Providing proof/evidence that supports the US 911 Conspiracy Theory

[Omni]

10 hours ago, hot enough said:

Sensible people, who are honest enough to look at the evidence, know that Muslims didn't do what the US government said they did. 

How do you explain GW Bush describing the bombs/explosions in the PEOPLE magazine story, Michael?

How do you explain the human being blown out of the twin tower window?

How do you explain the explosions that are apparent in the video, WTC Demolition Flashes?

Sensible people don't subscribe to such conspiracy theories. When buildings collapse such as how the WTC's did,  contents therein tend to get forced outward. Hard to believe you are still flogging that same old dead horse.

[Altai]

Is there any lawsuit that filed in any court in US to investigate 9/11 event ?   or any attempts ? 


I will sue US govt about 9/11 event. 

[Omni]

5 minutes ago, Altai said:

Is there any lawsuit that filed in any court in US to investigate 9/11 event ?   or any attempts ? 


I will sue US govt about 9/11 event. 

I am quite sure you will have  trouble finding US "ambulance chasers" willing to take your funding to flog even that dead a horse. 

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, hot enough said:

Sensible people, who are honest enough to look at the evidence, know that Muslims didn't do what the US government said they did. 

How do you explain GW Bush describing the bombs/explosions in the PEOPLE magazine story, Michael?

How do you explain the human being blown out of the twin tower window?

How do you explain the explosions that are apparent in the video, WTC Demolition Flashes?

None of these are apparent or evident, in the face of the fact that planes struck those buildings.  The theory of explosives being planted is a bizarre adjunct to the facts of the story.  Picking through the events and remnants of a large scale disaster like this will always provide fuel to the conspiracy entertainment industry.  Fans of this type of entertainment will over emphasize any facts they can find to push their viewpoint.  That's all.

[Omni]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

 The theory of explosives being planted is a bizarre adjunct to the facts of the story.

I keep asking HE for an explanation as to how that planting got done, but it sees rather quiet on that front. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Omni said:

I keep asking HE for an explanation as to how that planting got done, but it sees rather quiet on that front. 

Or why - assuming you think the planes were real... which come to think of it isn't a safe assumption.

[hot enough]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

None of these are apparent or evident, in the face of the fact that planes struck those buildings.  

As always, an evidence free Michael Hardner post. Wrong engine for the WTC2 plane, Michael. Your story is already shot down.

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The theory of explosives being planted is a bizarre adjunct to the facts of the story.  

The nanothermite, the molten steel, the molten molybdenum, the vaporized lead, the iron microspheres illustrate clearly just who it is that is being studiously and petulantly bizarre, not to mention obtuse.

 

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Picking through the events and remnants of a large scale disaster like this will always provide fuel to the conspiracy entertainment industry.

Why do you cling to your spurious, totally wacky conspiracy theory? Moreover, why do you use it as a cudgel when your USGOCT has no evidence to support it? That is the epitome of dishonesty.

If you had anything, absolutely ANYTHING you considered of value, you would bring it forward. 

 

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Fans of this type of entertainment will over emphasize any facts they can find to push their viewpoint.  That's all.

False, inaccurate accusations is all you can muster. For such a solid conspiracy theory? Come on, Michael!

[hot enough]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

None of these are apparent or evident, in the face of the fact that planes struck those buildings.  

How do you explain GW Bush describing the bombs/explosions in the PEOPLE magazine story, Michael?

GW Bush describing the bombs/explosions in the PEOPLE magazine story is not "apparent or evident"?

How do you explain the human being blown out of the twin tower window?

A video of a human being blown out of the twin tower window is not "apparent or evident"?

How do you explain the explosions that are apparent in the video, WTC Demolition Flashes?

Visible explosions in the twin towers is not "apparent or evident" 

Do you understand what "apparent" and "evident" mean?

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

As always, an evidence free Michael Hardner post. Wrong engine for the WTC2 plane, Michael. Your story is already shot down.

Sorry, not the wrong engine. Different dash #'s of the same engine are often interchanged.

 

3 minutes ago, hot enough said:

The nanothermite, the molten steel, the molten molybdenum, the vaporized lead, the iron microspheres illustrate clearly just who it is that is being studiously and petulantly bizarre, not to mention obtuse.

