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Here's my proposal. British Colombia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario become their own country. All the conservatives are welcome to join. English is the official language. Will call this country "Western Canada"

The new Capital relocates to Calgary, Alberta.

Quebec separates, and French is their official language.

New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland become a liberal nation. All liberals are welcome to join. Will call this country "Eastern Canada"

Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut become a native Country. All provincial natives must leave their reserves and join Conservative Canada, Liberal Canada, the Republic of Quebec, or Move to their new country.

If they choose to remain in Western Canada, they must get a job and pay taxes. If they can't find a job, a job will be given to them. No one, but the severely disabled receives welfare.The Western Canadian constitution guarantees a basic job, for anyone willing to work.

If they move to the Arctic, they can use their resources, and develop any way they like. They will no longer be receiving payment from Western Canada.

 

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4 minutes ago, Robert Greene said:

Here's my proposal. British Colombia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario become their own country. All the conservatives are welcome to join. English is the official language. Will call this country "Western Canada"

The new Capital relocates to Calgary, Alberta.

Quebec separates, and French is their official language.

New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland become a liberal nation. All liberals are welcome to join. Will call this country "Eastern Canada"

Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut become a native Country. All provincial natives must leave their reserves and join Conservative Canada, Liberal Canada, the Republic of Quebec, or Move to their new country.

If they choose to remain in Western Canada, they must get a job and pay taxes. If they can't find a job, a job will be given to them.

If they move to the Arctic, they can use their resources, and develop any way they like. They will no longer be receiving payment from Western Canada.

 

Got up on the wrong side of the bed today did ya?

Posted
1 minute ago, Owly said:

Got up on the wrong side of the bed today did ya?

I'm giving everyone the freedom to decide how they want to live. 

Let the conservatives build their own country.

Let the French build their own country.

Let the Liberals build their own country

Let the Natives build their own country.

Let everyone go off their separate ways.

Posted
1 minute ago, Robert Greene said:

I'm giving everyone the freedom to decide how they want to live. 

Let the conservatives build their own country.

Let the French build their own country.

Let the Liberals build their own country

Let the Natives build their own country.

Let everyone go off their separate ways.

I believe our diversity is one of our most important strengths. Ans I have traveled this country probably more than most.

Posted
2 hours ago, Robert Greene said:

Here's my proposal. British Colombia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario become their own country. All the conservatives are welcome to join. English is the official language. Will call this country "Western Canada"

The new Capital relocates to Calgary, Alberta.

.....

Another self-styled dictator wants to remake the map.

Robert,

The 20th century had enough people like you. Many in Quebec.

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As even Justin Trudeau noted several years ago, "This is 2015". 

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Another self-styled dictator wants to remake the map.

Robert,

The 20th century had enough people like you. Many in Quebec.

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As even Justin Trudeau noted several years ago, "This is 2015". 

Honestly If I was a dictator, I would reduce taxes by 25%, cut spending by 35%. When the economy takes off, I would use half the surpluses to pay down the debt, the other to have a redesigned social program, that would eliminate welfare, and replace it with a basic job guarantee for anyone healthy enough to work.

Someone with autism, mental disabilities, would not be denied work.

I would reform education, to have companies and industries spend a year teaching students, instead of 100% education being in the classroom.

I would require physical labor in high school, so all students learn the value of hard work.

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13 hours ago, Robert Greene said:

I'm joking ok. Obviously, I know it won't happen haha.

 

But seriously, I want the Natives to get their own country. I'm sick of being told I need to pay rent, just because I was born white.

There is an extremely simple solution:  give them the Capital Region and Quebec.   The Liberals make such a fuss over aboriginal issues let them live with them into perpetuity.

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If Quebec had voted for independence in 1995 I wonder would it have happened by now. I mean, look at the Brexit-shambles in Britain. 

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Posted
21 hours ago, Robert Greene said:

I'm giving everyone the freedom to decide how they want to live. 

Let the conservatives build their own country.

Let the French build their own country.

Let the Liberals build their own country

Let the Natives build their own country.

