The Slow Painful Death of the Trump Administration

[Dougie93]

35 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sure...they get to watch American television and films.     Trump put an end to free Super Bowl® ads...sorry.

I think the data is probably accurate, what is skewed is the terms of reference, in that the lifestyle of the bourgeoisie is generally better than the iron men who stand watch on the walls of the burg, and Canada is simply entirely bourgeois, and so are unburdened into the highest orders of vanity and decadence therein.  

In terms of picking up a rifle and manning a post, although I would submit that said duty is and honour and so a pleasure, it's just not a pleasure to stand on the walls of a failed state which no longer has a central narrative and does not reflect its own stated values, never mind ones individual core principles.

[Zeitgeist]

So proud of Canada.  Protect it.  Love America too, but allies need to stick together.  China and Russia are working hard to undermine and not even America can go it alone.  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

So proud of Canada.  Protect it.  Love America too, but allies need to stick together.  China and Russia are working hard to undermine and not even America can go it alone.  

 

Canada was helping China undermine U.S. markets and trade rules.   Some ally....

[Yzermandius19]

43 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Canada was helping China undermine U.S. markets and trade rules.   Some ally....

Yeah well your Anti-Hamilton tariffs hurt America even more than they hurt my hometown, suck it Yankee, shoot yourselves in the foot, enjoy those higher steel prices. Y'all did it under Bush 43 and the same shit happened, but America is a slow learner sometimes, y'all musta forgot.

Edited January 16, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Yeah well your Anti-Hamilton tariffs hurt America even more than they hurt my hometown, suck it Yankee, shoot yourselves in the foot, enjoy those higher steel prices. Y'all did it under Bush 43 and the same shit happened, but America is a slow learner sometimes.

 

Desired effect has been achieved..."ally" Canada clamped down on Chinese transshipments and dumping. 

 

Edited January 16, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Desired effect has been achieved..."ally" Canada clamped down on Chinese transshipments and dumping.   

Hope the higher steel prices are worth it, lulz. Silly America, tariffs are good for big corporate welfare, and occasionally additional bargaining leverage in negotiating a new trade deal, while they hurt everyone else, not that Canada knows any better, just saying.

Edited January 16, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Hope the higher steel prices are worth it, lulz. Silly America, tariffs are for big corporate welfare and hurt everyone else, not that Canada knows any better, just saying.

 

Correct....if tariffs are so stupid...hope Canada is enjoying its own.    May the best tariffs win !

Edited January 16, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Correct....if tariffs are so stupid...hope Canada is enjoying their own.    May the best tariffs win !

I wish Canada dropped the ridiculous Supply Management Tariffs we have against your dairy, beef and poultry, those tariffs are hurting Canadian consumers a lot more than we are harming American farmers, or propping up those industries sheltered from competition via said ridiculous tariffs. Enough of the softwood lumber tariffs too, what nonsense.

[Dougie93]

Canada is still figuring out what hit them, because, one, they somehow think that tariffs are a forcefield instead just a tax, and two, assumed that was something Canada could do but nobody would ever do it back, so now they are in a self taxing competition, against a twenty trillion dollar Hegemon. 

Like you said in another thread; it's the land of make believe up here.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I wish Canada dropped the ridiculous Supply Management Tariffs we have against your dairy, beef and poultry, those tariffs are hurting Canadian consumers a lot more than we are harming American farmers, or propping up those industries sheltered from competition via said ridiculous tariffs. Enough of the softwood lumber tariffs too, what nonsense.

 

American dairy farmers have been over producing for decades....a culling is necessary.  

Canadian provinces have been hosing each other on trade far longer than Trumps tariffs.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is still figuring out what hit them, because, one, they somehow think that tariffs are a forcefield instead just a tax, and two, assumed that was something Canada could do but nobody would ever do it back, so now they are in a self taxing competition, against a twenty trillion dollar Hegemon. 

Like you said in another thread; it's the land of make believe up here.

 

For starters, Canada can never win a trade war with the United States.   Even a dummy like Trudeau should know that.

Tariffs have been weaponized by Trump to take on trade imbalances and protectionism that takes far too long to rectify using WTO case filings.

Based on Canada's response, I think Trump got their attention much faster.

Edited January 16, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

For starters, Canada can never win a trade war with the United States.   Even a dummy like Trudeau should know that.

Tariffs have been weaponized by Trump to take on trade imbalances and protectionism that takes far too long to rectify using WTO case filings.

Based on Canada's response, I think Trump got their attention.

Big Daddy Trump, President of Canada, saving the nanny socialists from themselves, one shot upside the head at a time.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Big Daddy Trump, President of Canada, saving the nanny socialists from themselves, one shot upside the head at a time.

 

Mexico figured it out pretty quickly...turned the tables on Freeland and cut a deal with Trump while Trudeau still whined about tariffs.

[Dougie93]

It's all just arguing over the scraps of the Industrial Age, the unions are trying to seize control here through their hegemon Unifor, but Unifor can't save them, like Jerry Diaz is going off the deep end talking like Marxist Socialist Revolution, the unions want the Liberals to go to war, occupy the factories! shit like that, the whole place is reeling from the sudden onset of realpolitik.

