Peter F Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, betsy said: the President is taking steps to be pro-active rather than reactive when it comes to our nation's safety and security" Yah, the presidents steps to block muslims from those middle-eastern countries really would have put the kibosh on Bissonnette shooting muslims in Quebec city. Lesson Learned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Peter F said: Whats out of his control? Saying Canada welcomes refugee's ? We do! Have done for a long time. Did you miss all the stuff about Syrian refugee's? It is totally within Canada's control to welcome all sorts and the USofA has total control over not welcoming them. Does NAFTA need looking after? I thought it had all been negotiated and settled. Trump says he's gonna renegotiate it. So we'll do so. Trumps the best negotiator isn't he? He's a really great negotiator right? He won't let childish resentments over Trudeau's tweets mess things up will he? No of course not. He'll negotiate for the USofA's best interests; We'll negotiate for ours and all will be well with the world again. Trudeau's tweets won't mean shit. Yes, your right, WTF were we thinking.....Trump has always been pretty cool when he tweets right, i mean he has shown great restraint right.....once you get him going then what ? he has already dismissed the mexican president for commenting he will not pay for the wall.....He is going to negotiate what is best for America, we have seen that already with mexico.....so lets piss him off see what we can lose.....i mean it is better to stand up and be right....poke the bear in the eye.....piss him off and they're won't be any negotiating, more of him telling us how it it is going to be...and our PM coming home and explaining how f***ed we are..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 So Trumps a childish twit subject to all sorts of whims and idiot resentments. So we should endeavour to seriously sit down and try to get any deal we can with such a twerp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Peter F said: So Trumps a childish twit subject to all sorts of whims and idiot resentments. So we should endeavour to seriously sit down and try to get any deal we can with such a twerp? That's what bullies want, with their entourage "Yessirring" in unison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Peter F said: So Trumps a childish twit subject to all sorts of whims and idiot resentments. So we should endeavour to seriously sit down and try to get any deal we can with such a twerp? Ya unless you like eating dirt , lets remember what is at stake here, The US is Canada largest trading partner.....what a coup it would be if he took from Canada all those automotive jobs back, we need them more than they need us......So as the leader of the entire nation you do what has to be done....while we are eating dirt, what do you think the trudeaus will be eating....sun shine and rainbows baby.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dialamah said: That's what bullies want, with their entourage "Yessirring" in unison. Thats what we pay him for to Yes sir all the way down the hall and into his car......he can say what ever he wants in his home.....want to be the man that gets all the yes sirs....spend a trillion dollars on defence, be the worlds policemen.....Until then we sit at the kiddies table, and yes sir it all day... Edited February 1, 2017 by Army Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, Army Guy said: Thats what we pay him for to Yes sir all the way down the hall and into his car......he can say what ever he wants in his home..... No, that's not what we pay him for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Smallc said: No, that's not what we pay him for. what do you think we pay him for, to be the defender of the oppressed.....to feed the worlds starving, to wear a super frenchmen uniform with SF on the front ....what do we pay him for.....is it to further the liberal cause....or further Canada's cause....and ensure we continue to prosper as a nation, not risk it all, so some liberals can stand up in the bar tomorrow and say we showed them US bastards.....and 3 days after that while eating there second plate of dirt, that morning and having second thoughts about was it worth it.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, Peter F said: So Trumps a childish twit subject to all sorts of whims and idiot resentments. So we should endeavour to seriously sit down and try to get any deal we can with such a twerp? Your job does not, I take it, depend on the 75% of our exports which go to the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Smallc said: No, that's not what we pay him for. We pay him to look after our interests, not the interests of countries halfway around the world. If he wants to defend Somalia's interest let him move there and get enough guns together to take over the place - after he converts to Islam, of course. Edited February 1, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Your job does not, I take it, depend on the 75% of our exports which go to the US. None of their jobs rely on it, shit and this just came to me , they may not even be in the working class....they just want to be in "Im right class....regardless of the consequences....Had a dog like that once.....had to shoot it....it had a bad case of liberalitis god bless his sole, named him Chretien....kept barking out of the side of his month.... Edited February 1, 2017 by Army Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Army Guy said: what do you think we pay him for, to be the defender of the oppressed.....to feed the worlds starving, to wear a super frenchmen uniform with SF on the front ....what do we pay him for.....is it to further the liberal cause....or further Canada's cause....and ensure we continue to prosper as a