Israeli War Crimes - Part 2

Rue · August 17, 2016

Your replies seem to match your notion of OCD in terms of repeating the same thing over and over again. By that, every member on this board has OCD.

You think?

Shame on Israel!

Rue · August 17, 2016

Teachers in elementary schools do a lot of repeating of words and phrases. It is considered a teaching technique.

But I congratulate our resident Zionist zealot. Now he claims that those who do not think like him are nuts.

Big Guy was just getting comfortable with being labelled anti-Semite, Jew hater, pervert and all those other wonderful attributes - now Big Guy is just NUTS!

Most people who are nuts are not responsible for their statements so I guess Big Guy has now been absolved of all those nefarious traits because he is nuts!

Not sure what that has to do with the factual and verifiable events that Big Guy is posting here and are taking place where the Israeli cancer continues to spread over Palestinian land.

Shame, shame, shame!!

Nuts you say. That's an interesting diagnosis but I am only offering possible explanations as to why you and others for that matter repeat the same anti semitic comments over and over on this forum and what may be behind them. I offer no diagnosis of you. Don't care.

Now its a bit more complex than nuts. Anti-semitism doesn't make someone "nuts". Nuts is a term people who have a limited vocabulary or understanding of psychology or psychiatry use. Nuts is used by laymen to represent testacles and I can't comment therefore on your nuts if that is what you mean.

Perhaps this will help illustrate my point:

"Neuroscientist Mortimer Ostow has done great work in this field. Ostow conducted a major study and concluded plainly that “to the question of whether there is a mental health component to antisemitism, the answer at least statistically, is yes.” Through his interviews with patients, Ostow found that the more one held antisemitic beliefs, the more likely they were to harbor psychotic thinking.

Psychologists Carl C. Bell and Edward Dunbar used a prejudice rating scale to assess and describe levels of prejudice. They too found clear associations between highly prejudiced people and other indicators of psychopathology".

source:http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/30/could-strengthening-the-association-between-antisemitism-and-mental-illness-help-to-curb-it/#

You constantly yell out at the end of your posts to all Canadians, and me, "shame!", Shame!", "shame!".

When I see that repeated continuously as a reference to telling people to be ashamed if they don't share your views that Jews who believe they have a right to a state are cancer, I try offer explanations because for me your literal words make no logical sense.

You might want to consider reading this article:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/test-case/201106/shame-you-do-you-use-shame-control-others

Shame on You! Do You Use Shame to Control Others?

Using shame to get others to what you want is easy but damaging.

by Melissa Kirk

The article provides an explanation of what shaming others is, ie the intent to cause the following in others:

"the intense painful feeling or experience of believing we are flawed and therefore unworthy of acceptance and belonging."We are probably wired to feel shame because it keeps us in line with the rules of our society. When we break or flaunt the rules, we may be ostracized, which could mean death or at the very least, disconnection, which can feel worse than death."

Now clearly you continuously come on this board and cry out shame!, shame!, shame! whenever you reach out to your audience about Jewish Israelis. You do so because you don't feel they are doing enough to stop Jews from being Israeli. Yoy say so over nd over.

There's a problem though.

As the article says:

"Unless the person we're trying to shame really could care less what we think of her(him), almost everyone will respond to shaming in some way, although it will almost never be in way that nourishes the relationship between the shamer and the shamee. Shame makes us feel terrible, like we're horrible people, broken, worthless, and disgusting. And when someone shames us, we lose respect for that person. Shaming, like sarcasm, is easy but damaging."

So hey now, you really want to damage forum members? Do you really want to make people feel horrible, broken worthless, disgusting, because they don't come on the forum and demand Jews stop being Israeli or for not calling them cancers?

Really?

That's not nice.

Now mind you the article says sarcasm like shaming is easy but damaging. I hope you don't think I am damaging you by being sarcastic.

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Rue · August 17, 2016

Time for Canada to send Israel a message and wash our hands of them!

Yes no doubnt, from the constant references its evident you feel compelled to wash your hands all the time.

Blaming that hand washing compulsion on Jews being Israeli is I suppose one way to try rationalize it.

Hudson Jones · August 18, 2016

This position ignores past and present domestic and foreign policies for both Canada and the United States. Not only was it OK, it was OK even without an existential threat for subjugation, occupation, natural resources, and "genocide". Israel has done nothing that even comes close the historical policies of Canada and the United States.

Many things were okay in the past. It doesn't mean that since it was done before, it's okay to do it now.

The point is that neither Canada or U.S. would be able to get away with what Israel is doing to another group of people, now.

bush_cheney2004 · August 18, 2016

Many things were okay in the past. It doesn't mean that since it was done before, it's okay to do it now.