Let everyone go off their separate ways.

Jesus, you expect 37 odd million people to just decide to get with this program or were you thinking of using force?

I bet it would be a LOT easier if you just went on your way.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
19 hours ago, Robert Greene said:

I was born white.

I doubt that.  I'm betting you were actually born pink.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, eyeball said:

I doubt that.  I'm betting you were actually born pink.

Meh, I'm a jerk sometimes. I guess i'm tempted to join the far-right. I had too much racists crap thrown at me, and I'm trying to fight back a bit.

I just feel like white people are getting attacked from all angles, and the far-rights, are the only ones saying, it's time to put our foot down.

You wanna know the truth. Whites are becoming the new natives.

We're getting invaded by massive immigration, and were leaving the cities to move to northern communities.

I became a conservative, because I was worried about wasteful spending, and the fellow conservatives will only talk about race.

I resisted for a while, but then was you know what, I'll join them for a bit.

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9 hours ago, -TSS- said:

If Quebec had voted for independence in 1995 I wonder would it have happened by now. I mean, look at the Brexit-shambles in Britain. 

We wouldn't have to put up with annoying politicians speaking in French half the time. I'm tired of Quebec thinking they should decide how the rest of Canada is run. I feel sorry for Alberta, they can't even get a simple pipeline. Then the natives have to play there games.

It's like enough Already, Quebec should GTFO of Canada, and the natives. Well, lets give you the Territories, make your own country. I wish some of you success, but others need to learn the hard way.

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11 hours ago, Robert Greene said:

Meh, I'm a jerk sometimes. I guess i'm tempted to join the far-right. I had too much racists crap thrown at me, and I'm trying to fight back a bit.

I just feel like white people are getting attacked from all angles, and the far-rights, are the only ones saying, it's time to put our foot down.

You wanna know the truth. Whites are becoming the new natives.

We're getting invaded by massive immigration, and were leaving the cities to move to northern communities.

You're taking it to personally, and what's worse is your willingness to make it personal.

I've lived next door to what some people still refer to as a reserve since I was about 16.  I remember old non-native locals, friends and family often asking if I ever got beat up or if my kids got beat up on the bus school.  Not once - not even close.  Now that's not say there weren't a few scrappers from the village that were more than happy to get in some jerks face from time to time and Friday nights in the bar were usually pretty eventful back in the day.  I got challenged by the odd jerk from town when I first moved here but nothing untypical between small town kids challenging kids from the big city.  One day I asked one of the native scrappers why they never picked a fight with me or the few others like me that lived nearby and he said, "you hippies were different, you picked us up when we're hitch-hiking you invited us into your home for a beer - you treated us like yourselves". 
 

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I became a conservative, because I was worried about wasteful spending, and the fellow conservatives will only talk about race.

I could see myself being a conservative if being conservative had anything to do with conservation of our environment, ecosystems and ecological diversity but despite sharing the same root definition conservation seems to be at complete odds with conservatism.  I'm convinced this is a consequence of an even bigger discombobulation which occurred when the original post-French revolutionary definition for the term right-wing faded from memory and came to mean something else.  The end goal of conservatism seems to be nothing less than making wealthy powerful people as wealthy and powerful as possible.  Conservatives have been duped into buying some narrative that says we're all eternally locked into a struggle over the distribution of wealth when its really the distribution of power that's at issue.

Conservatives love imagining they're all about smaller governments and keeping them off people's backs but that's just about the farthest thing from an original right-winger's mind.  I bet it never occurred to you to think it works the very same way in a communist system whereby the people in authority have a small allied faction of powerful influential generals, union bosses and apparatchiks on one side and the great mass of everyone else on the other.  No surprise which side gets the government on its back is it?

As for all the racist shit, well, I guess that's just a darker side to human nature and one that provides a very convenient distraction from what's really important.  You've fallen for it hook line and sinker apparently.

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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7 hours ago, eyeball said:

As for all the racist shit, well, I guess that's just a darker side to human nature and one that provides a very convenient distraction from what's really important.  You've fallen for it hook line and sinker apparently.

