Providing proof/evidence that supports the US 911 Conspiracy Theory

[hot enough]

14 minutes ago, Omni said:

zero evidence, AGAIN, from a conspiracy theorist that can't produce one speck of evidence for his conspiracy theory.

Evidence from a real specialist.

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.  Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College.  34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot.  Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

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Conclusion

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode.

https://www.ff911truthandunity.org/col-george-nelson

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Evidence from a real specialist.

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.  Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College.  34-year Air Force career. Licensed commercial pilot.  Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.

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Conclusion

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode.

https://www.ff911truthandunity.org/col-george-nelson

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/27/nyregion/airplane-debris-found-near-world-trade-center-site.html

[hot enough]

11 minutes ago, Omni said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/27/nyregion/airplane-debris-found-near-world-trade-center-site.html

No serial numbered parts! I guess you don't understand what the word 'evidence' means. Typical of conspiracy theorists/USOCT conspiracy theorists.

You are grasping at straws. No evidence AGAIN, from the conspiracy theorist whose conspiracy theory obviously has no evidence. Col Nelson, a real accident investigator also points out how the "aircraft" debris was being picked up by a group of people from the Pentagon lawn, including the arch liar Donald Rumsfeld, all in complete defiance of what a REAL accident investigation is like but the USOCT conspiracy theorists all  think this is normal. 

[Omni]

5 minutes ago, hot enough said:

No serial numbered parts! I guess you don't understand what the word 'evidence' means. Typical of conspiracy theorists/USOCT conspiracy theorists.

You are grasping at straws. No evidence AGAIN, from the conspiracy theorist whose conspiracy theory obviously has no evidence. Col Nelson, a real accident investigator also points out how the "aircraft" debris was being picked up by a group of people from the Pentagon lawn, including the arch liar Donald Rumsfeld, all in complete defiance of what a REAL accident investigation is like but the USOCT conspiracy theorists all  think this is normal. 

I guess you didn't read the article. Landing gear has serial #'s on it. 

Now how about my question about holograms?

 

[hot enough]

15 minutes ago, Omni said:

I guess you didn't read the article. Landing gear has serial #'s on it.

 

And the zero evidence conspiracy theorist, AGAIN, forgets to show that this serial number is a match for what "plane".

Perhaps you might want to look up 'evidence' in a dictionary. 

Edited October 6, 2017 by hot enough

[Omni]

36 minutes ago, hot enough said:

And the zero evidence conspiracy theorist, AGAIN, forgets to show that this serial number is a match for what "plane".

Perhaps you might want to look up 'evidence' in a dictionary. 

Still waiting for your reply to the hologram issue

 

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

12 hours ago, hot enough said:

Veeeeeeeery interesting. Now about the no airliner parts being IDed. 

Personally I think there were plenty of IDable parts lying around but I don't know I wasn't there (I don't think you were either), obviously something hit the twin towers, the pentagon and created a crater in Pennsylvania. Are the people that were aboard these flights missing? 

I don't find it too big of stretch for some to believe some human sacrifice is acceptable for the "cause", whether it be war, travel, space flight, whatever, it's human nature. It's no different then sacrificing wilderness and wildlife for suburban development, energy exploration, travel, tourism and so on.

 How many of us would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand lives for a few billion dollars? It's been said everyone has a price... 

[Michael Hardner]

43 minutes ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

 How many of us would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand lives for a few billion dollars? It's been said everyone has a price...

What you're missing is the risk involved.  Somebody who already has billions wouldn't be willing to invest billions if the risk is prosecution and losing everything.  How much would it cost to ensure the silence of thousands of people involved ?  100K per person ?  How would you enforce silence ?  I think you would have to have zero paper trail and zero electronic footprint on communication which would make the project exceedingly complex.  

My experience is that people who buy into these theories lack a basic understanding of organization.  Without motive, resources, risk/reward, no conspiracy like this could be greenlit.  When you look at those elements, the 'inside job' theory falls apart immediately.

[hot enough]

13 hours ago, Omni said:

Still waiting for your reply ... 

Zero evidence from the conspiracy theorist. As always. Not one serial numbered part for any of the 911 planes and shockingly, there are USOCT conspiracy theorists who still pretend that the USOCT has any truth to it.

AMAZING!!!

Alleged pilots that couldn't fly a Cessna single engine but USOCT conspiracy theorists are told they could hop in 757s/767s and fly them to their destinations, doing all manner of difficult flying technique and the totally gullible USOCT conspiracy theorists buy such nonsense, such utter drivel.

DOUBLY AMAZING!!!!

 

[hot enough]

4 hours ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

Personally I think there were plenty of IDable parts lying around but I don't know I wasn't there (I don't think you were either), obviously something hit the twin towers, the pentagon and created a crater in Pennsylvania.

