Topaz Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 IF u remember, I told u that the Dems and others would try get Trump out of office through mental health issues. Well, last night on Fox, one reporter said the Dems and others had meetings to look into the 25th Amendment of the USA that would allow the removal of a President for various reasons include mental health issues. I have a gut feeling if they tried that , all hell would break out through out the US. Thoughts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Quote
Boges Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Maybe if they take back Congress in 2018. Not happening with Repubs controlling Congress. The RNC would have to admit they nominated an mentally ill man to run for President. Quote
Omni Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 If you take a moment to revisit some of his debates with Hillary, his constant contradictions of his campaign speeches, or follow his tweets since elected, you could easily conclude they have a good case. Quote
Boges Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omni said: If you take a moment to revisit some of his debates with Hillary, his constant contradictions of his campaign speeches, or follow his tweets since elected, you could easily conclude they have a good case. But the opposition party can't just remove a sitting president without support from the majority party. Quote
Omni Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: But the opposition party can't just remove a sitting president without support from the majority party. I think you meant to say support of congress. But yes the GOP has control of it currently. Quote
scribblet Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 I wouldn't conclude from anything that he has mental issues, that's just a narrative starting the beginning of a coup. Trump maybe a lot of things, but he is not mentally unstable. Maybe if the Democrats and their followers modify their behaviour and quit with the violence while producing good ideas to benefit the population, they could win 2018. 1 Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Omni Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, scribblet said: Trump maybe a lot of things, but he is not mentally unstable. Contrading yourself constantly is a pretty good indication something ain't' quite right under that phony hair. Then there are those crazy tweets. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 Dream on Trump haters...it ain't gonna happen. For starters, the Vice President of the United States would have to agree to any such "coup". Looks like our resident impeachment any day experts(s) have given up, eh ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 37 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Dream on Trump haters...it ain't gonna happen. For starters, the Vice President of the United States would have to agree to any such "coup". Looks like our resident impeachment any day experts(s) have given up, eh ? Let's just take stock, " I like Putin, I don't like Putin, I like China, I don't like China, I like Fat Kim, I don't like Fat Kim, Russia didn't hack the election, Russia did hack the election, and I can sexually assault women because (I think) I'm a star. I could go on of course but I think there is enough there to apply article 4 of the 25th, which, for your edification, does not require impeachment. Trouble is I wonder if Pence would be any better. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omni said: ...I could go on of course but I think there is enough there to apply article 4 of the 25th..... Sorry, but it really doesn't matter what you think should apply in the United States. That's not how it works.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 6, 2017 Report Posted July 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Sorry, but it really doesn't matter what you think should apply in the United States. That's not how it works.... True enough. You are free to have any idiot you want running your country. Quote
Topaz Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Posted July 7, 2017 many in Congress and the senate that could probably fail and mental health too and the media!!. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 What should concern Americans the most is the fact that the Dems are trying their best to bend and stretch the intent of the law to such absurd proportions in an effort to take down their own president. They've tried to get some smart assed lawyers to bend and stretch the collusion theory and the obstruction laws without success and this is just the next step. The 25th is meant for serious cases like if Kennedy had survived and became a vegetable. The only real case where it could've been tried is with Reagan, who is suspected to have been fighting Alzheimers near the end of his presidency. What the Dems wont stoop to to get their way. Hmmm. On a side note, part of me wants to see what Trump supporters would do if the Dems were successful with their silent coup. There would be hell to pay, i'm sure, and I doubt the Trump people would be wearing masks when they come calling. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: What should concern Americans the most is the fact that the Dems are trying their best to bend and stretch the intent of the law to such absurd proportions in an effort to take down their own president. They've tried to get some smart assed lawyers to bend and stretch the collusion theory and the obstruction laws without success and this is just the next step. The 25th is meant for serious cases like if Kennedy had survived and became a vegetable. The only real case where it could've been tried is with Reagan, who is suspected to have been fighting Alzheimers near the end of his presidency. What the Dems wont stoop to to get their way. Hmmm. On a side note, part of me wants to see what Trump supporters would do if the Dems were successful with their silent coup. There would be hell to pay, i'm sure, and I doubt the Trump people would be wearing masks when they come calling. If you think Trump's legal troubles are behind him, wait to see what happens if the GOP loses control of congress at the mid terms. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 Trump....Trump....Trump. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
JamesHackerMP Posted July 7, 2017 Report Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) I think you all need to read the 25th amendment more carefully. To relieve the president of duty (and make Pence "Acting President") the Vice President, and also a simple majority of the cabinet, must sign a letter to the Speaker of the House and the President (pro tempore) of the Senate, stating the president is unable to discharge his duties. However, Trump could write another letter to the Speaker and the PPT saying, "they're wrong, I'm fine." THEN, the VP & majority of the cabinet must write a letter reiterating their position ("Oh no, he isn't!"). When that is done, Congress must assemble within 48 hours to vote on the president's status. That's how it works. In other words, the Democrats have to get Vice-President Pence, eight of the 15 heads of the executive departments (members of the actual cabinet not just "cabinet level" officers) to concur. And if Trump tries to rebut, you'd need majorities of the houses of Congress included in the coup. Sec. 3 allows for the President to remove himself (not as president, but to relieve him of his duty and make the VP Acting President) by writing the letter himself. This was done twice under Bush when he had a colonoscopy, according the wikipedia article you cited. But of course, Trump would never remove himself unless he went under anesthesia. I would imagine that that is the reason for Sec. 3. Edited July 7, 2017 by JamesHackerMP Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
Hal 9000 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Posted July 8, 2017 9 hours ago, Omni said: If you think Trump's legal troubles are behind him, wait to see what happens if the GOP loses control of congress at the mid terms. No, I fully expect the Dems to try any and everything to have him removed. I'm sure they are investigating whether Trump ever tore a tag off a bed mattress. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted July 8, 2017 Report Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said: No, I fully expect the Dems to try any and everything to have him removed. I'm sure they are investigating whether Trump ever tore a tag off a bed mattress. Nope, they're investigating emoluments, collusion, obstruction, article 25, and that's just part of the list. If he continues to provide evidence, it will continue to be followed. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Omni said: Nope, they're investigating emoluments, collusion, obstruction, article 25, and that's just part of the list. If he continues to provide evidence, it will continue to be followed. Don't forget parking tickets and littering. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted July 8, 2017 Report Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Don't forget parking tickets and littering. I don't think those are impeachable. Quote
cannuck Posted July 8, 2017 Report Posted July 8, 2017 I can not help but LMAO every time I see the Dumm.....er....DEMocrats scurrying around in frantic attempts to dump Trump. They are so busy with that obsession, they are not noticing how well he is assaulting the half-wit policies of globalizing leftiness that has crippled the USA. Yes, Trump says and does some contradictory and bizzare things, but overall, he is the first leader of the USA in a very, very long time to even begin to grasp how deep the doo-doo is for his country. What I think the media (also totally pre-occupied with Trumpiness instead of trying to understand and grasp the real issues) has missed is that the people are no where near as ignorant as those with a vested interest in what Trump skillfully keeps unbalanced. If I was on the fence, Trump telling the globalists to stuff the Paris accord pushed me off the middle. Getting comfy with Putin at the G20 was yet another signal that there is some delicate and intelligent diplomacy at hand to try to bring stability to a world that could easily fall back into an "us and them" superpower standoff. Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted July 9, 2017 Report Posted July 9, 2017 On 7/6/2017 at 6:37 PM, Omni said: True enough. You are free to have any idiot you want running your country. As are we, and look where that got us. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
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