Tribal_wayz Posted May 21, 2018 Report Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) On 5/17/2018 at 9:44 AM, scribblet said: Trudeau is pretty one sided in this as he is completely ignoring the role of Hamas. Israel has every right to defend it's borders so what would happen if they didn't, what do people think would happen if thousands of blood thirsty rioters got through? Does anyone really think that it would just be a peaceful march or that they would not kill any israeli they saw? Trudeau wants an investigation into the shooting of the Canadian Dr but maybe someone should fill Trudeau in on the guy's activist background, not that it would matter to him. The guy is not so innocent, and It's very telling that the media haven't been reporting on Loubani's background which consists of of being arrested multiple times while in the Middle East. The Canadian gov't had to ball out Loubani and pal when they were arrested and jailed in Egypt. I bet the Mossad knew about him. Just think: on Monday over 60 Palestinian rioters were killed while violently attempting to violently infiltrate into Israel from Gaza. Today - no one was using violence, no one was trying to infiltrate so - guess what - no one was killed. They deserved no less and should (by now) become acquainted, familiar and comfortable with a foreign armed military presence amongst them. After all it's been almost 70 years, surely it's time one accepts a lessor existence. I wonder what a life would be like, if I couldn't leave my town, city or Bantustan. I suspect many European Jews would appreciate the predicament of the ghetto - be it placed in Warsaw or in Hebron. Most Jews are starting to see Israel for being an aggressive ethnostate, and increasingly don't identify with Israel. Of course some trolls will strategically camp various website, blogs and forums to disseminate their special brand of bigotry. Betsy and Pik would be just two examples. Edited May 21, 2018 by Tribal_wayz Quote
ironstone Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 2:50 PM, eyeball said: You've got it backwards as usual. Trying to depict Gaza as a gift is like calling the Warsaw Ghetto a resort. So what has Hamas done for it's people? Can Gaza survive without massive aid from the West? Would you enjoy seeing them fulfill what's written in their Charter about the destruction of Israel and it's people? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, ironstone said: So what has Hamas done for it's people? Resisted their dispossession and occupation. Quote Can Gaza survive without massive aid from the West? Would you enjoy seeing them fulfill what's written in their Charter about the destruction of Israel and it's people? No I wouldn't want to see that but given the depth of multi-generation fear, hatred and loathing that's been allowed to fester its likely very inevitable. How long can the West continue providing massive aid? This squabble has been going on for thousands of years already and the only end in sight apparently is some whacky religious notion. Seriously, what happens if and many would say when, the global economy goes in the toilet and everyone is left to fend on their own? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
betsy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) On 5/20/2018 at 10:56 PM, Tribal_wayz said: Most Jews are starting to see Israel for being an aggressive ethnostate, and increasingly don't identify with Israel. Of course some trolls will strategically camp various website, blogs and forums to disseminate their special brand of bigotry. Betsy and Pik would be just two examples. What's sensible thinking....is of course, "bigotry" to some, which usually are the ones who are bigots themselves. They're called, "anti-semites," to be precised. A lot of Jews are......liberals! No surprise there. And I think....there's some kinda psychology in it. I think too that, liberal Jews mistakenly think they'd be spared by anti-semitism just because they are "anti-semite" themselves. That'll kinda be like a gay who tries to justify Islamic terrorism and saying the west deserves what it gets - mistakenly thinking the islamists wouldn't want him dead for being gay! Edited May 24, 2018 by betsy 1 1 Quote
betsy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, eyeball said: Resisted their dispossession and occupation. Let's spell it out for what it is. You mean..........MADE SHIELDS OUT OF THEM! Low-maintenance shields! Boy, you don't even have to carry them. Self-moving shields! They come in all sizes, too. It's okay. You can blow em up by the hundreds.....there's more where they came from. Edited May 23, 2018 by betsy Quote
eyeball Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, betsy said: It's okay. You can blow em up by the hundreds.....there's more where they came from. Is that what Jesus would do? Edited May 23, 2018 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, eyeball said: Is that what Jesus would do? No. It's a perversion of Christianity to revel in death and even unhappiness. This is why it's difficult to call yourself a Christian nowadays: the meaning has turned 180 degrees into an assertion of force, supporting wealthy sinners above all. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
