egghead Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Pressure to consider options isn’t illegal. It’s inappropriate. The decision was hers to make, so when she made a bad one, Trudeau shuffled her to another Ministry. He can do that. Acutally, I am surprised to find that it is not illegal. Anyway, JT should back off, then he would pardon (???) SNC later. It is because JT does not want to be the bad guy. Quote
egghead Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Then why did he try so hard to conceal it ? Why didn't Trudeau proudly announce and describe what he and Butts had done to "save Canadian jobs" ? Ya, that was the same ans when someone asked JT about the SNC's $30,000 escorts fees Quote
betsy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cannuck said: In your own words : "bring" jobs, and in second instance "create" and...etc. Are you for real? Corporations create jobs, don't they? They also bring jobs in, don't they? Edited February 28, 2019 by betsy Quote
scribblet Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 Emergency debate this PM but he won't resign and and rumor is they'll announce a universal drug plan and a guaranteed income plan which means he will manage to buy votes with freebies. People prefer freebies to ethics and integrity. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, scribblet said: Emergency debate this PM but he won't resign and and rumor is they'll announce a universal drug plan and a guaranteed income plan which means he will manage to buy votes with freebies. People prefer freebies to ethics and integrity. Agreed...this fiasco will damage Trudeau's brand but it will not bring him down. Sales for "Rule of Law" bumper stickers will be down. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
BubberMiley Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Argus said: I expect the government to enforce the law without regard to how that impacts their political fortunes. DPAs fall under the Criminal Code of Canada. That is the law. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
egghead Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, betsy said: Are you for real? Corporations create jobs, don't they? They also bring jobs in, don't they? Same as durg cartel, prostitution ring, criminal money management firm .... Quote
PIK Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: No, I expect an MP to stand up for his or her constituents, the SNC workers of Papineau. Then as PM why did he not stand up for the 160,000 oil workers in alberta that lost everything. ? The left wing seems to have forgotten about them. Edited February 28, 2019 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
betsy Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, egghead said: Same as durg cartel, prostitution ring, criminal money management firm .... ....and Trudeau will put corporations above the law! As long as it helps him! Edited February 28, 2019 by betsy Quote
PIK Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Agreed...this fiasco will damage Trudeau's brand but it will not bring him down. Sales for "Rule of Law" bumper stickers will be down. This could, plus we have the admirals cases coming up next and that could very well be another political interference case. That one goes right into the election. And this affects the east coast. Plus the pot heads have legal weed, they will not be showing up. And women are very upset ,now that they know they were used by the great feminist PM. And once all the dumb trudeau quotes start coming out ,to remind people he hates all canadians. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
BubberMiley Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, betsy said: ....and Trudeau will put corporations above the law! As long as it helps him! Are you aware that DPAs are covered under the Criminal Code of Canada (i.e., the law)? And did you know a politician working to help his constituents has traditionally been considered a good thing? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Zeitgeist Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 I just hope we get another sunny ways parade through Ottawa with MP’s on unicorns. Quote
egghead Posted February 28, 2019 Report Posted February 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, PIK said: Then as PM why did he not stand up for the 160,000 oil workers in alberta that lost everything. ? The left wing seems to have forgotten about them. For him, BC and Alb are lost causes now. He needs Que / Ont for second term. Any MP / PM who has a sound mind will distance himself / herself from that company. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, egghead said: For him, BC and Alb are lost causes now. He needs Que / Ont for second term. Any MP / PM who has a sound mind will distance himself / herself from that company. Trudeau has tried to dig in supporting Alberta, but he’s up against BC eco warriors, the new Luddites, who are shutting down resource development and work itself. Pipelines and corporations are being thwarted in BC and Quebec. JWR’s jurists are attempting to usurp Trudeau’s populists and throw the book at business. Quote
Argus Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 5 hours ago, BubberMiley said: DPAs fall under the Criminal Code of Canada. That is the law. Trying to force the prosecution to change their decision on a criminal case is obstruction of justice. That's the law too. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Trudeau has tried to dig in supporting Alberta, but he’s up against BC eco warriors, the new Luddites, who are shutting down resource development and work itself. Pipelines and corporations are being thwarted in BC and Quebec. Trudeau is a new Luddite. Those are his allies. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, egghead said: For him, BC and Alb are lost causes now. He needs Que / Ont for second term. Any MP / PM who has a sound mind will distance himself / herself from that company. BC is certainly not a lost cause. That's why he is holding up the pipelines. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Zeitgeist Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, Argus said: Trudeau is a new Luddite. Those are his allies. Trudeau is just trying to have it both ways, supporting resource development and battling climate change at the same time. I agree with walking that line. But can he deliver on resources and the environment? Can he deliver on one of those things? Quote
scribblet Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 5 attorneys general have written to the rcmp asking for a criminal investigation Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Zeitgeist Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, scribblet said: 5 attorneys general have written to the rcmp asking for a criminal investigation Four of them were Conservative and one NDP. Nevertheless the Liberals are in trouble. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Echoes of Paul Martin as PM and the sponsorship scandal. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 Some of the Liberal MPs are digging a bigger hole by insisting on rationalizing corruption and obstruction to save jobs, as if saving jobs trumps the law. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Some of the Liberal MPs are digging a bigger hole by insisting on rationalizing corruption and obstruction to save jobs, as if saving jobs trumps the law. You know as well as I do that the premise of DPA’s is that many innocent workers shouldn’t suffer because of the corrupt actions of a few. Butts has asked to testify and he has been granted permission. All 11 implicated should have a chance to say their peace. While I think they’re all scoundrels, I’m undecided as to who is worse, Trudeau and his minions for applying pressure to the Justice Minister or the minister herself for not seeking the remediation of a DPA. SNC will either fold or move its head office out of Canada because of this mismanagement. So who is worse, Wilson-Raybould for her pride and ideological opposition to DPA’s or Trudeau for pressuring and shuffling out Wilson-Raybould because he didn’t like her refusal to pursue a DPA for SNC? Because this is mostly about opinion, I think JT will survive as leader unless the Liberals lose the election, very possible now. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: You know as well as I do that the premise of DPA’s is that many innocent workers shouldn’t suffer because of the corrupt actions of a few. That isn't the issue here....the issue is direct interference with and the obstruction of justice. This government will not fall...yet. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That isn't the issue here....the issue is direct interference with and the obstruction of justice. This government will not fall...yet. Whether he did or did not is something for him to worry about. Wilson-Raybould said he didn’t break the law. Scheer has asked the RCMP to investigate along with the five former AG’s. The RCMP isn’t confirming or denying whether they are investigating, so maybe they are. I still care more about the thousands of workers who may lose their jobs at SNC. I’m sure you’re licking your chops at snapping up those head offices in the US. The other business is entertaining, but the public will decide the fate of these 11 players at the next election. Couldn’t care less really. Another political scandal. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Edited March 1, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I still care more about the thousands of workers who may lose their jobs at SNC. I’m sure you’re licking your chops at snapping up those head offices in the US. No, I don't care what happens to SNC...a few thousand jobs means a lot more in Canada than in the U.S. I am not moved by the jobs argument because of other domestic policy issues and decisions that have/will have a much greater impact on Canadian jobs, and not just for Quebec favourite SNC-Lavalin. I agree that it is very fun to watch Trudeau and his band of sleaze twist in the wind. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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