John Otis Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) Despite all the evils they have done and the coups that they have staged and the evil dictators they have supported.... why hasn't itself suffered through any of those? I'm talking about coups and dictatorships: Where hundreds if not thousands die during the coup, Where after the coup, any political rivals will be murdered along with their families, Where any activists, journalists, protesters or armed rebels or any who are against the regime in anyway will be murdered along with their families, Where businesses and properties are plundered by the regime and extreme corruption rules the land, Where there is only one supreme leader who can do anything he/she wants and can stay in power forever and give this power to his/her heir and the people won't be able to do anything about it, otherwise they will be murdered along with their families. That kind can of coup and dictatorship. So, why are other nations susceptible to this but not America despite all of the terrible things it has done? And why hasn't Canada and the rest of the world staged one for it to avenge those suffered through one? Edited March 31, 2019 by John Otis Quote
Shady Posted March 31, 2019 Report Posted March 31, 2019 They have experienced a dictatorship. They fought a war of independence to get their freedom. Quote
John Otis Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Posted April 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Truth Detector said: They have experienced a dictatorship. They fought a war of independence to get their freedom. No no, I mean after independence. And why hasn't Canada and the world staged a coup and put in a ruthless dictator in for them, someone like Pol Pot? Quote
Owly Posted April 1, 2019 Report Posted April 1, 2019 11 hours ago, John Otis said: No no, I mean after independence. And why hasn't Canada and the world staged a coup and put in a ruthless dictator in for them, someone like Pol Pot? According to Trump the ~3 million popular votes he lost by in 2016 were illegally cast by Canadians visiting the US so apparently he at least believes we tried what you've suggested. Quote
Shady Posted April 1, 2019 Report Posted April 1, 2019 12 hours ago, John Otis said: No no, I mean after independence. And why hasn't Canada and the world staged a coup and put in a ruthless dictator in for them, someone like Pol Pot? You'd need to conquer them first. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 2, 2019 Report Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 6:26 PM, John Otis said: Despite all the evils they have done and the coups that they have staged and the evil dictators they have supported.... why hasn't itself suffered through any of those? I'm talking about coups and dictatorships: Where hundreds if not thousands die during the coup, Where after the coup, any political rivals will be murdered along with their families, Where any activists, journalists, protesters or armed rebels or any who are against the regime in anyway will be murdered along with their families, Where businesses and properties are plundered by the regime and extreme corruption rules the land, Where there is only one supreme leader who can do anything he/she wants and can stay in power forever and give this power to his/her heir and the people won't be able to do anything about it, otherwise they will be murdered along with their families. That kind can of coup and dictatorship. So, why are other nations susceptible to this but not America despite all of the terrible things it has done? And why hasn't Canada and the rest of the world staged one for it to avenge those suffered through one? John Otis - your post boils down to "why don't people kill more evil Americans?" That's like Americans saying "Why doesn't someone kill that evil John Otis? He's advocating violence against us!" Is that a fair question for Americans to ask? What terrible things has America done? They were the most powerful country on earth for 70 years, did they go around conquering like other dynasties of the past? Fighting communism might sound evil to you, but then you don't know how many people the communists in China killed in their own country in a couple decades of the 20th century - ten times as many people as the US killed in all their wars put together. If you think America is evil you have literally no clue how many people died by the sword or were forced into slavery between 650 ad and 2018 by islamists. War deaths at the hands of America are a drop in the bucket by comparison. Was fighting against Nazis a bad thing? How many Americans died fighting for freedom in Europe? South Korea? Japan and Germany were America's enemies in WWII, killed tens of thousands of Americans. Both of those countries benefit greatly from their relationship with the US. Literally any country on earth that respects the rights of their own citizens and doesn't make war on other countries can get along fine with the US. Do you think Iran would be so aweesome with that level of power? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
John Otis Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Posted April 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Owly said: According to Trump the ~3 million popular votes he lost by in 2016 were illegally cast by Canadians visiting the US so apparently he at least believes we tried what you've suggested. Why do you always have to give me BS answers to legitimate questions? If Canada lost a battle in WW2, would you have said "well, we tried... let's go home"? Let me ask you this.... do you believe the world would be better off without the US, yes or no? Quote
John Otis Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: What terrible things has America done? According to a lot of sites, there's a lot. Quote
John Otis Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: ...... did they go around conquering like other dynasties of the past? According to a lot of sites, yes.... including Owly over here. Quote
Owly Posted April 2, 2019 Report Posted April 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, John Otis said: Why do you always have to give me BS answers to legitimate questions? If Canada lost a battle in WW2, would you have said "well, we tried... let's go home"? Let me ask you this.... do you believe the world would be better off without the US, yes or no? BS questions Yep Nope. Quote
