Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: I don't have the burden of proof on this one RC, nice try. You guys do, and you're not coming through, as I've explained to you before. You guys are mischaracterizing the seriousness this issue.... exaggerating the magnitude of it in comparison with threats that we all know are far more imminent. We don't have airport security because of Pediga. We don't have cement barricades at Christmas Villages because of Neo Nazis. Etc, etc, etc. Security at mosques around the world isn't as big of an issue as security at churches and synagogues has been for quite some time. None of the attacks on churches and synagogues were committed by atheists. You are desperately trying to play down the facts conservatives are a hate-filled group of women hating racists. IE: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2018/11/ohio-considers-total-ban-on-abortion-and-death-penalty-for-women-or-doctors-found-guilty/?fbclid=IwAR0EVfLuPKBuxdKvf3AGTLIiUMR1MUzWGTMSpEwNqnQAWGWCxqV-aV9HBJc It is no-ones business what a woman does with her body. Not yours, not governments and certainly not the purveyors of primitive superstitious beliefs.
Argus Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Realitycheck said: ...and all you have is denial and deflection. All white power groups here and in the US are peopled by fundamentalist xians...conservatives IOW. Name these 'white power groups' in Canada. Edited April 7, 2019 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, jacee said: My mistake. Sorry. Deleted. Thank you. 1
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Argus said: There are no white power groups in Canada. Oh no? Canada[edit] Aryan Guard, was founded in late 2006 but did not gain any media attention until 2007 when members began a flier campaign targeting immigrants. Some of these flyers had been surreptitiously placed in the free Calgary arts and culture newspaper, "Fast Forward" by Aryan Guard members. The Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies suspect that the individual responsible for the fliers may be Bill Noble, a neo-Nazi well known to law enforcement for his online racist activism and who has been in the past charged under Section 319 of the Canadian Criminal Code for wilful promotion of hatred. The Aryan Guard's website is also registered in Noble's name.[58][59] Canadian Heritage Alliance, is a Canadian white supremacist group founded in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario.[60][61] Detective Terry Murphy of London's Hate Crime Unit alleged that the group had links with the Heritage Front and the Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge-based Tri-City Skins.[62] Heritage Front, was a Canadian neo-Nazi[63] white supremacist organization founded in 1989 and disbanded around 2005.[64] Ku Klux Klan, active in parts of Canada in the 1920s and early 1930s.[65] National Socialist Party of Canada, is a neo-Nazi party founded in 2006 by Terry Tremaine. The party uses a flag featuring a red swastika on a field of blue.[66] Tri-City Skins, was an Ontario-based white power group active from 1997 to 2002 in the Kitchener-Waterloo and Cambridge area. James Scott Richardson was the group's most visible member, and in October 2001, police believed that Tri-City Skins had 25 members in southwestern Ontario.[67][68] Western Canada for Us, was a short-lived Alberta-based white nationalist group founded by Glenn Bahr and Peter Kouba in early 2004.[69] Western Guard Party, (founded in 1972 as the Western Guard) was a white supremacist group based in Toronto, Canada. It evolved out of the far-right anti-Communist Edmund Burke Society that had been founded in 1967 by Don Andrews, Paul Fromm, Leigh Smith and Al Overfield. The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, is an alleged branch of the KKK operating in Chilliwack, BC. In July 2017, a group claiming to be from the organization flyers lawns across the city.[70] Furthermore, there is an active group of racists in the Fraser Valley-BC's bible belt and another, related but smaller group, in Salmon Arm. Maybe offshoots of the KKK, or maybe just local religious nuts.
