Refugee crisis escalating

[OftenWrong]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

"Oh the sky is falling the sky is falling" adults are not at all adult, OftenWrong. 

Enough of your hijacking threads with nonsense. Shoo, little flea.

[hot enough]

12 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Enough of your hijacking threads with nonsense. Shoo, little flea.

This, above, is one of your favorite tricks.

You conservatives really hate to have to operate outside your cloistered little bubbles, don't you, OftenWrong?

[Argus]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

I'm actually shocked that we would do something this stupid.

Really? It flows pretty obviously from our electing Trudeau.

So today, let’s discuss Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s open agenda to remake Canada in his. The first hint came when Trudeau told The New York Times Magazine in December, 2015, that, “there is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” which makes us “the first postnational state. Trudeau did add that Canadians have “shared values” such as “openness, respect, compassion, willingness to work hard, to be there for each other, to search for equality and justice.” But in Trudeau’s “postnational” Canada, none of these “shared values” are important enough, apparently, for us to screen potential immigrants and refugees for, to see if they share them as well.

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/08/05/trudeaus-unhidden-agenda

Edited August 8, 2017 by Argus

[hot enough]

The vast majority of refugees come from the very countries that the US/UK illegally invaded, commits acts of terrorism against, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Is there anyone in their right mind who doesn't know that the cause of all these problems is the USA? 

[bush_cheney2004]

The Haitian refugees come from a very Canadian coup, not Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq.

Enjoy the "blowback"...Canadian style.

[hot enough]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Haitian refugees come from a very Canadian coup, not Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq.

Enjoy the "blowback"...Canadian style.

You take such great pleasure in people's suffering. You must be an American raised on war crimes, genocide, terrorism, baby killing, raping, torturing, ... . 

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You take such great pleasure....

 

It's just basic geography....Haitians come from Haiti, not Iraq.

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

It's just basic geography....Haitians come from Haiti, not Iraq.

You take such great pleasure in people's suffering. You wallow in other people's suffering. What makes you so evil?

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Why the US Owes Haiti Billions — The Briefest History

 

By Bill Quigley

 

 

Colin Powell, former US Secretary of State, stated his foreign policy view as the “Pottery Barn rule”: if you break it, you own it.

The US has worked to break Haiti for over 200 years. We owe Haiti. Not charity. We owe Haiti as a matter of justice. Reparations. And not the $100 million promised by President Obama either — that is Powerball money. The US owes Haiti Billions — with a big B.

The US has worked for centuries to break Haiti. The US has used Haiti like a plantation. The US helped bleed the country economically since it freed itself, repeatedly invaded the country militarily, supported dictators who abused the people, used the country as a dumping ground for our own economic advantage, ruined their roads and agriculture, and toppled popularly elected officials. The US has even used Haiti like the old plantation owner and slipped over there repeatedly for sexual recreation.

Here is the briefest history of some of the major US efforts to break Haiti.

In 1804, when Haiti achieved its freedom from France in the world’s first successful slave revolution, the United States refused to recognize the country. The US continued to refuse recognition to Haiti for 60 more years. Why? Because the US continued to enslave millions of its own citizens and feared recognizing Haiti would encourage slave revolution in the US.

After the 1804 revolution, Haiti was the subject of a crippling economic embargo by France and the US. US sanctions lasted until 1863. France ultimately used its military power to force Haiti to pay reparations for the slaves who were freed. The reparations were 150 million francs. (France sold the entire Louisiana territory to the US for 80 million francs!)

Haiti was forced to borrow money from banks in France and the US to pay reparations to France. A major loan from the US to pay off the French was finally paid off in 1947. The current value of the money Haiti was forced to pay to French and US banks? Over $20 Billion.

The US occupied and ruled Haiti by force from 1915 to 1934. President Woodrow Wilson sent troops to invade in 1915. Revolts by Haitians were put down by US military, killing over 2,000 in one skirmish alone. For the next nineteen years, the US controlled customs in Haiti, collected taxes, and ran many governmental institutions. How many billions were siphoned off by the US during these 19 years?

From 1957 to 1986 Haiti was forced to live under US backed dictators “Papa Doc” and “Baby Doc” Duvlaier. The US supported these dictators economically and militarily because they did what the US wanted and were politically “anti-communist” — now translatable as against human rights for their people. Duvalier stole millions from Haiti and ran up hundreds of millions in debt that Haiti still owes. Ten thousand Haitians lost their lives. Estimates say that Haiti owes $1.3 billion in external debt and that 40% of that debt was run up by the US-backed Duvaliers.

Thirty years ago Haiti imported no rice; today, Haiti imports nearly all its rice. Though Haiti was the sugar growing capital of the Caribbean, it now imports sugar as well. Why? The US and the US dominated world financial institutions — the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank — forced Haiti to open its markets to the world. Then the US dumped millions of tons of US subsidized rice and sugar into Haiti, undercutting their farmers and ruining Haitian agriculture. By ruining Haitian agriculture, the US has forced Haiti into becoming the third largest world market for US rice. Good for US farmers, bad for Haiti.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/why-the-us-owes-haiti-bil_b_426260.html

 

[bush_cheney2004]

A very Canadian coup.....for Haiti:

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The top 10 ways that Canada aided the 2004 coup in Haiti and helped subject Haitians to a brutal reign of terror ....

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/monitor/very-canadian-coup

 

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

A very Canadian coup.....for Haiti:

 

Agreed. Now deal with your two centuries of heinous war crimes against Haiti, the current US slaughter of millions in all the illegal invasions, the vicious lies that the US uses to make out it is a force for good, your own admitted deep evil for supporting such a criminal nation, a nation of war mongers, baby killers, rapists, ... . 

