bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Argus said: The worst thing about Trump is that he undermines the security of the West in general, as well as the U.S. in particular. ...but still far more effective and relevant than NATO deadbeats like Canada. Like Brexit, Trump has energized nationalism over globalism, regardless of race, and that is a good thing. Economics trumps Virtue.
egghead Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Realitycheck said: The UN is a cesspool of corruption. If it fell into the river with all the representatives in-house, well it would be a good start. I blame this on the leftist
Shady Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, egghead said: What is wrong leaving the un? Do you know who is the chairman of the un's human group? I think it’s Iran right now.
egghead Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Owly said: And that sounds like a lot of fluff to try to deflect from the fact that Trump's actions failed, in this case regarding NK. We all know he will lie to try and cover up for it. Don't be stupid; taking NK away from China is a big step. As I metioned before, we saw no funny business from NK yet. US needs to find a way to have NK and SK coexisting, and that is not an easy task. Edited April 6, 2019 by egghead
Argus Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: ...but still far more effective and relevant than NATO deadbeats like Canada. Like Brexit, Trump has energized nationalism over globalism, regardless of race, and that is a good thing. He has energized stupid over smart, and ignorance over knowledge. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Owly Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, egghead said: Don't be stupid; taking NK away from China is a big step. As I metioned before, we saw no funny business from NK. US needs to find a way to have NK and SK coexisting, and that is not an easy task. Trump came home from his first "love in" with Kim and tweeted out that "NK poses no more nuclear threat". Sat photos not long after show construction and revamping of missile sites carries right along. There's your "funny business" although I wouldn't call it that.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, Argus said: He has energized stupid over smart, and ignorance over knowledge. Trump is still far more important and relevant on the world stage than the impotent dolt that is the current PM of Canada. Far right groups in Canada look to Trump, not anything in Canada, where their freedom of expression rights can be legally suppressed. Canada wants more globalism, immigration, refugees, and "human rights" imperialism, all while losing even more respect and relevance. Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is still far more important and relevant on the world stage than the impotent dolt that is the current PM of Canada. Is he really? Do they let him do anything but play with the remote there in the White House? 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Far right groups in Canada look to Trump, not anything in Canada, where their freedom of expression rights can be legally suppressed. They look to Trump as someone of the same intellectual level. 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada wants more globalism, immigration, refugees, and "human rights" imperialism, all while losing even more respect and relevance. No, we really don't. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Owly Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is still far more important and relevant on the world stage than the impotent dolt that is the current PM of Canada. Far right groups in Canada look to Trump, not anything in Canada, where their freedom of expression rights can be legally suppressed. Canada wants more globalism, immigration, refugees, and "human rights" imperialism, all while losing even more respect and relevance. And Trump seems to want to close all the borders so he can create his pasty white society his type of bigotry can only be comfortable with. And of course he more "relevant" when he gets on stage with dictators like kim, vladi, mbs. He now pretty much gets dismissed/laughed at when on stage with historical allies. 1
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 Just now, Argus said: Is he really? Do they let him do anything but play with the remote there in the White House? They look to Trump as someone of the same intellectual level. No, we really don't. Trump is doing exactly what he was elected to do....disrupt the status quo. Trump / USA will still always matter more on the world stage that the smartest PM / Canada, and right now you have one of the dumbest ones ever. Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 Must be another "far right" group in Canada....for President Donald Trump...leader of a foreign country: https://www.facebook.com/CanadiansForDonaldTrump/ Economics trumps Virtue.
Owly Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump is doing exactly what he was elected to do....disrupt the status quo. Trump / USA will still always matter more on the world stage that the smartest PM / Canada, and right now you have one of the dumbest ones ever. I think there is a difference between disrupting status quo and causing havoc, which it seems what he has done so far. And why do you worship a man who lies so constantly?
Realitycheck Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Owly said: I think there is a difference between disrupting status quo and causing havoc, which it seems what he has done so far. And why do you worship a man who lies so constantly? One might be forgiven for considering a person who admires someone who is a deadbeat, serial bankrupt, serial sexual criminal, racist, ignorant to the point of sheer stupidity, compulsive liar and just generally a despicable person, to be the same sort of person.