With all due respect, it doesn't matter what you THINK, Tostb, what matters is that not a one of the roughly 4 million parts has ever been connected to any of the 4 alleged planes of 911. That is something that in and of itself totally sinks the USOCT, but there is much much more evidence that sinks the USOCT and, the truly incredible thing, absolutely no evidence FOR  the USGOCT.

But the gullible keep on pretending they believe.

The 767 that was alleged to have hit WTC2 had one engine fly thru the structure and land on Murray Street. That engine was identified but the trouble is it was an engine that WAS NOT USED in the United Airlines Boeing 767-200s. Another thing that in and of itself totally sinks the USOCT.

All the evidence points clearly to whatever hits the towers, whatever hit the Pentagon, whatever was shot down in SV wasn't what was alleged or they would have matched parts, they would have done what they always do, gather all the parts and reassemble each plane in a hangar and do all the testing they can do to discover what can be discovered. 

But the gullible keep on pretending they believe.

4 hours ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

I don't find it too big of stretch for some to believe some human sacrifice is acceptable for the "cause", whether it be war, travel, space flight, whatever, it's human nature. It's no different then sacrificing wilderness and wildlife for suburban development, energy exploration, travel, tourism and so on.

 How many of us would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand lives for a few billion dollars? It's been said everyone has a price... 

The scientific evidence, the total impossibilities found within the USOCT which the USGOCT conspiracy theorists like Omni, Michael Hardner, ... totally ignore shows that it clearly WAS NOT 19 Arab hijackers. 

But for whatever totally crazy, illogical reasons, these gullible folks keep on pretending they believe.

[hot enough]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

[My text is in red, Michael Hardner's text is in black]

What you're missing is the risk involved. 

What you are missing, totally on purpose, which illustrates a high degree of dishonesty from you, Michael, is the science, the evidence, the facts that show the US Government Official Conspiracy Theory [USGOCT] has a zero chance of being true. 

Just the chance of the entire event happening as described by the USGOCT is roughly 500 trillion to one. 

Somebody who already has billions wouldn't be willing to invest billions if the risk is prosecution and losing everything.  How much would it cost to ensure the silence of thousands of people involved ?  100K per person ?  How would you enforce silence ?  I think you would have to have zero paper trail and zero electronic footprint on communication which would make the project exceedingly complex.  

Michael Hardner is too afraid to address me or the science, the facts, the truth, the evidence. Instead he makes pronouncements on things he doesn't know anything about.

There have been many many US false flags where nobody has uttered a word. The Gulf of Tonkin stayed silent until McNamara revealed it before his death.

Gulf of Tonkin: McNamara admits It didn't happen.

These science denying anti-truthers can't seem to make the simplest logical deductions.

Molten/vaporized steel, which was melted/vaporized by the nanothermite/thermate that was found in WTC dust means that there COULD NOT HAVE BEEN  any hijackers. Nobody but the US government/military had access to the nanothermite. 

What logical conclusion must be drawn from that, Michael?

There was no legal/legitimate/known available fuel present at WTC that could reach temperatures anywhere close enough to melt, let alone vaporize steel. 

What logical conclusion must be drawn from that, Michael?

My experience is that people who buy into these theories lack a basic understanding of organization.  Without motive, resources, risk/reward, no conspiracy like this could be greenlit.  When you look at those elements, the 'inside job' theory falls apart immediately.

You might have a point if, one, this wasn't the USA, who you know has lied about many other similar situations/events; two, there wasn't so much totally undeniable scientific/legal/logical evidence that makes it impossible for this to have been done by 19 Arab hijackers.

You are making arguments that are totally spurious, only meant to distract and divert attention away from all the impossibilities in the USG Official Conspiracy Theory.

Edited October 6, 2017 by hot enough

[Omni]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

Zero evidence from the conspiracy theorist. As always. Not one serial numbered part for any of the 911 planes and shockingly, there are USOCT conspiracy theorists who still pretend that the USOCT has any truth to it.

AMAZING!!!

Alleged pilots that couldn't fly a Cessna single engine but USOCT conspiracy theorists are told they could hop in 757s/767s and fly them to their destinations, doing all manner of difficult flying technique and the totally gullible USOCT conspiracy theorists buy such nonsense, such utter drivel.

DOUBLY AMAZING!!!!

 

A number of the hijackers had actually taken their flying training in the States. 

[Omni]

1 hour ago, hot enough said:

Zero evidence from the conspiracy theorist. As always. Not one serial numbered part for any of the 911 planes and shockingly, there are USOCT conspiracy theorists who still pretend that the USOCT has any truth to it.

AMAZING!!!

