Boges Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kactus said: They very fact that Trump's impeachment is being discussed in open should surely send the warning signs to the White House.... It was being discussed before he was inaugurated. He's probably the most divisive politician I've ever seen. BUT the actions of a Neo Nazi group that you cite in your OP certainly isn't reason enough to impeach him. Edited February 9, 2017 by Boges Quote
kactus Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Posted February 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Boges said: It was being discussed before he was inaugurated. He's probably the most divisive politician I've ever seen. BUT the actions of a Neo Nazi group that you cite in your OP certainly isn't reason enough to impeach him. How long is the piece of string? Or let me put it more eloquently.....what else is it that you want to see from this president to make the impeachment a possibility? Because let me tell you deporting a whole lot of people as the article says just based on their religion is pretty darn going that direction.... Quote
Boges Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, kactus said: How long is the piece of string? Or let me put it more eloquently.....what else is it that you want to see from this president to make the impeachment a possibility? Because let me tell you deporting a whole lot of people as the article says just based on their religion is pretty darn going that direction.... I'm not American. Like most things American, it's great entertainment. One thing you can say about Trump is that he's not exactly a Hawk, so perhaps the chances of starting WW3 is actually lesser now. I'm more concerned with the clown he's going to meet next Monday and what he's doing here. I'm hopeful that his isolationist tactics aren't going to hurt Canada, but we'll see. I've seen no Anti-Canadian rhetoric yet from the Trump Administration, we'll see how next week turns out. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 Bigotry in the U.S. (and Canada) hasn't changed at all because of President Trump. Whatever well documented bigotry that existed in either country is not increased beyond what it already was/is. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Posted February 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boges said: I'm not American. Like most things American, it's great entertainment. One thing you can say about Trump is that he's not exactly a Hawk, so perhaps the chances of starting WW3 is actually lesser now. I'm more concerned with the clown he's going to meet next Monday and what he's doing here. I'm hopeful that his isolationist tactics aren't going to hurt Canada, but we'll see. I've seen no Anti-Canadian rhetoric yet from the Trump Administration, we'll see how next week turns out. Well I guess we will find sooner rather than later how the ban is going to play out with Geoff Sessions the attorney general giving a press conf. For sure there will be more fire crackers to expect next week... Quote
Bonam Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, kactus said: How long is the piece of string? Or let me put it more eloquently.....what else is it that you want to see from this president to make the impeachment a possibility? Democrats might try to impeach him if they happen to retake Congress in 2018. Until then, I don't think there's anything he could do that would make the Republicans try to impeach him. I think he could literally kill a child with his bare hands on video and not be impeached. 1 Quote
Boges Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 They would have to campaign on it, just how Trump campaigned on axing ObamaCare. Quote
Omni Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Boges said: I'm not American. Like most things American, it's great entertainment. One thing you can say about Trump is that he's not exactly a Hawk, so perhaps the chances of starting WW3 is actually lesser now. I'm more concerned with the clown he's going to meet next Monday and what he's doing here. I'm hopeful that his isolationist tactics aren't going to hurt Canada, but we'll see. I've seen no Anti-Canadian rhetoric yet from the Trump Administration, we'll see how next week turns out. Maybe Trump ism't a hawk, I'm not so sure but: Bannon was conducting an interview on Breitbart radio with conservative author Lee Edwards when he said: We’re going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years, aren’t we? There’s no doubt about that. They’re taking their sandbars and making basically stationary aircraft carriers and putting missiles on those. They come here to the United States in front of our face—and you understand how important face is—and say it’s an ancient territorial sea. Quote
Argus Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, Omni said: Maybe Trump ism't a hawk, I'm not so sure but: Bannon was conducting an interview on Breitbart radio with conservative author Lee Edwards when he said: We’re going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years, aren’t we? There’s no doubt about that. They’re taking their sandbars and making basically stationary aircraft carriers and putting missiles on those. They come here to the United States in front of our face—and you understand how important face is—and say it’s an ancient territorial sea. He's not wrong. China has long embraced 'alternative facts'. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Argus said: He's not wrong. China has long embraced 'alternative facts'. Well Trump did say something a while back about why have nuclear weapons if you don't use them. Quote
Omni Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 I just had a flashback to Dr. Strangelove only with Donald Trump taking the ride instead of Slim Pickens. Quote
