Russians accused of interfering in election to get Trump elected

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Smallc said:

Are you advocating surrender? 

 

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[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Smallc said:

You didn't feel that way in 2012 - what changed? 

 

How did I "feel" in 2012 ?   I am not a Republican.

[Smallc]

Right - you just support the guy or the moment.  Right now it's Putin. 

[DogOnPorch]

Well...their rocket is darn reliable. But it's still like riding in a 57 DeSoto...fins and all.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Smallc said:

Right - you just support the guy or the moment.  Right now it's Putin. 

 

U.S. foreign policy for Russia has failed....George W. Bush did a much better job than Barack Obama.

If Trump can do better, damn right I "support" him.

Let everybody get back to making more money.

 

Edited December 12, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[Smallc]

Especially Trump - he's all about the money.  

Putin isn't to be trusted.  Serious would leaders understand that. 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Smallc said:

Especially Trump - he's all about the money.  

Putin isn't to be trusted.  Serious would leaders understand that. 

 

Good, because that's what matters in the end.   Blind trust is for suckers.

Edited December 12, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[Wilber]

28 minutes ago, Smallc said:

He doesn't even take the National Security briefings. 

That's how he knows. Ignorance makes for infinite possibilities.

[cybercoma]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Great, then let's start another thread about that.  The Russian involvement in US election meme is a major topic of its own.

 

On topic, please.

Meme?

[Michael Hardner]

I don't know what to call it yet as it the substance is intractable from politics, spy-vs-spy... basically a spaghetti pile of who-knows-what-happened intrigue.

I guess I could call it an 'issue' but even that feels controversial.  

[Omni]

3 hours ago, ReeferMadness said:

Some EC members already have pause about Trump because of his transparent pandering to racism, sexism, Islamophobia and white supremacy.  Sadly, there are insufficient numbers at this time to make a difference.

What would it take for the EC to grow a pair and perform their duties seriously?  If it were shown that this interference tipped the election?  if it were shown that Trump was aware of it?  If it were shown that Trump was involved in it?  Would anything do it at this point?  I couldn't even guess.

There was endless appetite to delve into the Benghazi affair, Clinton's poor judgement in routing emails to her personal account and the dealings of the Clinton foundation.  But nobody seems to care about the gaping and obvious conflicts of interest that Trump has.

Here, we have linkages that suggest the president-elect's organization could have been involved in espionage or even treason.  Do enough of the establishment have the intestinal fortitude to take this on?  We'll see.

It is completely....eerie I guess is one word. As has been mentioned all over the media etc., that if Hillary had said even a snippet of the crazy crap Trump got away with in the debates or his campaign speeches, she would have been crucified. Trump gets to blabber on lying his head off, promoting his various social ineptitude's, and now this biz with the CIA. Where did he get this "guest pass" I wonder.  

[cybercoma]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't know what to call it yet as it the substance is intractable from politics, spy-vs-spy... basically a spaghetti pile of who-knows-what-happened intrigue.

I guess I could call it an 'issue' but even that feels controversial.  

Ridiculous pandering. You can call it what it is. It's a statement from the CIA that there was Russian interference in the election.

[Michael Hardner]

"a statement from the CIA that there was Russian interference in the election"

How about 'allegation' then ?

One word is better than thirteen.

[cybercoma]

It's not an allegation.

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, cybercoma said:

It's not an allegation.

So we are supposed to accept assertions from the CIA as fact ?

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So we are supposed to accept assertions from the CIA as fact ?

 

Depends on which side one is on.    It's a post-fact world now.

Edited December 12, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

[Smallc]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So we are supposed to accept assertions from the CIA as fact ?

It's not an assertion - it's a disclosure of evidence based analysis.

Edited December 12, 2016 by Smallc

[Smallc]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Depends on which side one is on.    It's a post-fact world now.

The facts don't know that. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Smallc said:

The facts don't know that. 

 

Facts can't vote.

[Smallc]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Facts can't vote.

Neither can Putin - yet he seemed to have a stake in this election. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Smallc said:

Neither can Putin - yet he seemed to have a stake in this election. 

 

That's OK...a Canadian illegal managed to vote in the election too.   U.S. elections seem to be very popular with other nationals !

[Smallc]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's OK...a Canadian illegal managed to vote in the election too.   U.S. elections seem to be very popular with other nationals !

Almost as popular as foreign leaders are to US publications.  But you don't see me complaining. 

[Michael Hardner]

Since there was an assertion that apparently included evidence that might be a good tack to follow rather than "things that are interesting to people that are related to this topic"

[Smallc]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Since there was an assertion that apparently included evidence that might be a good tack to follow rather than "things that are interesting to people that are related to this topic"

The 'assertion' was made by the CIA, and denied by Trump.  I know who I believe.  How about you? 

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Smallc said:

The 'assertion' was made by the CIA, and denied by Trump.  I know who I believe.  How about you? 

 

So now you believe there was WMD in Iraq, as reported by the CIA ?    Glad that is settled.