Alleged pilots that couldn't fly a Cessna single engine but USOCT conspiracy theorists are told they could hop in 757s/767s and fly them to their destinations, doing all manner of difficult flying technique and the totally gullible USOCT conspiracy theorists buy such nonsense, such utter drivel.

DOUBLY AMAZING!!!!

 

And I'd like to hear what you suggest were the "difficult flying techniques". Once an aircraft is in cruise flight you don't have to be Ace McCool to drive it into an office building. Of course without any flying experience you wouldn't know that.

Edited October 6, 2017 by Omni

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Omni said:

A number of the hijackers had actually taken their flying training in the States. 

Zero evidence and you don't even seem to be embarrassed by these terribly dismal efforts. It is truly amazing.

I think that you once advanced the silly notion that you have some flying experience. 

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Zero evidence and you don't even seem to be embarrassed by these terribly dismal efforts. It is truly amazing.

I think that you once advanced the silly notion that you have some flying experience. 

I don't have "some", I have quite a bit.

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Omni said:

I don't have "some", I have quite a bit.

You have to be pulling the collective leg. Nobody could have "quite a bit" and be advancing such silly nonsense.

Unless such person is deliberately prevaricating to everyone in order to deceive, in order to defend a totally vacant, totally false USGOCT. 

But I have noticed that that is what a lot of USGOCT conspiracy theorists do. Even when they know almost nothing about the events/science of 911.

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You have to be pulling the collective leg. Nobody could have "quite a bit" and be advancing such silly nonsense.

Unless such person is deliberately prevaricating to everyone in order to deceive, in order to defend a totally vacant, totally false USGOCT. 

But I have noticed that that is what a lot of USGOCT conspiracy theorists do. Even when they know almost nothing about the events/science of 911.

What I know about a collective is it's the lever you pull on to lift a helicopter into the air. Now here's some reading for you (again) perhaps go educate yourself on the issue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248232/Flight-school-owner-unwittingly-trained-9-11-hijackers-accused-trafficking-cocaine-heroin.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks

 

[hot enough]

14 minutes ago, Omni said:

What I know about a collective is 

Nothing at all. You don't even seem to know the difference between a noun and an adjective. 

The "pilot" can't seem to provide evidence even from his/her own experience.  

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

Nothing at all. You don't even seem to know the difference between a noun and an adjective. 

The "pilot" can't seem to provide evidence even from his/her own experience.  

Look up what the controls of a helicopter are called and get back to us.

[hot enough]

15 minutes ago, Omni said:

Look up what the controls of a helicopter are called and get back to us.

As I said, you don't even know the difference between a noun [the helicopter lever] and an adjective in the NP "the collective leg". 

This has always been the case in the sum total of your interactions on 911 science/events/issues. You are the worst example of this but pretty much everyone has been similar in nature to you. 

Your diversions and distractions are all meant to hide the fact that you never have any evidence; you, who purports to be a "pilot" cannot even offer reasoned commentary on something that is supposedly within your range of knowledge.  

[Omni]

1 minute ago, hot enough said:

As I said, you don't even know the difference between a noun [the helicopter lever] and an adjective in the NP "the collective leg". 

This has always been the case in the sum total of your interactions on 911 science/events/issues. You are the worst example of this but pretty much everyone has been similar in nature to you. 

Your diversions and distractions are all meant to hide the fact that you never have any evidence; you, who purports to be a "pilot" cannot even offer reasoned commentary on something that is supposedly within your range of knowledge.  

You haven't had time to do the reading I linked for you so go get that done and then we'll hear from you.

[hot enough]

10 minutes ago, Omni said:

You haven't had time to do the reading I linked for you so go get that done and then we'll hear from you.

Why is the grand "pilot" quoting Wikipedia and the Mirror?

It's better if you come clean and admit that you aren't a pilot. There has never been any pilot like information/evidence EVER put forward by you, the "pilot"! 

[Omni]

3 minutes ago, hot enough said:

Why is the grand "pilot" quoting Wikipedia and the Mirror?

It's better if you come clean and admit that you aren't a pilot. There has never been any pilot like information/evidence EVER put forward by you, the "pilot"! 

Because I like more credible sources than the likes of the conspiracy theorists such as AE9/11 et al. You do see that some of the pilots were actually trained in the US though. And I have explained how easy it would be to fly an airliner into a building even with a basic pilot training.

[hot enough]

27 minutes ago, Omni said:

And I have explained how easy it would be to fly an airliner into a building even with a basic pilot training.

You also don't understand what "explain" means. No evidence, no explaining, just a flat out silly assertion. It's best if you come clean - you are not a pilot. 

Edited October 6, 2017 by hot enough

[Omni]

2 minutes ago, hot enough said:

You also don't understand what "explain" means. No evidence, no explaining, just a flat out silly assertion. It's best if you come clean - you are not a pilot. 

My stack of log books says otherwise.