WestCanMan Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Realitycheck said: None of the attacks on churches and synagogues were committed by atheists. You are desperately trying to play down the facts conservatives are a hate-filled group of women hating racists. IE: http://churchandstate.org.uk/2018/11/ohio-considers-total-ban-on-abortion-and-death-penalty-for-women-or-doctors-found-guilty/?fbclid=IwAR0EVfLuPKBuxdKvf3AGTLIiUMR1MUzWGTMSpEwNqnQAWGWCxqV-aV9HBJc It is no-ones business what a woman does with her body. Not yours, not governments and certainly not the purveyors of primitive superstitious beliefs. I'm not even sure what you're talking about here, you must be replying to someone else. Quote You are desperately trying to play down the facts conservatives are a hate-filled group of women hating racists. That's just a new level of stupid right there. So whacked. LMAO. 1 If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Realitycheck said: Oh no? Canada[edit] Aryan Guard, was founded in late 2006 but did not gain any media attention until 2007 when members began a flier campaign targeting immigrants. Some of these flyers had been surreptitiously placed in the free Calgary arts and culture newspaper, "Fast Forward" by Aryan Guard members. The Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies suspect that the individual responsible for the fliers may be Bill Noble, a neo-Nazi well known to law enforcement for his online racist activism and who has been in the past charged under Section 319 of the Canadian Criminal Code for wilful promotion of hatred. The Aryan Guard's website is also registered in Noble's name.[58][59] Canadian Heritage Alliance, is a Canadian white supremacist group founded in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario.[60][61] Detective Terry Murphy of London's Hate Crime Unit alleged that the group had links with the Heritage Front and the Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge-based Tri-City Skins.[62] Heritage Front, was a Canadian neo-Nazi[63] white supremacist organization founded in 1989 and disbanded around 2005.[64] Ku Klux Klan, active in parts of Canada in the 1920s and early 1930s.[65] National Socialist Party of Canada, is a neo-Nazi party founded in 2006 by Terry Tremaine. The party uses a flag featuring a red swastika on a field of blue.[66] Tri-City Skins, was an Ontario-based white power group active from 1997 to 2002 in the Kitchener-Waterloo and Cambridge area. James Scott Richardson was the group's most visible member, and in October 2001, police believed that Tri-City Skins had 25 members in southwestern Ontario.[67][68] Western Canada for Us, was a short-lived Alberta-based white nationalist group founded by Glenn Bahr and Peter Kouba in early 2004.[69] Western Guard Party, (founded in 1972 as the Western Guard) was a white supremacist group based in Toronto, Canada. It evolved out of the far-right anti-Communist Edmund Burke Society that had been founded in 1967 by Don Andrews, Paul Fromm, Leigh Smith and Al Overfield. The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, is an alleged branch of the KKK operating in Chilliwack, BC. In July 2017, a group claiming to be from the organization flyers lawns across the city.[70] Furthermore, there is an active group of racists in the Fraser Valley-BC's bible belt and another, related but smaller group, in Salmon Arm. Maybe offshoots of the KKK, or maybe just local religious nuts. Blah, blah, blah. What's the total membersip of all those groups put together? How many attacks have they all committed? You're tlking about a bunch of very small fringe groups from as far back as 100 years ago. Get a grip RC. I don't want to have to keep saying "new level of stupid" to everything you post. 2 If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 Just now, WestCanMan said: Blah, blah, blah. What's the total membersip of all those groups put together? How many attacks have they all committed? You're tlking about a bunch of very small fringe groups from as far back as 100 years ago. Get a grip RC. I don't want to have to keep saying "new level of stupid" to everything you post. Your inability to understand or accept reality is not my my problem. "The Aryan Guard is a neo-Nazi group based in Alberta, Canada, whose members are primarily located in the city of Calgary.[3] It was founded in late 2006, and was reported to have disbanded in 2009 as a result of internal conflict including pipe bombing attacks.[4]However, late in 2009 the group denied this and claimed it was still operating.[5]", https://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/features/right-wing-extremist-groups-and-hate-crimes-are-growing-in-canada, https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/ev847a/violent-neo-nazi-group-has-disturbing-plans-for-canada, https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/right-wing-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-groups-an-increasing-concern-goodale-1.4255451 Want some more reality?