eyeball Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: "Far right" does not automatically equal white supremacist group SoO Canada is a nationalist group not affiliated with European groups of the same name. The issue isn't even about colour the real issue is the desire for supremacy. I suspect this desire stems from simple fear and conservatives are just naturally more reactionary and aggressive when they feel threatened or fearful. Soo...its no wonder ordinary run-of-the-mill conservatives have little issue with their supremacist cousins, be they racial, religious, political, or nationalist - they're all equally primitive for the same reason. Clearly it would have been brave little progressive monkeys that led our species out of the trees - probably just to get away from the fearful screeching forever coming down from on high. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: The issue isn't even about colour the real issue is the desire for supremacy. I suspect this desire stems from simple fear and conservatives are just naturally more reactionary and aggressive when they feel threatened or fearful. No more than triggered "progressives", afraid that their collectivist ideology will not prevail after all. Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: The issue isn't even about colour the real issue is the desire for supremacy. I suspect this desire stems from simple fear and conservatives are just naturally more reactionary and aggressive when they feel threatened or fearful. No more than triggered "progressives", afraid that their collectivist ideology will not prevail after all. 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump / USA will still always matter more on the world stage that the smartest PM / Canada, and right now you have one of the dumbest ones ever. He said supremely. The fact we have the dumbest PM has nothing to do with it. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 Just one example of Trump's impact on the Canadian political landscape and psyche, without even trying hard. Canadian media invented a term for this dominance from a foreign country...."Trumpian". Quote Trudeau’s failure to implement change will also have consequences. Voters initially enticed by Trudeau’s 2015 promise to tackle Canada’s socioeconomic divisions may now justifiably look elsewhere for change. And since the Liberals have now associated socially liberal values with broken promises and elitist opacity, any cause with a progressive ethos may be regarded with deep suspicion. In Betraying Canada’s Left Voters, Justin Mimics His Dad Granted, it’s improbable that a Trump-like figure will appear in Canada, and that kind of hysterical prophecy isn’t what is being pondered here. Rather, Trudeau has set the stage for the anti-immigrant, anti-progressive and pro-business right to infiltrate the mainstream and turn politics to the right. That process is already underway. Conservative leader Andrew Scheer seems quite comfortable with personalities associated with Rebel Media, while his advocacy of tax cuts for corporations certainly will not empower Canada’s have-nots. Scheer’s penchant for mockery, coupled with his socially conservative stance and personal convictions, indicates he is taking his cues from the new American right. https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2019/01/22/Trudeau-Radical-Right-Flourish/ Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No more than triggered "progressives", afraid that their collectivist ideology will not prevail after all. Except it is prevailing - as evidenced by the increasing reaction to it. Cause and effect. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Owly Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Realitycheck said: One might be forgiven for considering a person who admires someone who is a deadbeat, serial bankrupt, serial sexual criminal, racist, ignorant to the point of sheer stupidity, compulsive liar and just generally a despicable person, to be the same sort of person. How does that old saying go..."birds of a feather" 1
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: He said supremely. The fact we have the dumbest PM has nothing to do with it. Has plenty to do with giving oxygen and support to "far right" groups, who are stoking a surge in Canadian nationalism....it's so cute to watch ! 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
Realitycheck Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No more than triggered "progressives", afraid that their collectivist ideology will not prevail after all. Far better to be a progressive than a regressive, which defines conservatives to a "T".
Realitycheck Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Just one example of Trump's impact on the Canadian political landscape and psyche, without even trying hard. Canadian media invented a term for this dominance from a foreign country...."Trumpian". Scheer and his base are very much US style Repugnican conservatives. Like Trump, he appeals to very ignorant, very racist people. So does Kenny who will likely be the next Premier of Alberta and the new alberta flag will feature red necks and pointy white hats.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Realitycheck said: Scheer and his base are very much US style Repugnican conservatives. Like Trump, he appeals to very ignorant, very racist people. So does Kenny who will likely be the next Premier of Alberta and the new alberta flag will feature red necks and pointy white hats. That's OK...the rest of the world won't be staying up late to find out. But they will be watching U.S. politics...especially eyeballs in Canada. 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
Owly Posted April 6, 2019 Report Posted April 6, 2019 If Trump is so "important" on the "world stage", I wonder how come he gets pushed artound by the likes of his "buddy" fat kim. After a summit in Singapore with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un last summer, President Donald Trump tweeted that “there is no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea.” The enthusiasm proved premature. Diplomatic progress between the two countries slowed throughout the fall, and North Korea continued many of its activities as usual, including advancing its nuclear weapons research and improving some missile bases, according to experts. As he heads to a second summit in Vietnam this week, Trump has continued to lavish praise on Kim, but he has dialed down some of the claims. Other U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, have said they hope to achieve more “real demonstrable, verifiable” steps this time around. http://time.com/5537298/north-korea-summit-nuclear-program/
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