Boges Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 America First is something they said in the lead up to WW2 to keep out of foreign wars. He seems less concerned with international conflicts. Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 No need to fear if you are an honest and upstanding citizen. If you are afraid though, there must be a reason. Quote
kactus Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Posted February 12, 2017 Anyone seen this? Quote Donald Trump was not wearing a translation earpiece as he nodded along and appeared to listen intently to remarks from Shinzo Abe, the Japanese prime minister, at the White House on Friday. Asked if Trump had worn an earpiece, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House deputy press secretary, said: “I don’t believe during that time. But he did see the text and they spoke quite extensively before the remarks.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/10/shinzo-abe-donald-trump-earpiece-translation Ofcourse since Trump has vested business interests in Japan everything that comes out of the Japanese Prime Minister should be music to your ear Mr Trump...no earpiece and nodding your head. Looks like America first is substituted for Trump's business first lost in translation. Quote
kactus Posted February 15, 2017 Author Report Posted February 15, 2017 There has not been much coverage about this and at the moment it is based on an opinion. However, given the recent tensions and rhetoric of war of words following Muslim ban from those 7 countries there is one hypothesis that determines the shape of the long term US strategy in the Middle East. IMO the banning of Iranians to US is not a coincident and is something that has been planned by Trump... Furthermore, no Iranian has ever attacked US soil in the past and to ban its citizens from entering the country for 3 months could mean one possibility.... The Trump administration is planning to attack Iran regardless if the Iranians comply or not. That decision has already been made and to ban Iranians from going to US is top preempt any attack that Iran can implicate on US soil. I think if this scenario is true the Trump is doing a grave mistake involving a protracted war on no solid grounds. 1 Quote
Thinkinoutsidethebox Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 Although Trump isn't that bright he's as slippery as an eel and it's amazing how someone with his personality can work the system. Look at what he's pulled so far and gotten away with... Grab some popcorn, find a chair, sit back and watch Quote
-TSS- Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 People always complain how a nation is divided in elections. Well, with two main-candidates that is inevitable, isnt it? Would it be preferable if there was an election where one candidate received over 90% of the votes. Then the nation couldn't be called divided. However, that if anything, would be very worrysome. Quote
kactus Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Posted February 23, 2017 Actions speak louder than voice...One month taking the office and this is the outcome. You gotta admit it doesn't help Trump to win the hearts and minds when the country has become so divisive.... A majority of Americans are embarrassed by President Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/23/a-majority-of-americans-are-embarrassed-by-president-trump/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.851bf7b23c22 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, kactus said: Actions speak louder than voice...One month taking the office and this is the outcome. You gotta admit it doesn't help Trump to win the hearts and minds when the country has become so divisive.... Become ? No, the United States was "divisive" long before Trump came along. Obama only made it more divisive...so Trump can do the same. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Become ? No, the United States was "divisive" long before Trump came along. Obama only made it more divisive...so Trump can do the same. Yet it is the Democrat Presidents that seem to start the wars. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Become ? No, the United States was "divisive" long before Trump came along. Obama only made it more divisive...so Trump can do the same. Not to this extent. You cannot deny this. Oh I get it it's the fault of Democrats that Bush went to war with Saddam. It's Democrats fault that Trump is incapable to get one thing right. And if not Democrats why not play the Trudeau Carf and blame Canada... Trump may have a bigger responsibility for sure but Amerucans being embarrased by him? Common! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, kactus said: Not to this extent. You cannot deny this. Yes I can....U.S. history is filled with lots of "divisiveness". It is an "American value". The Democrats had the very divisive Vietnam War...much bigger deal than Iraq. Being "embarrassed" is a Canadian value. Edited February 24, 2017 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, kactus said: At first glance this graph appears to be `weighted``incorrectly. Assume that the democrat and republican bars cancel out, since they cover about the same area but in reverse. If they were compared exclusively the ``All`` would be at 50%. Independents are tilted towards embarrassed, hence the ``All`` essentially looks like the independent data. But the number of independents must be quite small compared to the total of Democrats and Republicans. IE Fake data. Quote
?Impact Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: IE Fake data. What is most astounding is that almost 80% of Republics are proud of Trump - that says a whole lot there. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Posted February 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, ?Impact said: What is most astounding is that almost 80% of Republics are proud of Trump - that says a whole lot there. Why wouldn't they be ? Trump delivered the presidency to the GOP when all others failed, including Senator John McCain. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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