Yzermandius19 Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Realitycheck said: You are one sick,sad and sorry sod. Those charges sure don't sound consensual to me...but they may to you. https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politics/donald-trump-women-allegations/index.html Innocent before proven guilty, allegations are not proof. Trump's word against their's, and their allegations only came out after he ran for POTUS. Edited April 7, 2019 by Yzermandius19
eyeball Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 2:59 PM, WestCanMan said: The number 1 threat is still islamic terrorism. 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: After 1,400 years of islam being what it is... 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Canadians have unreasonably associated islam with terrorism Do tell. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Innocent before proven guilty, allegations are not proof. Where there is smoke, there is fire. The proof will out as there are court cases in the offing or already started. But perhaps the Mango Mutt will be able to buy them all off? You'd like that. That way the truth would never come out and force you to face reality which seems to be your greatest fear.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Realitycheck said: Where there is smoke, there is fire. The proof will out as there are court cases in the offing or already started. But perhaps the Mango Mutt will be able to buy them all off? You'd like that. That way the truth would never come out and force you to face reality which seems to be your greatest fear. Sometimes when there is little fire that is no big deal, there is still a lot of smoke, that's all it is. Sometime famous people are the victims of false accusations, especially when they go into politics, and the media hates their guts. "Innocent until proven guilty" trumps "where there is smoke there is fire", especially when it comes to the law. If you choose to ignore how clearly politically motivated those accusations are, it's because you are blinded by hatred of Trump, or you believe all accusers, like a complete dolt. Edited April 7, 2019 by Yzermandius19
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Argus said: Came across this the other day. From the Washington Post, suggesting right wing terrorism might actually be on the decline. .................In other words, people are less likely to become violent when they can speak their mind, and when they have political choices. Which flies in the face of the idea that if you 'deplatform' them, and ensure no political parties pay any attention to them, they'll simply go away. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/02/is-right-wing-terrorism-violence-rise/?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.fac9c2fbcf1c I think that is correct. The more people are put down, called names and demeaned, the more they will fight back. It's pretty obvious that the coming election narrative will be that of calling Scheer and all conservatives 'racist' among other things. Anyone with any reasonable point of view but disagrees with a liberal will be smeared, marginalized, put down and called names as we have seen here and what is happening to Scheer, the least racist person you could know. Dehumanizing the opposition, calling them racist, bigot etc. just means that a liberal doesn't have to actually listen to another point of view because the liberal believes he has 'won' with name calling. To be clear, there is absolutely nothing wrong with disagreeing with ILLEGAL migration, or wanting stable controlled immigration of people who are best for Canada, to do otherwise is to continue creating a permanent underclass. There is nothing racist or wrong in wanting Canada to continue to be a successful free country but the P.C. mob continues to use vituperation and vitriol to stifle debate. Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 15 hours ago, jacee said: We have laws. Stick your stinking xenophobic 'values test' up yer rs. As shown here, the PC mob relies on vitriol and name calling rather than reasonable discussion to bolster their lack of critical thinking and not wanting to raise the possibility that immigration is a legitimate issue. 1 Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jacee Posted April 7, 2019 Author Report Posted April 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Realitycheck said: Oh no? Canada[edit] Aryan Guard, was founded in late 2006 but did not gain any media attention until 2007 when members began a flier campaign targeting immigrants. Some of these flyers had been surreptitiously placed in the free Calgary arts and culture newspaper, "Fast Forward" by Aryan Guard members. The Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies suspect that the individual responsible for the fliers may be Bill Noble, a neo-Nazi well known to law enforcement for his online racist activism and who has been in the past charged under Section 319 of the Canadian Criminal Code for wilful promotion of hatred. The Aryan Guard's website is also registered in Noble's name.[58][59] Canadian Heritage Alliance, is a Canadian white supremacist group founded in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario.[60][61] Detective Terry Murphy of London's Hate Crime Unit alleged that the group had links with the Heritage Front and the Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge-based Tri-City Skins.[62] Heritage Front, was a Canadian neo-Nazi[63] white supremacist organization founded in 1989 and disbanded around 2005.[64] Ku Klux Klan, active in parts of Canada in the 1920s and early 1930s.[65] National Socialist Party of Canada, is a neo-Nazi party founded in 2006 by Terry Tremaine. The party uses a flag featuring a red swastika on a field of blue.[66] Tri-City Skins, was an Ontario-based white power group active from 1997 to 2002 in the Kitchener-Waterloo and Cambridge area. James Scott Richardson was the group's most visible member, and in October 2001, police believed that Tri-City Skins had 25 members in southwestern Ontario.