Images poll

[cybercoma]

The thumbnail idea should only be used to keep people from posting images that break the frames of the post. Tiny thumbnails are useless and a disservice to the presentation of ideas.

[BC_chick]

just post the picture as usual and it will automatically become a thumbnail.

I have never figured out how to do that.

[betsy]

just post the picture as usual and it will automatically become a thumbnail.

I don't think it's working.

I just posted a youtube on Hillary health thread (post #208) - posted them both ways......the image doesn't show.

It's just the link that shows.

Edited September 13, 2016 by betsy

[cybercoma]

I have never figured out how to do that.

Put the link to the picture between (img)link goes here(/img), except instead of round brackets use square ones like [this].

[BC_chick]

Put the link to the picture between (img)link goes here(/img), except instead of round brackets use square ones like [this].

Thanks but it's still not working. It's a blank square and when I try to post it get a "You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

Edited September 13, 2016 by BC_chick

[Bonam]

Thanks but it's still not working. It's a blank square and when I try to post it get a "You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

That error message comes up when trying to post images with the .svg extension (commonly found on wikipedia) and some other extensions. Other image formats (.jpg and .bmp and .png will work for example).

[BC_chick]

Thanks Bonam.

It's still not working though, same error message. I just picked a random image on Huffington Post, this is the URL, it's jpg:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4682588/original.jpg

Maybe it's Firefox.

[Bonam]

Thanks Bonam.

It's still not working though, same error message. I just picked a random image on Huffington Post, this is the URL, it's jpg:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4682588/original.jpg

Maybe it's Firefox.

[BC_chick]

Ha, now I'm on Chrome but not using the [brackets].

I did it, thanks!

Edited September 13, 2016 by BC_chick

[betsy]

How come the videos I posted on Arts and Entertainment are not showing, and yet another poster's are?

What am I doing wrong?

Edited September 17, 2016 by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

Which posters' videos are ?

Let me try:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGiKr90zu8

Under the 'old' way the forum worked - that would show an image from YouTube.

[betsy]

Which posters' videos are ?

Let me try:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGiKr90zu8

Under the 'old' way the forum worked - that would show an image from YouTube.

The Turkish Music thread. The video images are showing. I like her thread. We all know it's about Turkish music, and we know what we'll be watching when we go to her video.

Yours isn't showing either. It just gives the link. How do I make my link like hers?

What is the "old" way? I tried using the icon, and I also tried not using it....it's the same.

Edited September 18, 2016 by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

Yes I follow you.

Not sure why it works like that.

Charles?

I can force it to happen but let's wait to hear from Charles.

[Charles Anthony]

What am I doing wrong?

You are confusing rules with technical limitations. It is clear from your posts that you do not understand the rules.

The thumb-nails appear only to static images. They do not apply to video links.

......the image doesn't show.

It's just the link that shows.

There is nothing technically wrong. Your post only shows the link because you instructed the code to only show the link.

In fact, what you did was follow the forum rules. We do not want you to post the images of videos in the upper forums -- even though it is technically possible to do so. We do not want the image to show. We just want you to show the link.

You may display the video-images in the Off-Topic Discussion lower forums.

I am willing to show you what you are doing "wrong" but before doing so, you must understand what you should be doing right.

You must acknowledge that we want you to do exactly what you did in the upper forum -- i.e., display ONLY a link.

Do you understand that we do not want you to display the entire image of videos in the upper forum?

You may do so in the Off-Topic Discussion lower forums but not in the upper forums. Is that clear?

[betsy]

You are confusing rules with technical limitations. It is clear from your posts that you do not understand the rules.

The thumb-nails appear only to static images. They do not apply to video links.

There is nothing technically wrong. Your post only shows the link because you instructed the code to only show the link.

In fact, what you did was follow the forum rules. We do not want you to post the images of videos in the upper forums -- even though it is technically possible to do so. We do not want the image to show. We just want you to show the link.

You may display the video-images in the Off-Topic Discussion lower forums.

I am willing to show you what you are doing "wrong" but before doing so, you must understand what you should be doing right.

You must acknowledge that we want you to do exactly what you did in the upper forum -- i.e., display ONLY a link.

Do you understand that we do not want you to display the entire image of videos in the upper forum?

You may do so in the Off-Topic Discussion lower forums but not in the upper forums. Is that clear?

Check post #19:

You said you were giving this a test run.

4) multi-media permitted everywhere in the forum; forced thumb-nails; click to expand in new window;

I'm going by what you'd said, and I've asked about thumbnails, too. From what I understand, it comes automatic.

By that I understand that video posting is permitted everywhere. Based on your last post, that has changed, obviously.

Of course that wouldn't have been clear to me since I didn't see any other ammendment after post #19!

I'm at the Off-Topic section. Arts and Culture..

That's what I'm asking about.....how come one thread in that section can show video images, and mine can't?

Edited September 18, 2016 by betsy

[Charles Anthony]

If you want to display only the internet address/link of your image/photoplay file without displaying an image, then use this coding:

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGiKr90zu8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGiKr90zu8[/url] 

If you want to display both the image of your image/photoplay file and the internet address/link to your image/photoplay file, then you have 2 choices.