 

Hot steel, not molten. Paint chips, not thermite.

 

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Why do you cling to your spurious, totally wacky conspiracy theory? Moreover, why do you use it as a cudgel when your USGOCT has no evidence to support it? That is the epitome of dishonesty.

You did have a look at the various videos of the planes crashing into the buildings at high speed, no?

[hot enough]

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Or why - assuming you think the planes were real... which come to think of it isn't a safe assumption.

Listen to you two. Why all the silly distractions, Michael, when you have all the available evidence for the USGOCT from the USGOC theorists?

You know that the engine found on Murray Street doesn't match the 767-200 that allegedly hit WTC2 but you still pointedly try to mislead, obfuscate, distract. Why?

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

As always, an evidence free Michael Hardner post. Wrong engine for the WTC2 plane, Michael. Your story is already shot down.

Ok, I missed that you don't believe planes hit the buildings.  Hundreds of eye witnesses must have been hypnotized by the great Bush-Mesmero then.

 

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

The nanothermite, the molten steel, the molten molybdenum, the vaporized lead, the iron microspheres illustrate clearly just who it is that is being studiously and petulantly bizarre, not to mention obtuse.

All you did was parse out the elements in the so-called evidence I described.  Nothing new.

 

4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Why do you cling to your spurious, totally wacky conspiracy theory? Moreover, why do you use it as a cudgel when your USGOCT has no evidence to support it? That is the epitome of dishonesty. 

When something is supported by eyewitnesses, it's not called a 'theory' anymore.  It's not a theory that planes hit the buildings, any more than it's a theory that the sun came up today.

Just now, hot enough said:

Do you understand what "apparent" and "evident" mean?

Though those things happened, the link between that and various harebrained conspiracy theories isn't apparent.  Why would Bush reveal the true nature of the plot he himself supposedly hatched ?

You can pore through thousands of statements, sift through the sand under the wreckage all you like... and come up with facts to support a false narrative and the conspiracy entertainment industry.  If you do that, you will find little things to perpetuate these myths.

[Omni]

Let's see, we have Alex Jones representing the 9-11 "truthers" and he sometimes uses Steven Jones debunked science to back his position. Are those two brothers per chance?

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/517122/have-conspiracy-theories-gone-mainstream/

[hot enough]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok, I missed that you don't believe planes hit the buildings.  Hundreds of eye witnesses must have been hypnotized by the great Bush-Mesmero then.

More silliness, Michael. Why do you always leap to the nuttiest of conclusions? A real question, though I already know why. 

All you did was parse out the elements in the so-called evidence I described.  Nothing new.

All you are doing is obfuscating, not providing evidence or even logical response.

When something is supported by eyewitnesses, it's not called a 'theory' anymore.  It's not a theory that planes hit the buildings, any more than it's a theory that the sun came up today.

Why then do you always deny, without evidence or reasoned logic, all the eyewitnesses to the bombs and exsplosions. Why have you avoided every question I have asked you?

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Though those things happened, the link between that and various harebrained conspiracy theories isn't apparent.  Why would Bush reveal the true nature of the plot he himself supposedly hatched ?

Your stark avoidance is noted. Bush did reveal the bombs and explosions. Can you not read? Are you this frightened of the truth?

You can pore through thousands of statements, sift through the sand under the wreckage all you like... and come up with facts to support a false narrative and the conspiracy entertainment industry.  If you do that, you will find little things to perpetuate these myths.

That's your area, Michael. I rely on science, logic, truth, things which you obviously abhor given how easily you fall into these song and dance routines.

Where's your evidence, Mr Hardner?

 

Edited September 6, 2017 by hot enough

[hot enough]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok, I missed

 

Did you miss that Omni's posts are as evidence free as yours?

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Did you miss that Omni's posts are as evidence free as yours?

Most of what Omni posts on this topic seems reasonable.  In terms of response, I point you to all the posts I have made on this topic in the past which you access via the 'search' feature.

Given that you dispute that the planes hit the building, I have to resign myself to the fact that we occupy different spheres of reality, and there is no reward for me to drag you into my sphere, given the energy it would require.  I congratulate you on your rewarding and bullet-proof framework of belief.

