Boges Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, taxme said: Are you one of those people who still believe in leftist liberal polls? Some people's kids. The bubble is fun eh? All bad news is part of the Liberal/Deep State plot. If the polling was fake then Trump wouldn't have just folded like he had 7-3. Quote
Boges Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Only six incumbent POTUS's who choose to run for a second term, lost that re-election bid, and all of them lost to a POTUS who would serve two-terms. 1828 - Andrew Jackson def. John Quincy Adams 1868 - Ulysses S. Grant def. Andrew Johnson 1888 - Grover Cleveland def. Benjamin Harrison 1912 - Woodrow Wilson def. William H. Taft 1980 - Ronald Reagan def. Jimmy Carter 1992 - Bill Clinton def. George H.W. Bush The DNC doesn't have two-term POTUS waiting in the wings to knock off Incumbent Trump, they are screwed. And you can make that prediction today. I'm sure you'd have thought the same about Obama is 2007. Also Carter beat Ford, though Ford was never elected President. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Boges said: The bubble is fun eh? All bad news is part of the Liberal/Deep State plot. If the polling was fake then Trump wouldn't have just folded like he had 7-3. What do you think of the CNN crew coming right 1 hour just before the FBI raid? Tell me? Is it that CNN had hackers at the FBI who could read the FBI encrypted signals? Or is it that the FBI informed CNN? Which seems more probable? 1 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Ford was never elected, like you say. Obama had the same advantage in 2012 that Trump will have in 2020, the opposition party had no bench, and had no two-term POTUS waiting in the wings to unseat him, and the one they did have, kept his powder dry until he was running against a non-incumbent. Trump has the same advantages in 2020 and will win for pretty the same reasons that Obama won in 2012, the opposition will run a donkey candidate who can't win and any potential two-term Democrat POTUS will keep their powder dry until 2024, instead of running against an incumbent. This dynamic is why incumbent POTUS's so rarely lose elections. Edited January 25, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Ford was never elected, like you say. Obama had the same advantagein 2012 that Trump will have in 2020, the opposition party had no bench, and had no two-term POTUS waiting in the wings to unseat him, and the one they did have, kept his powder dry until he was running against a non-incumbent. Trump has the same advantages in 2020 and will win for pretty the same reasons that Obama won in 2012, the opposition will run a donkey candidate who can't win and any potential two-term Democrat POTUS will keep their powder dry until 2024. This dynamic is why incumbent POTUS's so rarely lose elections. The Demmies have already missed the window, the SCOTUS is already taken, I suppose they could have Mike Pence and the GOP senate pick the replacement for RBG, but I don't think the lefties are going to like what they get there neither. <snickers> Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 The FBI has an obvious bias against people who break the law. Deep State! Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
taxme Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Boges said: The bubble is fun eh? All bad news is part of the Liberal/Deep State plot. If the polling was fake then Trump wouldn't have just folded like he had 7-3. The demoncrat bubble will burst it's leftist bubble one day. It is all just a matter of time. All the demoncrats have is Ortez or hands on women Biden. Wow, what a woman. Ha-ha. Trump will destroy her during the elections. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, taxme said: The demoncrat bubble will burst it's leftist bubble one day. It is all just a matter of time. All the demoncrats have is Ortez or hands on women Biden. Wow, what a woman. Ha-ha. Trump will destroy her during the elections. OAC is not old enough to run for POTUS, she can't run in 2020. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: The FBI has an obvious bias against people who break the law. Deep State! Near as I can tell, "collusion" is not actually a crime in America, constitutionally protected free speech, a state security arm which asserts that to be a "crime", is asserting a thought crime, which, that's what Deep State security forces do when their perks, prerogatives and control of the Overton Window starts to come under threat from populist rabble rousers. populist rabble rousing also being constitutionally protected free speech. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, Julian Castro, Elizabeth Warren and Tulsi Gabbard are not two-term POTUS material. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the Dems pick in 2020, because the Dems are going to run a donkey, just like the GOP did in 2012 when they ran Romney, just like the DNC did in 2006 when they ran Kerry, just like the GOP did when they ran Dole in 1996, just like the DNC did in 1984 when they ran Mondale, just like the DNC did in 1972 when they ran McGovern, etc. etc. Edited January 25, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Usually it the black panthers, hippies and peaceniks who the J. Edgar Hoover Deep State cracks down upon, but in this case the revolt is coming from the right. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 I mean I get that people are wishful thinking that Trump will lose, but when you look at his potential competition, it's pretty hard to see him losing to any of them. Quote
Jimwd Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, taxme said: Watch Hannity, Tucker and Ingraham on FOX News any night and they will inform you all you need to know about the MSM lies and bull chit. Mueller is a hatchet man for the democratic elite. It's too bad no one has bothered to go after Mueller the democratic enforcer man. The Seth rich ,Benghazi birther guy? He’s going to educate me? How would that happen with no credibility? Edited January 25, 2019 by Jimwd Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: I mean I get that people are wishful thinking that Trump will lose, but when you look at his potential competition, it's pretty hard to see him losing to any of them. Trump smash with ease. Commiecrats already spookin' the masses with all their over the top commie talkin' Impeachment is their only real lever, but I just see that going Clintonian slap on the wrist, as I do not see any prospect of a two thirds super majority vote to remove a President from office. Quote