betsy Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: Is that what Jesus would do? Raising the Jesus card again and again.....when all else fails......that's always the last resort! And, no eyeball....what Hamas is doing isn't what Jesus would do. That's Christianity 101 for you. But then again, you do know Hamas is Sunni-Muslim, do you? Or maybe.....you don't know that too? Like you don't know about fertilization? Edited May 23, 2018 by betsy Quote
eyeball Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, betsy said: Raising the Jesus card again and again.....when all else fails......that's always the last resort! Actually it's the first card, something you invite virtually every-time you open your venomous mouth. Quote And, no eyeball....what Hamas is doing isn't what Jesus would do. That's Christianity 101 for you. Christianity wouldn't resist? I kinda knew that already. Quote But then again, you do know Hamas is Sunni-Muslim, do you? Or maybe.....you don't know that too? What I know is that Hamas resists Sunni-Muslim dispossession and occupation by Israel. Quote Like you don't know about fertilization? What on Earth would make you think I don't know about that? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Posted May 23, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 1:58 PM, eyeball said: Two wrongs don't make a right PIK. That's exactly the sort of wooly-headed illogic you accuse liberals of expressing. Israel would love peace, but the arabs just want them dead. Israel gave up the gaza strip and what did it get, hamas closer to their borders with thier mortars, why would Israel trust anyone now. And what group send their people to be killed just to get some pics for the left wing media. Arabs need to join the rest of us in the 21st century. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted May 23, 2018 Author Report Posted May 23, 2018 19 hours ago, eyeball said: Resisted their dispossession and occupation. No I wouldn't want to see that but given the depth of multi-generation fear, hatred and loathing that's been allowed to fester its likely very inevitable. How long can the West continue providing massive aid? This squabble has been going on for thousands of years already and the only end in sight apparently is some whacky religious notion. Seriously, what happens if and many would say when, the global economy goes in the toilet and everyone is left to fend on their own? Hamas uses them for thier war against Israel because they are nothing but a bunch of cowards. How do you support a people that will, send their own to their death to prove a point. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
taxme Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 19 hours ago, eyeball said: Resisted their dispossession and occupation. No I wouldn't want to see that but given the depth of multi-generation fear, hatred and loathing that's been allowed to fester its likely very inevitable. How long can the West continue providing massive aid? This squabble has been going on for thousands of years already and the only end in sight apparently is some whacky religious notion. Seriously, what happens if and many would say when, the global economy goes in the toilet and everyone is left to fend on their own? If the global economy goes for a dump then that should help end the massive foreign aid program that has cost the Canadian taxpayer's billions of their tax dollars for decades now. Then that money can stay home and help it's own people. That would work for me. Quote
taxme Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: No. It's a perversion of Christianity to revel in death and even unhappiness. This is why it's difficult to call yourself a Christian nowadays: the meaning has turned 180 degrees into an assertion of force, supporting wealthy sinners above all. Muslims seem to be enjoying every day in the reveling and destruction and happiness of we the infidels. So, what's your point? Quote
taxme Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 12:29 PM, Centerpiece said: Why isn't Hamas storming the Egyptian border blockade? How come we never hear of violent confrontations there? It's rhetorical - but really, it would be refreshing for the media to make that distinction. By the way, does anyone know how Egypt's 30 foot high Iron Wall is coming along - the wall to keep Palistinians from breeching the border or tunneling under ? Don't know, don't care about any wall over there. I could careless as to what goes on in the Arab/Israel world and their hatred for each other and their battles that goes on in the Middle East. The Arabs are a bunch of religious and fanatical back ass wards people anyway. Israel has nothing to offer the world at all. Foreign aid is how they survive. The West needs to leave those losers alone and let them massacre each other otherwise the Western people are only asking for and bringing on more troubles for themselves. The Middle East is the only place on earth where all the world's problems exist from. The West needs to get the hell out of there. Just saying. Quote