[Omni]

26 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Did you miss that Omni's posts are as evidence free as yours?

Nobody misses the fact you continue to dodge my question as to how the massive amount of explosives were planted in the buildings, and nobody noticed.

[hot enough]

20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Most of what Omni posts on this topic seems reasonable.  In terms of response, I point you to all the posts I have made on this topic in the past which you access via the 'search' feature.

You say the same nonsense about all the evidence free posters who support your evidence free posts/position.

Given that you dispute that the planes hit the building, I have to resign myself to the fact that we occupy different spheres of reality, and there is no reward for me to drag you into my sphere, given the energy it would require.  I congratulate you on your rewarding and bullet-proof framework of belief.

Another of the myriad famous Michael Hardner exit lines. I am amazed by your inability to read and understand. Actually, I'm not. I know that you are using the "Given that you dispute that the planes hit the building," as a phony support for another of the famous Michael Hardner exit lines. 

How phony is it for you to advance this, excuse me, utter drivel?

It is me that has brought forward the wrong engine facts. How can you draw the totally illogical conclusion from that that I say no planes hit the buildings.

Consider just the questions I've posed to you today, how many stark realities you simply will not even face up to. 

You haven't addressed a one, except to obfuscate, distract, cover up, plan your escape. 

Edited September 6, 2017 by hot enough

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Another of the myriad famous Michael Hardner exit lines. I am amazed by your inability to read and understand. Actually, I'm not. I know that you are using the "Given that you dispute that the planes hit the building," as a phony support for another of the famous Michael Hardner exit lines. 

How phony is it for you to advance this, excuse me, utter drivel? Consider just in the questions I've posed to you today, how many stark realities you simply will not even face up to. 

You haven't addressed a one, except to obfuscate, distract, cover up, plan your escape. 

OK let's go back to square one: did the planes hit the buildings or not, according to you?

 

[hot enough]

54 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok, I missed that you don't believe planes hit the buildings.  Hundreds of eye witnesses must have been hypnotized by the great Bush-Mesmero then.

Are you now parroting B_C?

This information, in and of itself, totally demolishing the USGOCT, has been posted before. It is from an airline accident investigator, an ex-military US Colonel.

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In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft — and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling.

Following a certain number of flying hours or, in the case of landing gears, a certain number of takeoff-and-landing cycles, these critical parts are required to be changed, overhauled or inspected by specialist mechanics. When these parts are installed, their serial numbers are married to the aircraft registration numbers in the aircraft records and the plans and scheduling section will notify maintenance specialists when the parts must be replaced. If the parts are not replaced within specified time or cycle limits, the airplane will normally be grounded until the maintenance action is completed. Most of these time-change parts, whether hydraulic flight surface actuators , pumps, landing gears, engines or engine components, are virtually indestructible. It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible.

Considering the catastrophic incidents of September 11 2001, certain troubling but irrefutable conclusions must be drawn from the known facts. I get no personal pleasure or satisfaction from reporting my own assessment of these facts.

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Conclusion

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode.

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious, but small hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but no evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government's alleged version of what actually caused the total destruction of the WTC buildings, let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. It is time to apply the precautionary principle.

As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history.

http://physics911.net/georgenelson/

 

 

[taxme]

8 hours ago, Omni said:

Sensible people don't subscribe to such conspiracy theories. When buildings collapse such as how the WTC's did,  contents therein tend to get forced outward. Hard to believe you are still flogging that same old dead horse.

Sensible people will look and read both sides of the story. HE has given you plenty of reasons as to why this 9/11 appears to have been a well planned and staged event. As an example, the owner of the towers was a guy by the name of Silverstein who apparently would go pretty much every day to the top of one of his towers and have is breakfast. But how fortunate for him that day ???? that he just happened to have a dentist appointment. I wonder if he really did have an appointment. Someone should go checkout out the dentist records. But then again, his dentist would probably be told to fix the books to make it appear as though he did go to the dentist that day. 

So, was it just coincidence or did he already know what was going to happen?  AE911 seems to feel that he knew what was going to happen before it happened. Dream on little one. If the world as to depend on people like you for the true and real facts of any event then the world will be left in a state of stupidity for eternity, and the perpetrators of this crime will be left to carry on with their world wide shenanigans as usual that they have been allowed to get away with for so long.  Your horse is dead.  Just saying. 