Jimwd Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Trump smash with ease. Commiecrats already spookin' the masses with all their over the top commie talkin' Impeachment is their only real lever, but I just see that going Clintonian slap on the wrist, as I do not see any prospect of a two thirds super majority vote to remove a President from office. I suspect with all the evidence the probability is trump resigns or is impeached this year. Nancy won’t start impeachment unless she knows senate will convict. When Muellers report comes out senate will not stand behind trump. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 In the end, whether its Ken Starr or Robert Mueller, the purpose of these witch hunts is not really to remove the President from office, it's just a form of obstruction, slow him down, waylay him, try to bring him back in line, deter him, but ultimately, if it gets to trial in the Senate, the Senate is not removing a President from office, they'll just censure him. 1 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Trump smash with ease. Commiecrats already spookin' the masses with all their over the top commie talkin' Impeachment is their only real lever, but I just see that going Clintonian slap on the wrist, as I do not see any prospect of a two thirds super majority vote to remove a President from office. Democrats have no leverage at all, Impeachment is the Obi Wan Kenobi Trap. Obama haters were fairly counter-productive themselves, but Trump haters are putting them to shame and easily surpassing them. Trump most closely resembles Bill Clinton when it comes to his political opposition hurting their own cause. Edited January 25, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jimwd said: I suspect with all the evidence the probability is trump resigns or is impeached this year. Nancy won’t start impeachment unless she knows senate will convict. When Muellers report comes out senate will not stand behind trump. I don't buy that they have a smoking gun for the purposes of getting a two thirds super majority in the Senate to remove the President from office, I don't expect Trump to resign no matter what the trumped up charges, the Trump Show simply goes thermonuclear at that point, he's gonna double down, because even after he's out of office, the Trump brand will carry on, just as Nixonian did. Edited January 25, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote
Jimwd Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't buy that they have a smoking gun for the purposes of getting a two thirds super majority in the Senate to remove the President from office, I don't expect Trump to resign no matter what the trumped up charges, the Trump Show simply goes thermonuclear at that point, he's gonna double down, because even after he's out of office, the Trump brand will carry on, just as Nixonian did. This is what will end trump. His dirty financial connections to Russia, his laundering money for Russians which is why putin controls him. aside from the proof manafort was in close contact with russian intelligence .... thats not even taking into account what Flynn or Cohen have to say. It’s all coming apart for the trump supporters, Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jimwd said: This is what will end trump. His dirty financial connections to Russia, his laundering money for Russians which is why putin controls him. aside from the proof manafort was in close contact with russian intelligence .... thats not even taking into account what Flynn or Cohen have to say. It’s all coming apart for the trump supporters, Wishful thinking, it's all coming apart for the Trump Haters, Bob Mueller has jack shit, same as Ken Starr, you just wish the former had the goods. Edited January 25, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, Jimwd said: This is what will end trump. His dirty financial connections to Russia, his laundering money for Russians which is why putin controls him. aside from the proof manafort was in close contact with russian intelligence .... thats not even taking into account what Flynn or Cohen have to say. It’s all coming apart for the trump supporters, Yeah, like I say, I don't think it will be enough to get the GOP to vote him out in the Senate, they are too scared of the base, and if/when Trump gets impeached, the base is going to rally around him, and cucks are cucks, they don't mess with angry mobs, they succumb to them. Quote
Jimwd Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Wishful thinking, it's all coming apart for the Trump Haters, Bob Mueller has jack shit, same as Ken Starr, you just wish the former had the goods. I don’t wish anything. I simply read the indictments and guilty pleas,, Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Yeah, like I say, I don't think it will be enough to get the GOP to vote him out in the Senate, they are too scared of the base, and if/when Trump gets impeached, the base is going to rally around him, and cucks are cucks, they don't mess with angry mobs, they succumb to them. 66 Senate votes to impeach Trump? Yeah, even if the Democrats had control of the Senate, that is never going to happen. Quote
Jimwd Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Yeah, like I say, I don't think it will be enough to get the GOP to vote him out in the Senate, they are too scared of the base, and if/when Trump gets impeached, the base is going to rally around him, and cucks are cucks, they don't mess with angry mobs, they succumb to them. The base is 35% ...they dont over rule the law. “A government of laws not of men” John Adams Quote
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