[67][68] Western Canada for Us, was a short-lived Alberta-based white nationalist group founded by Glenn Bahr and Peter Kouba in early 2004.[69] Western Guard Party, (founded in 1972 as the Western Guard) was a white supremacist group based in Toronto, Canada. It evolved out of the far-right anti-Communist Edmund Burke Society that had been founded in 1967 by Don Andrews, Paul Fromm, Leigh Smith and Al Overfield. The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, is an alleged branch of the KKK operating in Chilliwack, BC. In July 2017, a group claiming to be from the organization flyers lawns across the city.[70] Furthermore, there is an active group of racists in the Fraser Valley-BC's bible belt and another, related but smaller group, in Salmon Arm. Maybe offshoots of the KKK, or maybe just local religious nuts. Researchers to probe Canada’s evolving far-right movements NEWS Mar 06, 2019 https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9209841-researchers-to-probe-canada-s-evolving-far-right-movements/ "In her 2015 report, co-authored with researcher Ryan Scrivens, Perry suggested there were at least 100 white supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups active in Canada, as well as roughly 30,000 individuals involved with "sovereign citizen" philosophies that typically reject Canadian laws. Perry told the Star last year that, between 2015 and 2018, the number of groups active across the country increased by as much as 25 per cent. But she now says that might have been an overly conservative estimate. "Now that we've started to sort of list the groups and name them … we're getting close to 300 groups," Perry told the Star in an interview, noting that number includes multiple chapters of the same umbrella group." When Doug Ford, Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier etc are cozying up to white supremacists, they multiply.
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, jacee said: Researchers to probe Canada’s evolving far-right movements ......When Doug Ford, Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier etc are cozying up to white supremacists, they multiply. That's a lie, they are not 'cozying up' to white supremacists, but that is now the narrative and will continue no matter how untruthful it is. Martin Collacott whose wife is Asian and is no racist called for stricter scrutiny of immigration applications, a substantial cutback in the number of family class immigrants and other major reforms back around 2002. He said while the Trudeau government placed primary emphasis on the recruitment of skilled immigrants, the Chretien government has given top priority to family class immigrants who are not required to have job skills or competency in either of Canada's official languages; the same seems to be happening today. He also said this, which is happening again today: Given the grave dangers this reckless policy poses for the economic prosperity, domestic tranquillity and national security of Canada, why do we not have a serious debate on immigration reform? The problem is many critics are intimidated as shameless liberals have no compunction about deriding anyone who calls for stricter rules on immigration as a racist. Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Realitycheck said: Oh no? No. White supremacists simply have no "impact" in Canada. Quote Aryan Guard, was founded in late 2006 Disbanded in 2009 Quote Canadian Heritage Alliance, Disbanded Quote Heritage Front Disbanded Quote National Socialist Party of Canada, is a neo-Nazi party founded in 2006 by Terry Tremaine Who appears to be its only member Quote Tri-City Skins Disbanded Quote Western Canada for Us Disbanded Quote Western Guard Party Disbanded Quote The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, is an alleged branch of the KKK operating in Chilliwack, BC. In July 2017, a group claiming to be from the organization flyers lawns across the city. Some guy who distributed flyers. Edited April 7, 2019 by Argus 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 Fair debate on immigration is waiting for those who will engage in it. Never heard of Martin Collacot and the 'Asian wife' but good for him. I have heard of Andrew Scheer, and Faith Goldy also and they recently spoke at the same event. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Argus Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, scribblet said: I think that is correct. The more people are put down, called names and demeaned, the more they will fight back. It's pretty obvious that the coming election narrative will be that of calling Scheer and all conservatives 'racist' among other things. Anyone with any reasonable point of view but disagrees with a liberal will be smeared, marginalized, put down and called names as we have seen here and what is happening to Scheer, the least racist person you could know. What they ought to do is simply own the thing. Racism as an epithet used by the Left merely means conservative these days. It's an all-purpose rebuttal on discussions where the Left is incapable of offering up an intelligent response and so demonstrates their sanctimonious indignation instead. The Tories should simply say we need to do a large-scale study of immigration, what we want from it, what it's doing to Canada both economically and culturally, and what Canadians want. People screaming racism about that are simply making themselves look like fools even in the mainstream press. 1 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Argus said: No. White supremacists simply have no "impact" in Canada. Disbanded in 2009 Disbanded Disbanded Who appears to be its only member Disbanded Disbanded Disbanded Some guy who distributed flyers. Aryan guard claims it is still operational. Crosses have been burned in Salmon Arm. You ignore the other links as it suits you to do.
