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Happy Canada day. Lets recognize the fact that we live in the best country in the world for which tens of millions are dreaming to live in and appreciate our democratic system and freedom and not take it for granted and the majority good hearted citizens who make this country the greatest in the world.

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8 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Happy Canada day. Lets recognize the fact that we live in the best country in the world for which tens of millions are dreaming to live in and appreciate our democratic system and freedom and not take it for granted and the majority good hearted citizens who make this country the greatest in the world.


HDI rankings: 1. Norway 2. Australia 11. Canada

Life Expectancy: 1. Monaco 2. Japan 18. Canada

real GDP per capita (PPP): 1. Qatar 2. Luxembourg 24. Canada

WHO Health Care Rankings: 1. France 2. Italy 30. Canada

 

By what standard is Canada the best country in the world?

This is nationalistic nonsense. You go to basically any country and you have nationalists claiming their country is the best. But the reality is usually quite different.

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Ahh Canada,

 

Does not have freedom of speech (section 2 of the charter is countered by sections 1 and 33 of the charter)

Is not secular (anglican monarch, god/cross in national anthems, god in preamble of charter, catholic school boards)

No equality under the law (section 15 of the charter is countered by sections 15b, 1 and 33 of the charter, plus you have monarchy, indian act & reserve system)

No interprovincial free trade despite it supposedly being one of the main purposes of confederation 150 years ago

Far from #1 in HDI, Life Expenctancy, GDP per capita and Health Care rankings.

Many First Nations do not have clean drinking water

Canada has lots of debt, Ontario has the largest debt of any subnational entity, provinces keep getting credit downgrades

Youth unemployment and underemployment is a major issue

 

I could go on.

 

But by all means, think it's a good idea to spend 1 billion dollars of public money on a giant nationalistic party when that money could go to better uses.

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2 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Ahh Canada,

Does not have freedom of speech (section 2 of the charter is countered by sections 1 and 33 of the charter)

Is not secular (anglican monarch, god/cross in national anthems, god in preamble of charter, catholic school boards)

No equality under the law (section 15 of the charter is countered by sections 15b, 1 and 33 of the charter, plus you have monarchy, indian act & reserve system)

No interprovincial free trade despite it supposedly being one of the main purposes of confederation 150 years ago

Far from #1 in HDI, Life Expenctancy, GDP per capita and Health Care rankings.

Many First Nations do not have clean drinking water

Canada has lots of debt, Ontario has the largest debt of any subnational entity, provinces keep getting credit downgrades

Youth unemployment and underemployment is a major issue

I could go on.

But by all means, think it's a good idea to spend 1 billion dollars of public money on a giant nationalistic party when that money could go to better uses.

We have the other 364 days of the year to worry about that stuff.  Stop being a debbie downer and let's celebrate being in easily one of the greatest societies in the history of human existence.  If they were dumb enough to spend 1 billion well get out there and enjoy your money!

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13 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:


HDI rankings: 1. Norway 2. Australia 11. Canada

Life Expectancy: 1. Monaco 2. Japan 18. Canada

real GDP per capita (PPP): 1. Qatar 2. Luxembourg 24. Canada

WHO Health Care Rankings: 1. France 2. Italy 30. Canada

 

By what standard is Canada the best country in the world?

This is nationalistic nonsense. You go to basically any country and you have nationalists claiming their country is the best. But the reality is usually quite different.

Canada is the country where color, race, religion, orientation does not matter and people are respected and judged based on the size of their hearts and minds rather than the size of their wallet or race or color. Where people of various races have came and prospered and live in peace and harmony together. This is a country where Women are treated with respect and have equal rights and where is the land of freedom and democratic values, These are what make Canada the best country in the world not the GDP.

Canada is a country where tens of millions of people have it as their ultimate goal/dream to come and live and become a citizen. So lets appreciate what we have already and not take it for granted.

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1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Canada is the country where color, race, religion, orientation does not matter

 

The Indian Act, reserve system, employment equity, section 15b of the charter, and availability of university scholarships seems to disagree with this claim.