Natives are the only race that are almost 100% environmentally sustainable. I'm jealous of natives, while you had a eco-tribal paradise, Europe was in it's dark ages.

I can't say industrial-capitalism is something to brag about.

We're just stuck with it, so we need to steer things in the right direction.

Two things I hate about the North American economic model. So many people are trapped in concrete jungles, while they don't get enough time off work to enjoy native. Every generation seems to get more disconnected.

I'm jealous of natives becomes Westerners have become alienated from nature. Natives still get to hunt, enjoy the outdoors and recreation. Whites have become a victim of their own success.

If I was born again, I rather live in Haida Gwaii 1000 years ago, than the European middle ages.

The natives still think 90% of Canada is white. I would to love to fly some of them south from the reserves. They can visit some of the Toronto neighborhoods, where it's less than 10% white.

We're getting displaced, so whites are becoming the new natives.

I don't wish harm on any race, but I hate being displaced.

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12 minutes ago, Robert Greene said:

We're getting displaced, so whites are becoming the new natives.

I don't wish harm on any race, but I hate being displaced.

I haven't been displaced. I don't know anyone who has. I don't know what that means ... 

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23 minutes ago, jacee said:

I haven't been displaced. I don't know anyone who has. I don't know what that means ... 

I live in Northern Toronto. Where I'm from if you travel 3 kilometers, 80% of the population is non white. A large portion of the stores, won't put up English signs.

Displaced means, a white kid can only find 3 or 4 other white kids in their entire class.

It means white people will soon be marrying non-whites, or dating non-whites just to have companionship.

 

How would you feel if they built a Mosque 1 Kilometer from your Reserve. You might not hate Muslims, but you might want to preserve Majority in your own community.

Natives can keep their own race alive in Reserves. The whites are being fragmented, left, right, and center.

We're becoming an endangered species in many parts of Southern Canada.

 

Most people on reserves have no clue what's going on. White are becoming a bigger minority in large urban areas, than natives are in Northern Canada.

When natives blame Europeans for wrecking Canada, they have no clue what's been happening in recent years.

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5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's sometimes used as code by white nationalists who want to build a new racist paradise.

Ask the natives how they would feel if Africans and Asians were relocated to their reserves? Would we call them racists for wanting to protect their own community? Why didn't we ask the reserves to take hundreds of Syrian Refugees?

If it's whites are too be blamed, lets blame natives for not wanting multiculturalism in their reserves.

Why is nationalism only a crime, if it comes for White people?

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3 minutes ago, Robert Greene said:

1. Ask the natives how they would feel if Africans and Asians were relocated to their reserves? Would we call them racists for wanting to protect their own community? Why didn't we ask the reserves to take hundreds of Syrian Refugees?

2. If it's whites are too be blamed, lets blame natives for not wanting multiculturalism in their reserves.

1. Are you really comparing the rest of Canada to reserves ?  You're taking some of the worst examples of Canadian society and saying we should all be like that ?

2. They can do what they want.  Nobody is going to listen to your ideas and Gumby like stretches of logic aren't going to make people like you.

 

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9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Are you really comparing the rest of Canada to reserves ?  You're taking some of the worst examples of Canadian society and saying we should all be like that ?

2. They can do what they want.  Nobody is going to listen to your ideas and Gumby like stretches of logic aren't going to make people like you.

 

How do you do feel being the only white person in a walmart?

Why doesn't Japan bring in more Muslim Refugees, 

Why doesn't Mexico bring in more Chinese Immigrants?

 

Why is multiculturalism expected from European Countries, but not expected from Africans and Asians? 

Maybe Toronto wants to remain majority white, just like Tokyo wants to remains majority Japanese.

Unlike white supremacists, We don't wish harm on other races, we're just sick and tired of the mass-displacement of our own race.

 

We want to remain white in our own areas, just like Natives want to remain native in their own reserves. 

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27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are white supremacists, it's the same garbage and nobody with a brain falls prey to this cracked logic.

Kudos to you for pinning this guys ears back. 

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