John Otis Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Posted April 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Owly said: Yep So Canada just got lucky that it didn't lose a battle otherwise the canuck military would have packed up and left, is that what you are saying? Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 2, 2019 Report Posted April 2, 2019 8 hours ago, John Otis said: According to a lot of sites, there's a lot. If Iran had the power that America has would things be much worse? Of course it would. Otis, just remember how bad things have been when other nations had power, or other cultures, and compare the US to them. Don't compare the US to countries that are peaceful just because they don't have large enough armies to rip the world a new one. If a rat decides not to try to eat a lion that doesn't make it a pacifist. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted April 2, 2019 Report Posted April 2, 2019 9 hours ago, John Otis said: According to a lot of sites, yes.... including Owly over here. There are sites that will characterize Americans as bad because of something that 20 people did in 1863, while at the same time they refuse to talk about what islamic state is doing right now. You need to be able to keep things in perspective. I could take 5 actions that any person made in their lifetimes and characterize them as horrible people if I merely ignore all the good things they did. Just zone in on their worst few moments, it's super easy to make them look like crap. On June 11th 2007 person x yelled at their kid, and then on April 4th 2016 they drove 35 miles over the speed limit. Etc, etc.... Don't say why those things happened and just ignore all the volunteer work a person did, how much they helped the old lady who lives beside them, etc. That's what you're doing with America. Great rule of thumb - the only true judge of a man's (nation's) character is what they do when they're in a position of power. America has been a country for 240 years, they abolished slavery 150 years ago so it works out to about 90 out of 250 years. Islam had legal slavery for every single minute of every single day that they were powerful enough to do so, that's about 1,301 years out of 1,301 years. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Carlus Magnus Posted May 10, 2019 Report Posted May 10, 2019 As far as examples of Global superpowers, America is pretty mild, mere pussies historically. Look what the Persians, Romans, Muslims, Mongols, Spanish did to other nations when they were superpowers. Hell, look at the British Empire in it's conquests. You should wake up every day and thank god, gaea, the moon and stars that you are able to be living in an US hegemonic state rather than living under one of those other empires. Quote
eyeball Posted May 10, 2019 Report Posted May 10, 2019 On 3/31/2019 at 10:36 PM, John Otis said: No no, I mean after independence. And why hasn't Canada and the world staged a coup and put in a ruthless dictator in for them, someone like Pol Pot? Because Americans are quite capable of electing their dictators. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Carlus Magnus Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 I'm pretty sure to Mid 19th C Southerners the Election of Lincoln looked like a coup and a dictator. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 America made me wealthy. Land speculation in America has raised me from the trailer park to the landed gentry. God bless America. God bless George W. Bush too, for repealing the inheritance tax. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 In terms of Canada suffering defeats in the Second World War, Canada of course suffered two brutal and humiliating defeats, at Hong Kong in 1941, and Dieppe in 1942. In both cases the lickspittle crony Canadian government served the Canadian troops up as cannon fodder to try to suck up to the British and Americans because that's what Canada does. Quote
Altai Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 US is a dictatorship. Its ruled by Pentagon so army and money barons so families. They put the candidates in front of you to choose one. For example Trump was the candidate of money barons at the beginning and Hillary was candidate of Pentagon. This is why Pentagon hates Trump. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Dougie93 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Altai said: US is a dictatorship. Its ruled by Pentagon so army and money barons so families. They put the candidates in front of you to choose one. For example Trump was the candidate of money barons at the beginning and Hillary was candidate of Pentagon. This is why Pentagon hates Trump. And Canada is a lickspittle crony to all that because it makes Canadians far more wealthy than they would be if they had to face real competition as a failed state Confederation. Quote
Mike Otkins Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 4:18 AM, Altai said: US is a dictatorship. So that means that the US government is thus evil and should be destroyed!? Okay ma'am, so why doesn't the US population fight it? Why doesn't Anatolia do it? And why hasn't the US population been murdered left and right like what Pol Pot or Ibi Amin did to their people? And please ma'am don't just run off, answer my questions! Quote
Mike Otkins Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 3:23 AM, Dougie93 said: America made me wealthy. OH!!!! No wonder you are so pro-US. Quote
Mike Otkins Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 3:48 AM, eyeball said: Because Americans are quite capable of electing their dictators. But why hasn't their dictators murdered them like what Pol Pot and Idi Amin did to their people? Quote
eyeball Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike Otkins said: But why hasn't their dictators murdered them like what Pol Pot and Idi Amin did to their people? I don't know. Why do you think they haven't? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jacee Posted May 18, 2019 Report Posted May 18, 2019 On 4/1/2019 at 9:52 PM, WestCanMan said: What terrible things has America done? They were the most powerful country on earth for 70 years, did they go around conquering like other dynasties of the past Yes. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-perkins-new-confessi_b_11203198 Leaders who refused to cooperate with such plans would be picked off by CIA-supported "jackals". Thus the overthrow of Mohammad Mosaddegh in Iran (1953); the Jacobo Árbenz coup in Guatemala (1954); the Salvador Allende coup and murder in Chile (1973); the mysterious airplane explosions that killed Jaime Roldós in Ecuador and Omar Torrijos in Panama (1981); the overthrow and murder of Maurice Bishop in Grenada (1983); the bloody invasion and capture of Manuel Noriega in Panama (1989). Somehow Fidel Castro in Cuba successfully dodged dozens of assassination attempts. And now Venezuela. Quote
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