 

1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

This is a country where Women are treated with respect and have equal rights

 

Equal rights? Equal respect?

Currently it is illegal to mutilate the genitals of infant females without consent, but completely legal to mutilate the genitals of male infants without consent (i.e. circumcision).

No distinction between consent to have sex and consent to be a parent legally exists for men, but it does for women. Society should have parental surrender rights for men and women as advocated by the youth wing of the Swedish Liberal Party. Currently, if a man gets raped by a women and the women gets pregnant, the man may be forced to pay child support to his rapist for 2 decades.

We have the sexist Duluth model to deal with domestic violence disputes.

The sexist court system significantly favours women over men for child custody cases, and men generally serve 62% longer sentences for the same crime even after controlling for the other factors. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002

Despite the fact that women make up 60%+ of university students and the fact that girls are performing better than boys, there are more programs and scholarships to help women/girls excel academically compared to men/boys.

Society gives female-oriented cancer research, such as breast cancer research, many times more funding than male-oriented cancer research, such as prostate cancer, even when you account for differences in deaths. Admittedly, some non-gender-specific cancers, such as pancreatic cancer, have even less funding.

Men experience roughly 3 times the rates of violent crimes (murders, assaults, etc.) as women, yet all of the focus of 'gendered violence' by the Canadian government is on women. How is that equal respect?

Despite the fact that men make up roughly half of domestic violence victims, there are basically zero domestic violence shelters for men. Equal respect?

Despite the fact that 90% of homeless people are men, there are more homeless shelters for women. Equal respect?

Indigenous men are murdered at 3 times the rate as indigenous women. Yet out of all 338 MPs, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, Green and Bloc, none of them see any issue with the sexist double standard by having an inquiry for missing and murdered indigenous women but none for men. Is the value of an indigenous man worth less than a third the value of an indigenous woman? The truth is that male lives don't matter as much as female lives within our society.

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You seem to be indicating that men have less rights in Canada? if true maybe it is about time as for centuries women have been second class citizens with less rights and victims (of violence, unequal rights) and still in many countries are still s as we speak.  Women need more protection (the homeless for example) because they are generally speaking physically weaker and more vulnerable to become victims of violence.Btw there has been a lot more research on some diseases such as heart attack for men than women you failed to mention.

Your posts indicates your total lack f awareness as how badly women are treated in some other countries (in 80% of population) otherwise you wouldn't be saying what you say above. 

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Canada's past and present says otherwise....this is wishful thinking that ignores reality.

If you live in Europe (and especially in Europe like Germany and Britain and France and Eastern Europe like Russia) where gangs of skinheads physically attack people of color skin randomly and for no reason (and much worse in Middle East and Africa) then you would realize how peaceful and great Canada is and comparatively how people are living in harmony and respect. It is not perfect but it is the best. I said Canada is best country. I didn't say Canada is perfect country. We had our share of imperfection (Harper regime).

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15 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

if true maybe it is about time

 

Lol, wtf? It's about time? So you reject equality between men and women?

 

15 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

for centuries women have been second class citizens with less rights and victims

 

Ahh, yes, the time of male privilege. Look at all these privileged white males in the image below during the height of patriarchy (WW1)!

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15 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Women need more protection (the homeless for example) because they are generally speaking physically weaker and more vulnerable to become victims of violence.

 

To the point where men are assaulted and murdered at 3 times the rate? To the point that men make up 90% of homeless people? To the point where men have 4 times the suicide rate?

 

15 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Your posts indicates your total lack f awareness as how badly women are treated in some other countries (in 80% of population) otherwise you wouldn't be saying what you say above. 

 

And here I thought this thread was about Canada.

 

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3 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

 

Lol, wtf? It's about time? So you reject equality between men and women?

Ahh, yes, the time of male privilege. Look at all these privileged white males in the image below during the height of patriarchy (WW1)!

To the point where men are assaulted and murdered at 3 times the rate? To the point that men make up 90% of homeless people? To the point where men have 4 times the suicide rate?