I'd feel bad for them, if they weren't commies.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

It's all just arguing over the scraps of the Industrial Age, the unions are trying to seize control here through their hegemon Unifor, but Unifor can't save them, like Jerry Diaz is going off the deep end talking like Marxist Socialist Revolution, the unions want the Liberals to go to war, occupy the factories! shit like that, the whole place is reeling from the sudden onset of realpolitik.

 

Those folks have been losing auto sector jobs for 20 years....long before Trump came along.    The Liberals screwed up Ontariowe big time...too late to cry about it now.

[Yzermandius19]

22 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canadian provinces have been hosing each other on trade far longer than Trumps tariffs.

Fake Country, like you say, or so I am told.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Fake Country, like you say, or so I am told.

 

I never said that....but others have.

[Dougie93]

But this is at the end of decades of indoctrination by the CBC which has now become totalitarian, the Liberal Party, the CBC and Canada, all the same thing in their minds eye.

Hence why they are reduced to fascistic rallying around the Liberal Party of Canada to sing the Liberal Party of Canada Song under the Liberal Party of Canada Flag with the Liberal Party of Canada Fuhrer. 

The cancer is in the bones.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I never said that....but others have.

Well then I am saying it, and would take no umbrage with Americans, for also pointing out the obvious.

[Dougie93]

Canadian Confederation is a Fake Country, because it was never intended to be a country, it was simply a military and trade alliance within the British Empire.

Bear in mind, none of those people then, foresaw the coming of the Somme, they never thought they would be thrown into the big wide world alone, they assumed the British Empire was forever, they didn't want to leave the British Empire, they were British Imperial super freaks, more British Imperial than the British themselves, due to the proximity of the looming Reb Menace.

This is why they charged into World War One with glee, they thought it was their big chance to prove themselves to the Empire, they came out the other end as de facto Americans, but they never that coming in 1867.

Canada was Britain, Britain was Canada, nobody intended this to be a country here.

Edited January 16, 2019 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

Frankly, I don't know why some Canadians invest so much angst into whatever is happening with the current U.S. president, politics, or elections.    It's not like they can do anything about it.   Even if Trump was gone tomorrow we have another American prick lined up to keep the hammer down...and another one after that.

Obama abused Canada too, but they wanted to have his baby compared to Trump.

[Yzermandius19]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Frankly, I don't know why some Canadians invest so much angst into whatever is happening with the current U.S. president, politics, or elections.    It's not like they can do anything about it.   Even if Trump was gone tomorrow we have another American prick lined up to keep the hammer down...and another one after that.

Obama abused Canada too, but they wanted to have his baby compared to Trump.

It's because the CBC propaganda arm told them "Orange Man Bad", instead of telling them the truth, that's he's the Secret President of Canada, and is looking out more for Canadian interests than Trudeau ever will. Many Canadians have a tendency to think that every Republican President is basically the next Hitler anyway, and the CBC is more than happy to indulge that fantasy and promote it until the cows come home. They pulled the same shit with Bush 43 too, it's nothing new. So pay them no mind, other than to be amused by their counter-productive screeching.

Edited January 16, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

It's because the CBC propaganda arm told them "Orange Man Bad", instead of telling them the truth, that's he's the Secret President of Canada, and is looking out more for Canadian interests than Trudeau ever will. Many Canadians have a tendency to think that every Republican President is basically the next Hitler anyway, and the CBC is more than happy to indulge that fantasy, they pulled the same shit with Bush too, it's nothing new. So pay them no mind, other than to be amused by their counter-productive screeching.

 

That's the funny part...the CBC thought it could never get any worse than with George W. Bush.....suckers !   

Older Canadians get it...they may not like it...but they have a Red Green understanding of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't know.  

Hell, the Liberals hated NAFTA....until they loved it.    Can't make this stuff up.

[Yzermandius19]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's the funny part...the CBC thought it could never get any worse than with George W. Bush.....suckers !   

Older Canadians get it...they may not like it...but they have a Red Green understanding of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't know.  

Hell, the Liberals hated NAFTA....until they loved it.    Can't make this stuff up.

The Liberals hated NAFTA because the Conservatives were in power and they were for it, once they were out of power and the Liberals would get the credit for passing it instead of the Conservatives, then all of a sudden, they were all for it. Then later, when Trump comes along and wants a new trade deal, they love NAFTA more than ever because it can used to virtue signal against the Orange Man, and if Canadians turn out to like the USMCA after it's implemented, they will claim it's only so good because they played "hardball" with Trump.

 

Edited January 16, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

The Liberals hated NAFTA because the Conservatives were in power and they were for it, once they were out of power and the Liberals would get the credit for passing it, then they were all for it. Then when Trump comes along and wants a new trade deal, they love NAFTA more than ever because it can used to virtue signal against the Orange Man.

 

Even given that, Mulroney and Chretien played the cards they were dealt much better than JT and the Sunshine Band.  

The Orange Man wrecking ball is not going away anytime soon.