[img=https://metalandmettle.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/copy-of-dscf6736.jpg]

or

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiK38pOo5Tc[/media]

I'm at the Off-Topic section. Arts and Culture..

That's what I'm asking about.....how come one thread in that section can show video images, and mine can't?

--- because you are using the 1st coding when you should be posting either the 2nd or 3rd coding methods.

[cybercoma]

Everyone votes for multimedia everywhere in the forum, yet Michael Hardner gives me a warning point for so-called "image trolling" because I posted a short 2 minute video clip of Glenn Beck in the Donald vs Hillary thread. It was embedded and not a link though, so I guess that's trolling? Get your shit together guys. The rules are certainly unclear and not being able to embed videos on an internet forum is one of the stupidest rules I've ever seen anywhere. Calling it trolling is even more ridiculous. If that's the policy going forward, then I'm out because it's the most absurd policy I've ever seen anywhere.

And truly....look at this hot garbage. A giant page full of white space, all to delete an embedded video link, which the forum software automatically does when you post the URL.

[cybercoma]

Long story short, I'm leaving until this embedded image/video rule is changed. I took the time to make a suggestion about how videos/images should be handled at Charles Anthony's request and he completely ignored it, so clearly there's no interest in even having a discussion about how stupid this rule is. If you update your forum policies to bring it into the 21st century, I'll be back. If not, the last 11 years have been fun, but your new rules are too stupid for me to keep posting here.

[cybercoma]

I can't seem to add quoted text to the last post so I have to add a whole new reply to link to the conversation with Charles.
 

On 2016-08-24 at 3:38 PM, Charles Anthony said:

This is just a trial run. The intention being to simplify the policy on images to permit them everywhere in the forum.

Mod staff are not in agreement yet on whether any change is warranted.

The size of the thumbnail can be customized bigger or smaller. It has just now been increased.

What do you recommend?

 

On 2016-08-24 at 8:31 PM, cybercoma said:

Okay. I have some time now.

Images and videos both should be allowed embedded everywhere, so people don't have to surf away from the forum or open new tabs to view content.

However, there should be guidelines for their use.

1) Images and videos must be on topic and be used to elaborate on an argument or topic. Posts that are off topic, especially those with images should be removed.

2) Images and video thumbnails must not contain any NSFW/NSFL material. Anyone who posts completely off topic porn and gore on the forum should have their post removed and they should immediately receive a suspension without warning. The only exception is if the image/video host changes the file. It's up to the moderators to communicate with the person committing the infraction.

Any video or image that is on-topic but includes NSFW/NSFL content should not be embedded. Instead the member should post a link to the content with a clear warning about the NSFW/NSFL content though I would be fine with the moderators consider this completely off limits, even if it is on topic to a given discussion.

3) The moderators should implement a thumbnail system; however, the thumbnails should be roughly as large as the post window in width and about half the height. Tiny thumbnails are hard to see and it's no better than linking. You still have to open a new tab to view the content. The thumbnail mod is only necessary to stop people from posting images that break the templates.

4) If someone posts an embedded video for reference, they should provide a timestamp if the video is any longer than 5 minutes. Ain't nobody got time to watch your 2 hour documentary. If you're using a video to support a point, then cite what part of that video we're supposed to be watching. Any videos longer than 5 minutes that are not timestamped should be met with a message from the mods, asking the poster to provide a timestamp. If they don't have a timestamp and just want someone to watch a 2 hour documentary, the video should be removed and replaced with its title and a link instead. You wouldn't tell someone to read a 400 page report, then copy and paste all 400 pages to the forum. You shouldn't post a 2 hour video to the forum expecting people to watch it here either.

 

So I took the time to comment on a policy that didn't seem to be set in stone yet, we have a poll where the vast majority of people don't mind multimedia everywhere, and yet I'm given a warning point for "image trolling" and threatened with suspension because the forum software automatically embeds video URLs.

Someone shoot me a PM if the mod team here gets their shit together.

[The_Squid]

 

So the Mods relaxed the image posting rules without telling anyone...   but are enforcing video rules....  and calling it trolling...

Meanwhile......  actual trolling carries on.....  

Edited October 26, 2016 by The_Squid

[Smallc]

I think I'll start pointing out actual trolling again.  At this point, with many good posters gone, a suspension is neither here nor there.  

[Greg]

12 hours ago, The_Squid said:

So the Mods relaxed the image posting rules without telling anyone...   but are enforcing video rules....  and calling it trolling...

Let's all take a deep breath and relax a bit.

The forum upgrade, and the accompanying new features, are causing some confusion about the rules concerning images, videos, signatures, etc.

I just ask to you be patient with myself and the mod team as we adjust our approach and work through some of these issues.

I'm open to making adjustments to the functions, features and even the rules of these forums.  BUT these changes, if they do happen, will take time to implement.

So please don't get too upset (moderators take note too) if we all tread on some grey areas over the next few weeks/months.

[bush_cheney2004]

No problem...we are all guests here and I appreciate admin efforts and patience.    As for defaulted embedded images/video, it was easy to see what was happening after the upgrade and easy to change them to links instead, per previous moderator direction. 

 

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

Thanks Greg and BC.