ironstone Posted May 23, 2018 Report Posted May 23, 2018 Hamas does not merely encourage resistance, they wholeheartedly encourage violence at every opportunity. Not only against Israelis, but Hamas is all too eager to see their own people needlessly die for the sake of propaganda. How much effort is given to building a robust economy in Gaza compared to resources wasted attacking Israelis? As for the multi-generation fear,loathing and hatred,it hasn't been allowed to fester......Hamas teaches it, encourages it and promotes it! Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
betsy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Actually, it's leaders like Trudeau - and people like him - who are enablers of Hamas in using their own people as human shields! Hamas isn't using people - especially children - as shields, to get on the sympathetic side of Israel towards these hapless people. Hamas is purposefully using people - women and children - in order to agitate the bleeding hearts and leaders like Trudeau, to put pressure on Israel! Trudeau and other anti-semites aim to tie the hands of Israel in defending itself. Excessive force indeed. If there is any excessive force being used, it's being used by Hamas on its own people! Everyone has the right to use whatever force they want to use to defend their borders! No one has the right to use another person as a shield! Get that? Hamas uses the media and the predictable leftist twisted mentality, like a pot for making spaghetti. Doesn't it work? You bet it does! Look at the news - how they pan the cameras to injured children, making it out that Israel is a monster who would do such things to children! Then, anti-semitics like Trudeau are quick to grab that opportunity to start hammering Israel! In the meantime......people forget what Hamas is! And that it's Hamas who's actually doing this to its own people! Quote UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields The report also confirmed something Israel’s been saying all along: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools during last summer’s war and fired rockets at Israel from two of them. Israel repeatedly made that point during the conflict to explain why it was firing on schools (and mosques and hospitals) where Palestinians had taken refuge. Because Hamas, desperate to win world sympathy by any means, has always been happy to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the better. https://nypost.com/2015/05/02/un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-as-human-shields/ So.....wipe off those crocodile tears, and gimme a break! People like Trudeau only serve to encourage this atrocious act of Hamas against its own people. Anti-semites welcome the blood of Palestinian civilians who are being forced by Hamas to be their shields, since the more gets killed, the more you can demonize Israel. Edited May 24, 2018 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Quote It was a swift, stunning and consequential war. In just six days, the young, tiny state of Israel smashed its Arab foes, quadrupled the territory under its control and filled Jews everywhere with new pride. Nothing in the Middle East would ever be the same. Fifty years later, we are living in a world powerfully shaped by the 1967 conflict. When dawn broke on June 5, Israel was just 19 years old, younger than many of its soldiers. The Holocaust was still a fresh memory, particularly in the minds of the many survivors who had come as immigrants. Arab governments that had gone to war to prevent Israel's creation still expected to someday erase it from the map. It was a devastating one. In little more than an hour, Israeli jets obliterated nearly all of the Egyptian air force, followed by similar destruction in Jordan. In the days following, its ground troops took East Jerusalem, the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights and the entire West Bank. And then, with a U.N.-brokered ceasefire, the war was over. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-israel-six-day-war-50-edit-0605-md-20170604-story.html Shows you the incredible restraint of Israel! What nation would've stopped right there? In hindsight....the world would've been better off had Israel continued on - and took everyone of them! A few more days and it would've been over! Edited May 24, 2018 by betsy Quote