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Fair debate on immigration is waiting for those who will engage in it. Never heard of Martin Collacot and the 'Asian wife' but good for him. I have heard of Andrew Scheer, and Faith Goldy also and they recently spoke at the same event. Martin Collacot is a former Canadian Ambassador https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/obituary-martin-collacott-was-first-canadian-ambassador-to-cambodia-after-genocide-and-war Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Fair debate on immigration is waiting for those who will engage in it. Never heard of Martin Collacot and the 'Asian wife' but good for him. I have heard of Andrew Scheer, and Faith Goldy also and they recently spoke at the same event. And Omni and I have spoken in the same discussion. Does that mean we are in any way similar? For all the shrieking and howling and agonizing about Scheer 'speaking at the same event' as Faith Goldy I haven't been able to find a single report or picture that they ever met. He spoke on the stage near the parliament hill stairs, while she was outside the bloody gates. I was watching a panel discussion with Douglas Murray who decried this habit of the Left to decry anyone who had even a remote connection with someone whose views they could view unfavorably. As he said (as a conservative) "I"m sitting on a panel with a bloody communist. Does that mean my views on conservative issues are henceforth to be ignored as an associate of Communists, or that hers are because she dared to sit on a stage with me?" 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Realitycheck said: Aryan guard claims it is still operational. Crosses have been burned in Salmon Arm. You ignore the other links as it suits you to do. And have you any evidence they have done a single bloody thing in the last ten years? I couldn't find any in a cursory search. They clearly have no Impact. I responded to every group you mentioned. They don't exist. As for a cross burning in Salmon Arm, that would take one person, but I haven't seen anything on it. Cite, please. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Argus said: What they ought to do is simply own the thing. Racism as an epithet used by the Left merely means conservative these days. It's an all-purpose rebuttal on discussions where the Left is incapable of offering up an intelligent response and so demonstrates their sanctimonious indignation instead. The Tories should simply say we need to do a large-scale study of immigration, what we want from it, what it's doing to Canada both economically and culturally, and what Canadians want. People screaming racism about that are simply making themselves look like fools even in the mainstream press. Fair enough but I don't think they have the cojones to do it because they know what the narrative will be, it's too bad. We know of course that this was always going to be the Liberal re-election strategy --- Sunny ways was just a smokescreen for what will be a very negative campaign with Liberals calling anyone (as usual) a racist for disagreeing with them. Not to mention calling them Nazis as per Butts. Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Realitycheck Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 Just now, Argus said: And have you any evidence they have done a single bloody thing in the last ten years? I couldn't find any in a cursory search. They clearly have no Impact. I responded to every group you mentioned. They don't exist. As for a cross burning in Salmon Arm, that would take one person, but I haven't seen anything on it. Cite, please. They do not have to be bombing abortion clinics to exist. Going underground is their best option and I suspect many have. The cross burning was many years ago and there is a strong, if small, religious white racist group up there
scribblet Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Argus said: And have you any evidence they have done a single bloody thing in the last ten years? I couldn't find any in a cursory search. They clearly have no Impact. I responded to every group you mentioned. They don't exist. As for a cross burning in Salmon Arm, that would take one person, but I haven't seen anything on it. Cite, please. They haven't, but maybe he knows Hedy Fry - you know the one who had crosses burning on her lawn https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/minister-apologizes-for-cross-burning-remarks-1.279168 Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
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