Smallc Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 When did this suddenly become a banning offence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 No, you are not allowed to delete ALL of your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 So, I feel I asked a legitimate question - in light of that: 1 ) Why was my thread closed? I had follow up questions. 2 ) How many deleted posts is too many? Did the member that I'm obviously referring to delete all of his posts? If not, this banning makes no sense unless you can give me a number. Now I have further questions. 3 )Who is the legal owner of the posts of individual members on this site? Answer that carefully, because I have a further question. 4 )Who is legally responsible for the posts of individual members on this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, Smallc said: 1 ) Why was my thread closed? --- because your question misrepresented reality. Nobody was banned for editing a post. REALITY: Somebody was banned for deleting ALL of his posts and the banning stopped that trolling. Quote I had follow up questions. You started VERY wrong and I have no patience for folks who misrepresent moderator interventions. The rest of your questions are irrelevent to folks who do not troll. Just follow the forum rules and guidelines and all will be fine. Now, my turn: What is your best guess of the intentions of a person who deletes ALL of his posts? What would YOU do if you were moderator?? What is the difference between permitting a member to delete ALL of his posts and banning the member??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Better yet, rather than a self imposed banning maybe I can get it imposed from the man himself: Charles, take your heavy handed bull shit moderation and shove it up your ass. How's you like them trolls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said: --- because your question misrepresented reality. Nobody was banned for editing a post. REALITY: Somebody was banned for deleting ALL of his posts and the banning stopped that trolling. All of them - all 30,000 posts? Further, I said edit and or delete - it was an inclusive question. The proper response would have been to answer each question, not to get all huffy and close the thread. 16 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said: You started VERY wrong and I have no patience for folks who misrepresent moderator interventions. Charles, you've misrepresented your own moderation.by claiming you acted in response to someone deleting all of their post, yet i can still find content by the member. 18 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said: The rest of your questions are irrelevent to folks who do not troll. Just follow the forum rules and guidelines and all will be fine. Trolling and legal ownership/responsibility are not necessarily related things. 19 minutes ago, Charles Anthony said: Now, my turn: What is your best guess of the intentions of a person who deletes ALL of his posts? What would YOU do if you were moderator?? What is the difference between permitting a member to delete ALL of his posts and banning the member??? If I had ownership of this website, I assure you, things would be very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 BTW - I wasn't kidding. If Greg is no longer interested in this website, I'm happy to take over the costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's ridiculous that a member should be banned for deleting his own posts. Even more ridiculous when the moderator cannot provide a reasonable case for that banning, but gets huffy instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Deleting all/many posts vandalizes the forum. Additional actions/intentions by such a member are unknown and should not be permitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Deleting all/many posts vandalizes the forum. Additional actions/intentions by such a member are unknown and should not be permitted. Freedom of expression is never universally accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Freedom of expression is never universally accepted. Freedom of expression rights do not apply to private web forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Freedom of expression rights do not apply to private web forums. There's the rule, and then the spirit. We got no rule, nor no spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Freedom of expression rights do not apply to private web forums. You can tell, by how much they are not accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Deleting all/many posts vandalizes the forum. Additional actions/intentions by such a member are unknown and should not be permitted. I understand the need for continuity. Couldn't there be a deadline on deleting posts? Within a week, say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, bcsapper said: I understand the need for continuity. Couldn't there be a deadline on deleting posts? Within a week, say? Yes, the website could be changed to not allow editing past 1 week, or whatever. Instead, we have a knee-jerk Mod who gets huffy and bans the member... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, bcsapper said: I understand the need for continuity. Couldn't there be a deadline on deleting posts? Within a week, say? Not if done in such wholesale, malicious fashion. Many members have deleted individual posts before without consequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Not if done in such wholesale, malicious fashion. Many members have deleted individual posts before without consequence. I understand, but there's no... compassion, dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I understand, but there's no... compassion, dammit! Throw a tantrum....get suspended / banned. I suspect that the admin has/will also review this. Those who object can make cheesy signs and go to the airport to protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Throw a tantrum....get suspended / banned. I suspect that the admin has/will also review this. Those who object can make cheesy signs and go to the airport to protest. And those who cheer-lead the ban will continue to troll this topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, The_Squid said: And those who cheer-lead the ban will continue to troll this topic... Indeed...should I be able to edit all 45,000 posts down to "." ? Many here would like that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I suspect the banning was a culmination of things, as the member in question was known to be extremely insulting towards the moderators on prior occasions - not to mention me, which is why he was on my ignore list. Nevertheless, I do think banning is an overreaction. If the thousands of posts here are considered to be, in some way, a kind of archive of Canadian political thought then we should be informed of this beforehand, not punished after we try to delete our posts. I also think that simply blocking people from deleting posts after a week or a month or something would be a relatively simple way to deal with the concern of 'the archive' being damaged. I can see people wanting to delete some of the more controversial things they've posted out of concern someone they know might read them, but we all use anon identities here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 But the risk of continued membership includes more than just deletion of his/her own posts. The next tantrum driven actions might include malicious quotations of other members' posts, image trolling, scripted bot posts, SQL injection, harassing messages, etc. Once a member exhibits purposely malicious behaviour(s) then it is prudent to not wait for the next tantrum manifestation. Nobody has the right to MLW membership. Also, other members have requested that their accounts be suspended and the mods have accommodated them without issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I suspect another issue comes with regard to the thread that Charles locked. The opening post was deleted, leaving newcomers with little idea what the damned thread was about, even though there were dozens of pages of conversation which followed. Since there was no longer any OP I guess that was why Charles blocked that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Indeed...should I be able to edit all 45,000 posts down to "." ? Many here would like that ! Just the ones where you slag canada and canadians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, Hal 9000 said: Just the ones where you slag canada and canadians. Those are necessary to provide balance to this universe with far more anti-'murican posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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