eyeball Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, betsy said: Actually, it's leaders like Trudeau - and people like him - who are enablers of Hamas in using their own people as human shields! No we're more like priests that look the other way when perverts amongst our ranks do their thing. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, betsy said: In hindsight....the world would've been better off had Israel continued on - and took everyone of them! A few more days and it would've been over! God must be so proud of you. Especially that miserable bastard from the Old Testament. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 10:44 AM, Michael Hardner said: No. It's a perversion of Christianity to revel in death and even unhappiness. This is why it's difficult to call yourself a Christian nowadays: the meaning has turned 180 degrees into an assertion of force, supporting wealthy sinners above all. It's also a perversion of Islam for the same reasons. But both the Quran and the Bible show very vengeful gods. And that revenge can be had for various reasons. 10 hours ago, betsy said: In hindsight....the world would've been better off had Israel continued on - and took everyone of them! A few more days and it would've been over! This is nothing more than advocating for murder and genocide. Kind of ironic really. Quote
betsy Posted May 24, 2018 Report Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GostHacked said: It's also a perversion of Islam for the same reasons. But both the Quran and the Bible show very vengeful gods. And that revenge can be had for various reasons. This is nothing more than advocating for murder and genocide. Kind of ironic really. No. Those people would've been better off under Israel.....than being under the thumb of monsters, who think nothing of stoning and beheading them.....and using them for shields! There wouldn't be any rampant random murders by jihadists that we see now. The world would've been a better place! Edited May 24, 2018 by betsy Quote
Rue Posted May 25, 2018 Report Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) On 5/20/2018 at 10:56 PM, Tribal_wayz said: Most Jews are starting to see Israel. Your bull shit ends with the above words. You haven't spoken to any "Jews" let alone know any Jews. You are full of it. All you have done is make a phony projection based on your belief you can stereotype Jews in one nice neat anti Israel label. You don't speak for me or any Jew and I am inclined to agree with Betsy that if you want to play good Jew bad Jew and sugest the only good Jew is one who hates Israel read what she said. Betsy is probably more accurate than you in suggesting certain Jews think if they hate Israel people like you will like them. Get back to me with your proof for how you know MOST Jews hate Israel. Lol. Tribal wayz tell me, do you claim you are not a member of a tribe? Your family is a tribe. The fact you aren't a Jew doesn't stop your family from being a tribe. Um uh um uh go figure that out. Edited May 25, 2018 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted May 25, 2018 Report Posted May 25, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 3:59 PM, GostHacked said: It's also a perversion of Islam for the same reasons. But both the Quran and the Bible show very vengeful gods. And that revenge can be had for various reasons. This is nothing more than advocating for murder and genocide. Kind of ironic really. Using the Bible or the Koran as an excuse to be a terrorist and draw a moral equivalence between the West and Hamas is a crock of shit. Its a tired leftist exercise to try romanticize Islamic extremism as being relative to Christianity. It does not excuse what is happening in Gaza and people like you can whitewash terrorism and piss on Israel but the here and now of Gaza is terrorists who use their citizens as fodder in a self-destructive exercise-a prolonged terroristy tantrum that Israel exists. The fact is all the huffing and blowing has gotten Palestinians no where and they can decide live peacefully or wipe themselves out. The choice is their choice. Blaming Israel for their rejection of peace and democracy is bullshit. Israel do es not rule inside Gaza anymore than it does Arab countries or the West Bank where Muslims live. A lot more people will die before Hamas moves o to its next political propaganda exercise of having its people use themselves as screaming idiot covers for Hamas terrorists. Quote
Rue Posted May 25, 2018 Report Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) On 5/24/2018 at 9:46 AM, eyeball said: God must be so proud of you. Especially that miserable bastard from the Old Testament. He must be proud of you too then usingt he exact same reasoning. But hey I know, you have a monopoly on what God believes. Edited May 25, 2018 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted May 25, 2018 Report Posted May 25, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 4:17 PM, PIK said: Israel would love peace, but the arabs just want them dead. Israel gave up the gaza strip and what did it get, hamas closer to their borders with thier mortars, why would Israel trust anyone now. And what group send their people to be killed just to get some pics for the left wing media. Arabs need to join the rest of us in the 21st century. Whether that is true or not I will say this-Trudeau is an idiot. He has no clue what is going on in Gaza and has never been to Gaza or the West Bank and was brought up in a sheltered millionaire trust fund world where he romanticizes people he does no know like little dolls he collects for his play station in his bed-room. Look Sophie I have a new doll its called a Palestinian. Tee hee if you pull its string it goes kaboom Quote
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