Yzermandius19 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Everything in moderation including moderation, maximum speed violence and aggression in the defence of liberty is no vice. Barry Goldwater Knows. 3 minutes ago, taxme said: He no doubt likes to avoid mentioning blue state cities like Chicago and Baltimore where gun murders run rampant. He doesn't want to look at red state cities that are bluer than the rest of the state either. Edited February 6, 2019 by Yzermandius19
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Lefties love those Pre-Crime programs though, especially in places like Chicago, and if you don't support the anti-Gun Pre-Crime programs, then you don't care about gun violence and want people to die, or so they think. At least that nonsense makes for a good laugh though. Aw yes, the children.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 Arm your children too. Problem solved.
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Barry Goldwater Knows. He doesn't want to look at red state cities that are bluer than the rest of the state either. They cannot help themselves. It's in their nature to be violent.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, taxme said: They cannot help themselves. It's in their nature to be violent. It's my nature to be violent, Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator, North German Protestant ftw.
Yzermandius19 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: It's my nature to be violent, Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator, North German Protestant ftw. Oh sweet, sweet violence, gotta love it.
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 They cannot help themselves. It's in their nature to be violent.
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: It's my nature to be violent, Homo Sapiens Sapiens Apex Predator, North German Protestant ftw. It's not in my nature to be violent. I am a lover not a fighter.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, taxme said: It's not in my nature to be violent. I am a lover not a fighter. I've never found loving and fighting to be mutually exclusive, I was in love with my wife at first sight, and I will of course kill and die for her as necessary.
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 A real man that loves his wife must do what must be done. It is the man's duty to defend and protect his wife from harm no matter what.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, taxme said: A real man that loves his wife must do what must be done. It is the man's duty to defend and protect his wife from harm no matter what. Which I do. When she is away on business, she is provided with close protection detail from her firm, but I've vetted them, they are operators, so I trust them to go down swinging for her like pros.
taxme Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Which I do. When she is away on business, she is provided with close protection detail from her firm, but I've vetted them, they are operators, so I trust them to go down swinging for her like pros. Relying on others sometimes can be costly. I hope they are being paid well enough to risk their life for your wife.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, taxme said: Relying on others sometimes can be costly. I hope they are being paid well enough to risk their life for your wife. I am close protection operator qualified, so I know my business, but the firm has means far beyond anything I can provide, they're rolling around in armored Range Rovers with permit to carry in Europe.
Dougie93 Posted February 6, 2019 Report Posted February 6, 2019 In terms of being paid, they are surely paid well, but I don't trust them on that basis, they're NATO STANAG Tier Two, ex-military policemen seconded to corporate security. Mostly German, Belgian and Dutch, ultra professional, so I trust them as a North German Protestant by way of the profession of arms.
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, taxme said: What don't you understand? The bigger the population is in any country the more crime there will be. What don't you understand here? Do Canadians kill more people than Americans? per Capita means for every 100,000 people. if Canada had 100 thousand people and America had a 100,000 people canada has 2.1 gun deaths america 10.3 per capita is grade 5 math buddy. 1
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, taxme said: They cannot help themselves. It's in their nature to be violent. What are you talking about? Who’s nature to be violent?
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, taxme said: He no doubt likes to avoid mentioning blue state cities like Chicago and Baltimore where gun murders run rampant. Alaska has far more gun deaths than Illinois .so do most red states,
Zeitgeist Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) I think the main reasons for the greater number of gun deaths in the US are more guns, more semi and fully automatic weapons, more handguns (as opposed to hunting rifles), more socio-economic polarization, and a more militaristic, violent social history. The US suffers from “the poverty of the commons”, which means that when I leave my gated community or more privileged area, I enter more dangerous and less predictable territory. I’m privately wealthy but at risk outside my hood. I can’t walk anywhere I want, especially at night. That represents a limit on freedom. If I get out of my dented Mercedes in old Merrakesh, I have to deal with the social conditions around me, the desperation and blight in the street. This is the problem in much of Africa, India, South America, and to a lesser extent, Russia. The health and welfare of the wider society impacts every individual, including the rich. It’s not that we want a “nanny state” to take care of us, it’s that my success is linked to the successes of others, at least to a minimum standard. The every man for himself law of the jungle sets people at odds with each other. It breeds alienation and exploitation. I’m not sure socialism solves the violence problem, but many socialist policies can help. Bernie and Cortez understand this. Edited February 7, 2019 by Zeitgeist 1
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: I think the main reasons for the greater number of gun deaths in the US are more guns, more semi and fully automatic weapons, more handguns (as opposed to hunting rifles), more socio-economic polarization, and a more militaristic, violent social history. The US suffers from “the poverty of the commons”, which means that when I leave my gated community or more privileged area, I enter more dangerous and less predictable territory. I’m privately wealthy but at risk outside my hood. I can’t walk anywhere I want, especially at night. That represents a limit on freedom. If I get out of my dented Mercedes in old Merrakesh, I have to deal with the social conditions around me, the desperation and blight in the street. This is the problem in much of Africa, India, South America, and to a lesser extent, Russia. The health and welfare of the wider society impacts every individual, including the rich. Excellent comment...
Dougie93 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 Canadian lefties agree, America is not for them. America agrees, stay out of America, Canadian lefties. Problem solved.
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canadian lefties agree, America is not for them. America agrees, stay out of America, Canadian lefties. Problem solved. Germany is a wonderful place but it wasn’t always. America has a demagogue that is destroying their country. A major set back no doubt. 1
Zeitgeist Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canadian lefties agree, America is not for them. America agrees, stay out of America, Canadian lefties. Problem solved. Unless America turns left...Not likely. Or Canada could swing right...Not likely.
Dougie93 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 America is to the left, it's just classically liberal without being socialist. Canada is to the right of America, monarchy being inherently to the right of republics.
Dougie93 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimwd said: Germany is a wonderful place but it wasn’t always. America has a demagogue that is destroying their country. A major set back no doubt. Canadian Lefties have a deeply ingrained bias against American Jacksonian nationalism? Not surprising. It's popular in America tho, outside of the progressive cantonments in the urban centers, which are boxed by both the Electoral College and the Supreme Court now. So all is well.
Jimwd Posted February 7, 2019 Report Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canadian Lefties have a deeply ingrained bias against American Jacksonian nationalism? Not surprising. It's popular in America tho, outside of the progressive cantonments in the urban centers, which are boxed by both the Electoral College and the Supreme Court now. So all is well. “Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.” Albert Einstein 1
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