[Omni]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

AE911

 

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Dream on little one.

Yes indeed little one.

HE has provided nothing other than what the likes of Steven Jones have tried to flog as "evidence".

[taxme]

2 hours ago, hot enough said:

Are you now parroting B_C?

This information, in and of itself, totally demolishing the USGOCT, has been posted before. It is from an airline accident investigator, an ex-military US Colonel.

 

 

Only the most powerful people with great influence can get away with a crime like this. The plane that was suppose to hit the Pentagon somehow magically disappeared. Not one piece of the plane was found at the scene. That hole in the wall could not have been done by a plane but more like a missile. The plane could not have gone thru two walls. It would have been stopped at the first wall. Only a missile would be able to go thru two walls. But when you run and rule the world you pretty much can say and do whatever you want to say and do and their control of the corporate media will be speaking for them, and helping them spread their lies. The system is a well organized and controlled establishment system. We the people are just slaves and pawns in that system. Aw well.  

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, Omni said:

 

Yes indeed little one.

HE has provided nothing other than what the likes of Steven Jones have tried to flog as "evidence".

You don't have to rely on HE. There are plenty of websites that will give people like you a different perspective as to what may have really taken place on that day, and as to who may have been behind it all. But for now the liars and bull chiiters on 9/11 are winning the battle, for now. And the evidence that you try to flog here has been easily challenged and shown as totally false. On the internet I remember looking at a video of listening to some British reporter talking about the twin towers that have fallen down. The problem with her report was that we all could see that the buildings were  still standing behind her. What more proof does anyone need that this was a conspiracy and a big crime committed against they the people. They ay that 3000 people died because of these scum whom were behind the scenes pulling the strings. If so, I would say that was quite the mass murder of innocent people by an elite who could careless about life and limb. The bringing down of the towers was a part of a bigger plan in the making. Aw well. 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, hot enough said:

Another of the myriad famous Michael Hardner exit lines. I am amazed by your inability to read and understand. Actually, I'm not. I know that you are using the "Given that you dispute that the planes hit the building," as a phony support for another of the famous Michael Hardner exit lines. 

How phony is it for you to advance this, excuse me, utter drivel?

It is me that has brought forward the wrong engine facts. How can you draw the totally illogical conclusion from that that I say no planes hit the buildings.

Consider just the questions I've posed to you today, how many stark realities you simply will not even face up to. 

You haven't addressed a one, except to obfuscate, distract, cover up, plan your escape. 

Normally after an accident or crime scene, the area is taped off by the police for them to do their investigation.  But look what happened after the event?  All the building metal and steel parts that were brought down by those ghostly planes were all picked up as quickly as possible and shipped over to China as quickly as possible and was melted down as soon as was possible in China. So much for a proper investigation to be done, eh? We the  people will never learn the truth about 9/11 because the system that we all  live in is a well controlled phony system full of lies and deceit. One can only hope that Donald Trump can drain that swamp. Maybe after that those elite aliens will finally face justice. We must wait and hope. 

[Omni]

15 minutes ago, taxme said:

You don't have to rely on HE. There are plenty of websites that will give people like you a different perspective as to what may have really taken place on that day, and as to who may have been behind it all. But for now the liars and bull chiiters on 9/11 are winning the battle, for now. And the evidence that you try to flog here has been easily challenged and shown as totally false. On the internet I remember looking at a video of listening to some British reporter talking about the twin towers that have fallen down. The problem with her report was that we all could see that the buildings were  still standing behind her. What more proof does anyone need that this was a conspiracy and a big crime committed against they the people. They ay that 3000 people died because of these scum whom were behind the scenes pulling the strings. If so, I would say that was quite the mass murder of innocent people by an elite who could careless about life and limb. The bringing down of the towers was a part of a bigger plan in the making. Aw well. 

Ah no, nothing's been challenged. I saw the planes fly into the buildings. And I'm still waiting to hear what the answer is to my the question as to how the required tons of explosives required got planted in the buildings so that Bush could blow them up. 

I keep getting out the popcorn, but never an answer.

But I do like to tweek the conspiracists once in a while to see what wild idea they have deflected to of late.