nation, not risk it all, so some liberals can stand up in the bar tomorrow and say we showed them US bastards.....and 3 days after that while eating there second plate of dirt, that morning and having second thoughts about was it worth it.......... Actually, we pay him for all kinds of things. Kowtowing to the US president (btw, what he said was so very mild in comparison to what Merkel and other have said...) is not always one of them. Canada's cause is not served by abandoning Canada's principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, Argus said: We pay him to look after our interests That's right, all of our interests. Economic concerns are only part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Smallc said: ...Canada's cause is not served by abandoning Canada's principles. But as always...Canada will cling to both...Canada's principles also include oil/bitumen pipelines and American strike fighter aircraft. This is the Canadian way..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: But as always...Canada will cling to both...Canada's principles also include oil/bitumen pipelines and American strike fighter aircraft. This is the Canadian way..... That's correct. Running a country is always a balancing act. There are many who feel that Trudeau should be far stronger and should come out and denounce what Trump has done. He hasn't done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Lordy, where have you guys been for the last year? When Trump says America First he means America first; He doesn't mean an arrangement where everyones happy. When he wanted to go to Mexico to negotiate how Mexico was going to pay for his stupid wall, do you think he had Mexico's interests in mind? Not at all, he was going to arrange some sort of tariff on Mexican goods that would pay for the wall. And he was stupid enough to think - just like folks here it seems - that Mexico would agree to some bullshit deal against Mexico's interests. The Mexican president told him that he's not interested so don't even bother. When Trump seeks to negotiate Nafta he ain't coming to negotiate but to dicate. To hell with that. Sure Canada will suffer economically but so to will the USofA. There will be pressure on the Americans to stop being such asses - from Americans to boot! Have some courage folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Peter F said: To hell with that. Sure Canada will suffer economically but so to will the USofA. There will be pressure on the Americans to stop being such asses - from Americans to boot! Have some courage folks. Canada has already thrown Mexico under the bus....courage indeed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, Argus said: Your job does not, I take it, depend on the 75% of our exports which go to the US. Beats me. I'm retired. 1200/month for as long as the pension provider feels like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Peter F said: Lordy, where have you guys been for the last year? When Trump says America First he means America first; He doesn't mean an arrangement where everyones happy. When he wanted to go to Mexico to negotiate how Mexico was going to pay for his stupid wall, do you think he had Mexico's interests in mind? Not at all, he was going to arrange some sort of tariff on Mexican goods that would pay for the wall. And he was stupid enough to think - just like folks here it seems - that Mexico would agree to some bullshit deal against Mexico's interests. The Mexican president told him that he's not interested so don't even bother. When Trump seeks to negotiate Nafta he ain't coming to negotiate but to dicate. To hell with that. Sure Canada will suffer economically but so to will the USofA. There will be pressure on the Americans to stop being such asses - from Americans to boot! Have some courage folks. You don't know that..... your guessing.....so until we know what trump wants or needs....we should remain neutral in any of our comments.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Which is exactly what the Government of Canada has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Ok and what was so insulting about Trudeau's tweet? That Canada welcomes refugee's when the US doesn't? Was that news to Trump? Did he feel insulted and belittled? Shall our politicians walk around on eggshell's for the sake of Trumps feelings? How PC do you want us to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Except for the fact he holds NAFTA in one hand, and our balls in the other , and him , and him alone can decide the fate of all that with one stroke of the pen.....but we as a nation have lined up along the border to poke the bear in the eye with a stick.... Appeasement much? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Per above post, then why did Trudeau tweet anything at all ? Because it needed to be said and he should have said a lot more IMO. And if he doesn't our opposition should soak up about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: Appeasement much? Yup....thank me later.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Ya unless you like eating dirt , lets remember what is at stake here, The US is Canada largest trading partner.....what a coup it would be if he took from Canada all those automotive jobs back, we need them more than they need us......So as the leader of the entire nation you do what has to be done....while we are eating dirt, what do you think the trudeaus will be eating....sun shine and rainbows baby.... What you are advocating does sound rather like appeasement, a prudent policy for a weak nation beside a belligerent one as long as we understand exactly what we are doing. Must say it doesn't sound like a very 'Army Guy' approach, really. Edited February 1, 2017 by SpankyMcFarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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