And here I thought this thread was about Canada.

I don't reject equality between men and women but I do believe women are better than men because in MY view women are proven to have bigger hearts (nobody can deny this) and bigger minds too (they do better than men in education and at work). These are the factors which I see as being better not the physical size. 

They work harder (sometimes doing two jobs at work and at home) and smarter and men are responsible for most of crimes and almost all f the wars in the world. Men are making more mistakes than women and women are proven to be generally speaking more observant and given equal opportunities (which they have been denied for all of human history) they would do better than men. We are all the result of evolution and women are more advanced stage of evolution than men. I know for sure that if women were running this world instead of men it would have been a much better world. Western world is much better because women are more participating,

Yes men created the wars so they deserved to be the front line victims. Women stayed back and ran the factories in many cases. And they were more victims because they lost husbands and brothers and sons because MEN created those wars and were stubborn to accept compromise.

Men are assaulted and murdered more because they are more involved in crimes and drugs. It is a statistical fact.

Yes the thread is about  Canada and we are debating why Canada is best RELATIVE t other countries and that was why I had to point to situation in other countries.

Remember the fact that we are all here because of the angel gender.

ps - Please debate in a mature manner and express your views politely without the use of insults like wtf. After all this is a debate between civilized adults I hope or I cease the debate.

 

Also please note this thread is about Canada Day.

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9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada's past and present says otherwise....this is wishful thinking that ignores reality.

When it comes to murder, rape, torture, thievery, genocide, ... it's impossible to top the experts, the good ole US of A.

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8 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If you live in Europe (and especially in Europe like Germany and Britain and France and Eastern Europe like Russia) where gangs of skinheads physically attack people of color skin randomly and for no reason (and much worse in Middle East and Africa) then you would realize how peaceful and great Canada is and comparatively how people are living in harmony and respect. It is not perfect but it is the best. I said Canada is best country. I didn't say Canada is perfect country. We had our share of imperfection (Harper regime).

You forgot to mention about all the rapes and murders that have been happening in many European countries by those muslim and African illegal migrants? Those skinheads are not white racists. They are nationalists who have had enough of all those illegal migrants creating havoc and chaos in their streets by these ungrateful scum. 

And now we have to live with the imperfections of the JT liberal government. We have now gone from not so bad to worse. 

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11 hours ago, taxme said:

You forgot to mention about all the rapes and murders that have been happening in many European countries by those muslim and African illegal migrants? Those skinheads are not white racists. They are nationalists who have had enough of all those illegal migrants creating havoc and chaos in their streets by these ungrateful scum. 

And now we have to live with the imperfections of the JT liberal government. We have now gone from not so bad to worse. 

oh stop the nonsense defending cowards like skinheads. They attack people of colored skin whether Muslim or not and they have been attacking them for decades in groups. If they are fair they should attack those who commit those crimes not randomly attacking anyone of color skin. They are a few assaults by Muslims in Europe and also there have been assaults by non-Muslims and whites..Any coward may rape and murder and these actions are not limited to Muslim immigrants. They should be severely punished for their cowardly actions Muslims or not.

You always defend the worse. No wonder a defender of skinheads also likes Harper government.

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14 hours ago, hot enough said:

When it comes to murder, rape, torture, thievery, genocide, ... it's impossible to top the experts, the good ole US of A.

Seriously? And after I just congratulated you all on your 150th anniversary? Guess no deed goes unpunished, lol.  Can't we all just get along?

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25 minutes ago, JamesHackerMP said:

Seriously? And after I just congratulated you all on your 150th anniversary? Guess no deed goes unpunished, lol.  Can't we all just get along?

Can't we all face up to our respective countries' war crimes, crimes against humanity, terrorism, thievery, ... and get along with the peoples of the world? Aren't we supposed to be the good guys, James, hasn't the US bragged throughout its history how it is the savior of the oppressed?

What is nice about stealing the freedom of myriad peoples?

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