The US is the cause of the refugee problem. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by hot enough

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

Agreed....

 

Doesn't matter whether you agree or not.    

[hot enough]

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Doesn't matter whether you agree or not.    

Another prevaricator. What can one expect from a lover of war criminals/terrorists/baby killers? Nothing at all in the way of humanity.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, hot enough said:

Another prevaricator.

 

What did you expect...hugs and kisses ?   

Take your nano rhetoric and enjoy the "blowback".

[hot enough]

59 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

What did you expect...hugs and kisses ?   .

More of the prevarications/fabrications that you are famous for, more bragging about US war crimes, US terrorism, how much you love it all. 

 

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Take your nano rhetoric 

More of your juvenile ways and you never fail in that regard.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

...More of your juvenile ways and you never fail in that regard.

 

Those who are so mocked usually deserve it.

[betsy]

15 hours ago, scribblet said:

Toto - I'm not in Kansas anymore

Do we have the zionist counterpart of hot enough? 

Oh great......another conspiracy theorist.

[betsy]

8 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Doesn't matter whether you agree or not.    

Hahahahaha really.....hot enough provides great openings.....

[betsy]

9 hours ago, hot enough said:

You take such great pleasure in people's suffering.

Yeah.....you must think getting showered with Assad's chemical is like a walk in the park. Or, getting stoned is foreplay.  And getting beheaded, the ultimate high. 

Such drivel from you hypocritical lot.

 

One thing that stands out here:  those who are quick to blast anyone who dare give their opinion against same-sex, abortion, or feminism.......are the first ones to defend those who want to annihilate those very same things.

It's a mad, mad world indeed when liberals try to defend Islamists!  You're a confused lot.  It's like you're all stoned on something.......

 

........and, have been stoned for a very long time..........

 

 

Edited August 8, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

9 hours ago, hot enough said:

The vast majority of refugees come from the very countries that the US/UK illegally invaded, commits acts of terrorism against, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Is there anyone in their right mind who doesn't know that the cause of all these problems is the USA? 

 

I could swear you really sound like a soft-jihadee soldier, or in the payroll of the talibans or some despot. 

Yooo-hooo?  Who's terrorizing and systematically brutalizing  whom? And you're very much okay with that.  Hypocritical, or ignorant..... is no longer the best word to describe the way you twist and lie.

You sound like someone in the family had lost a privileged position under Saddam........ or maybe, is crony to Assad?  For all we know you could be a son of a taliban imam  from Afghanistan......

 

 

Edited August 8, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

15 hours ago, capricorn said:

Right now we enjoy a military...the US military. Without the USA and its military we would not be able to defend our homeland ourselves.

 

The socialists - and the islamist collaborators - among us don't like that.  They thought this part of the world is transforming to be the  next Europe.   Obama and Trudeau - tap dancing to the same tune.   Clinton looming in the horizon.  Everything was going on smoothly...........

.............................until a spoke was put in the wheel.

 

That's why they went madly livid with Trump's victory. 

Edited August 8, 2017 by betsy

[drummindiver]

Faaaack. http://m.torontosun.com/2017/08/07/trudeaus-lost-all-control-of-our-border-crisis

[hot enough]

3 hours ago, betsy said:

I could swear ... 

No evidence, ever, from you, Betsy. All you conservatives give is memes, a repeat of the propaganda that has been drilled into your brainwashed heads. The USA has been trying to overthrow the government of Syria for years. That is the very definition of terrorism. 

Why is a christian lady such a big supporter of war criminals/terrorists, baby killers, rapists, thieves, ... ?

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General Wesley Clark

I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”

https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-five-years-annotated

Edited August 8, 2017 by hot enough

[PIK]

21 hours ago, hot enough said:

Yeah, that's exactly what all the more than 70 countries illegally invaded by the USA think too. Thank god for carpet bombing us, for slaughtering our children, for poisoning our children and our environment, for supplying our kids with cluster bombs to play with, for raping our sons and daughters, for torturing our kith and kin, for stealing our wealth. 

How come the USA isn't at all like any of the bullshit movies that you have been brainwashed by, PIK?

A lot of that invading was to save people being raped and brutalized by thier own people. Why does everyone want to come here? Because Islam has not YET destroyed our country ,like every other country, that they are involved in. If you were right and they are fighting because of america, then they would be killing westerners, not slaughtering thier own people, raping thier women and children. Did you see the story on the little boy 2-3 yr old being used as a human shield by the same cowards you support, being saved by iraqi special forces and how they look after him. Why do you support people that do such horrendous stuff to children. America has made mistakes, but the good they have brought people all around the world outweighs the bad. So either you are a idiot loser looking for some cause to hold on to, or you are one of them and hate women and is a coward on the largest scale. And another point the one thing we do wrong is immigration, where we poached the best and brightest from these countries that they will never get better. Time to shut down all immigration from muslim and african countries.

Edited August 8, 2017 by PIK

[capricorn]

I'm looking at a news report on CTV showing the hundreds of cots lined up inside the Big O which is housing asylum seekers. What a pathetic situation.

[Spiderfish]

16 minutes ago, capricorn said:

I'm looking at a news report on CTV showing the hundreds of cots lined up inside the Big O which is housing asylum seekers. What a pathetic situation.

The government has a plan at least...let them in without a hearing if they are  from Syria, Iraq, Eritrea, Afghanistan, Burundi, Egypt, and Yemen .  That should clear the backlog quickly...who needs  a formal hearing anyway?  Hearings are a waste of time and it seriously conflicts with Trudeau's open door policy.

Expedited Policy - Designation of New country

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The purpose of the policy is to enable the RPD to meet its mandate of making refugee status determinations fairly and efficiently by accepting claims without a hearing in appropriate circumstances.