 6. The government of Canada to create it's own money and take the power away from the private international bankers. No borrowing money from other countries. 7. Majority rule, not minority rule. The minority have been allowed to run and rule Canada and Canadians for several decades now. No more. No special exemptions for any foreign religion or for their culture and traditions. Become Canadian and accept the Canadian values and ways of life. Say no to that then leave Canada. Have a nice trip back home. 8. Taxes collected to stay in Canada for Canadians. No more foreign aid. GST gone. No more marketing boards. Free enterprise only. Make it or break it. 9. No citizenship for a new immigrant until they have been living and working in Canada for ten years. Commit a crime and you are out of here. No more dual citizenship. Either one wants to be Canadian or does not want to be Canadian. One cannot be loyal to another country. Loyalties to two different countries could create many problems. 10. All illegals entering Canada illegally will be sent right back from whence they came or those that do enter Canada illegally must really prove that they are true and real refugees and do have a fear of persecution if they are forced back to their country. See, I can be compassionate if I want to be. A real and true conservative government would implement all those mentioned above. Lucky for the majority of liberals/socialists,communists and the environmentalists that I am not the "Canadian dictator" of Canada. Anyone here like all or any or none of my dictator plans for Canada and Canadians? Don't be shy. Edited April 4, 2019 by taxme Quote
Robert Greene Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Argus said: Implement a new kind of prison system which will house men and women together (except sex offenders). This would be a kind of factory/industrial/business office place surrounded by fencing where inmates worked off their penalty to the state. Everyone would have their own room. There'd even be bars and nightclubs. Of course, if you act up, you lose the right to go to them. Mandatory counselling would take place almost every evening. You're starting to sound like a breeding heart liberal. All joking aside, I think this is a brilliant idea. I wouldn't want to allow mass murders to go to bars and nightclubs. If someone stole a car, and they were a good prisoner, why shouldn't they have some freedoms? Locking people to a cell 23 hours a day, it's not only outdated, it's ineffective. Taxpayers are the biggest losers. We can cheer for justice all day, but when our countries in debt, it makes no sense not to rehabilitate old offender. The prisoners who try and better themselves should get some freedoms, and they can be put on probation early, if they go to high schools, and warn young people not to get involved in gangs. I would implement the death penalty for people who rape and murder children. My suggestion would be to lock them in a cell with 5 gallons of water. Let them stave to death. We don't need Islamic torture, just let them run out of food. For normal murder, I would impose the death penalty by hanging, but I would allow the prisoner to live, if they became an outstanding member of the prison community. If they truly want to live, we can give them options, but they have to follow the rules. As far as drunk natives in the north. I would force them to do 50 hours of hard labor, the first offense, and require them to do random checks for drugs or alcohol. The second offense, I would give them 10 strokes of the cane. Edited April 5, 2019 by Robert Greene Quote
Robert Greene Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) I want to hear from the liberals. Pretend you get to be dictator, what progressive ideas would you force into policy? You like to be hard on conservatives, well what would you do instead? Edited April 5, 2019 by Robert Greene Quote
Owly Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robert Greene said: I want to hear from the liberals. Pretend you get to be dictator, what progressive ideas would you force into policy? You like to be hard on conservatives, well what would you do instead? I would kick conservative arses down the road for suggesting we entertain dictatorships. Go to Russia is my suggestion. Quote
Robert Greene Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Owly said: I would kick conservative arses down the road for suggesting we entertain dictatorships. Go to Russia is my suggestion. So you don't have any ideas of your own? They have the freedom of speech, just as much as you do. Give me some original ideas, maybe will agree with some of them. What would you do, if you had total control over policy? Feel free to attack any of our ideas, but first I want to hear your ideas. Edited April 5, 2019 by Robert Greene Quote
eyeball Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robert Greene said: I want to hear from the liberals. Pretend you get to be dictator, what progressive ideas would you force into policy? You like to be hard on conservatives, well what would you do instead? I'd be hard on everyone I'm pretty sure outlawing in-camera lobbying would make me the most reviled dictator in the known universe. Speaking of two-bits that's the only thing I'd need to do. It would be that horrible. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Robert Greene Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'd be hard on everyone I'm pretty sure outlawing in-camera lobbying would make me the most reviled dictator in the known universe. Speaking of two-bits that's the only thing I'd need to do. It would be that horrible. Please go into more detail. Can you give an example of how this lobbying works? I would abolish pay-for-access lobbying. I remember, where Justin Trudeau had private dinner events, Where you had to pay $1500 to discuss policy with the liberal government. Edited April 5, 2019 by Robert Greene Quote
Owly Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Robert Greene said: So you don't have any ideas of your own? They have the freedom of speech, just as much as you do. Give me some original ideas, maybe will agree with some of them. What would you do, if you had total control over policy? Feel free to attack any of our ideas, but first I want to hear you idea. I suggest we greatly expand our production of Maple Syrup. Who the hell doesn't, or wouldn't love that stuff. And it comes from a tree so I doubt it would conflict with anyone's political or religious tenets. Quote
eyeball Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Robert Greene said: Please go into more detail. Can you give an example of how this lobbying works? It simply means no lobbying without a public record of the discussion. Quote I would abolish pay for access lobbying. What you're talking about would be impossible with cameras rolling. Its why I say outlawing in-camera is the only thing I'd need to do - doing so would cause everything else to change. Quote We shouldn't capitalize democracy. What democracy, we're talking about dictatorship. Edited April 5, 2019 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Robert Greene Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 8 hours ago, eyeball said: What democracy, we're talking about dictatorship. I'm not condoning authoritarianism, i'm just want to see peoples creativity. Quote
Argus Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Robert Greene said: You're starting to sound like a breeding heart liberal. All joking aside, I think this is a brilliant idea. I wouldn't want to allow mass murders to go to bars and nightclubs. If someone stole a car, and they were a good prisoner, why shouldn't they have some freedoms? Locking people to a cell 23 hours a day, it's not only outdated, it's ineffective. Taxpayers are the biggest losers. We can cheer for justice all day, but when our countries in debt, it makes no sense not to rehabilitate old offender. The prisoners who try and better themselves should get some freedoms, and they can be put on probation early, if they go to high schools, and warn young people not to get involved in gangs. Prisons are dehumanizing. How is that good for society unless we're going to keep them there forever? As you say, someone stealing a car or robbing a house, or a bank for that matter, doesn't appear to be someone we need to keep away from women. Set up a small town, highly regimented and monitored by Cctv. Let the work. Teach them HOW to work, be at at customer service, manufacturing, farming, etc. Require they work in order to earn tokens for access to the bars, theaters and clubs. That will lessen the cost to society of keeping them incarcerated. Have frequent drug tests. Fail a test get mandatory treatment and counselling or be shipped to an old fashioned prison for a month or two or three or six. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Army Guy Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 19 hours ago, Owly said: I suggest we greatly expand our production of Maple Syrup. Who the hell doesn't, or wouldn't love that stuff. And it comes from a tree so I doubt it would conflict with anyone's political or religious tenets. As long as we slam it with a carbon tax right.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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