The point is that neither Canada or U.S. would be able to get away with what Israel is doing to another group of people, now.

Actually, both Canada and the United States continue to "get away with" what was done and is done even today...now.

Big Guy · August 18, 2016

Yes no doubnt, from the constant references its evident you feel compelled to wash your hands all the time.

Blaming that hand washing compulsion on Jews being Israeli is I suppose one way to try rationalize it.

What has that got to do with the Israeli cancer spreading across Palestine and absorbing more land every day?

jbg · August 18, 2016

What has that got to do with the Israeli cancer spreading across Palestine and absorbing more land every day?

Maybe the Arabs should think about making peace?

Rue · August 18, 2016

What has that got to do with the Israeli cancer spreading across Palestine and absorbing more land every day?

It speaks to the double standard used on this forum when it comes to the right of Muslims to have a state but Jews not to be allowed to have one.

As for your continued slur of Jews as being cancer on this forum and on these threads, that speaks to your political agenda and the political script you have been sent to pollute this forum with.

It speaks directly as to where you got the phraseology from and why you use it again and again

to dehumanize Jews because they choose to be Israeli as not worthy of living.

It speaks directly to the agenda you have been sent to parrot:

Source: Falestinona, website of Fatah's Information and Culture Commission in Lebanon, Jan. 16, 2016

Excerpt from Al-Quds (Palestinian Fatah newspaper in Lebanon -Ed.) interview with [Advisor to PA Chairman Abbas on NGOs and] Fatah Central Committee member Sultan Abu Al-Einein

" Q: "Do you have any final words for our people carrying out intifada in Palestine?"

A: "Blessings to all of our Martyrs, to the residents of Jerusalem who had the honor of igniting the first spark of this activity, to all those who followed in their footsteps in the rest of the homeland, and to the residents of the Hebron district, who have sown fear in all of this cancerous Israeli body."

Take ownership of your political agenda. Take ownership of the script you use and where it comes from Big Guy. You want to repeat it over and over again, I will expose your origins of your hateful words. Don't care what names you use on this board."

Source: Facebook page of Jibril Rajoub, Deputy Secretary of the Fatah Central Committee, May 28, 2014

Deputy Secretary of the Fatah Central Committee Jibril Rajoub’s speech on the occasion of Nakba Day (i.e., ‘the catastrophe,’ Palestinian term for the establishment of the State of Israel) in Qatar.

“Believe me that this [the reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas] is one of the most important and strongest reasons for strengthening our continuing presence on our land, and this is the most important weapon in the confrontation with the settlement, this cancer which paved its way 66 years ago in an attempt to erase Palestine – as a land, history and people – from the political map."

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, Mar. 30, 2014

Official PA TV broadcast from the studio in Jordan on the occasion of Land Day.

Guest: Chairman of the Political Committee of the Palestinian National Council Khaled Mismar

“[Yisrael] Koenig, who wanted to Judaize the Galilee, said Palestine was a cancer inside Israel. We know, the world knows and the Arabs know that the cancer in our body is Israel – a cancer in Palestine. In other words, if this cancer grows and spreads [beyond] Palestine, it will affect the entire Arab and Islamic world. For this reason, we hope that the Arabs and Muslims will be fully aware of the [dangers] that surround us [the Palestinians], because they will surround them [as well].”

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, June 19, 2012

PA TV program Personal Encounter interviews writer and philosopher Maen Bashour. Program filmed in Beirut.

"Lebanon will not have rest so long as the Zionist cancerous growth exists in the body of the nation… "

Source: Official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, June 3, 2011

Sheikh Ishaq Feleifel stated:

"The old-new despicable plot: The struggle between truth and falsehood is as ancient as life upon this earth... yet the mighty Islam, from the breaking of its dawn and the spreading of its light up until our time, has been targeted by its enemies, who do not agree on anything as they agree on cultivating evil against Islam and uprooting Muslims. The challenge still exists; moreover, the enemies have announced in a clear and provocative manner their despicable and terrible plot. Sixty-three years ago, the Israeli Prime Minister, Ben Gurion, stood at the UN after the entire world granted recognition to the malignant cancerous growth known as the State of Israel... The Prime Minister of this destructive cancerous growth stood up to declare the religion of the Jews in Palestine to the entire world. I hope that the [islamic] nation will study this faith in order to know with certainty that the Jews talk, in conferences and in negotiations, only through their distorted, corrupted, falsified religion which they have adopted, which they glorify and honor, and they are lying when they deny the owner of the right the right... And the conflict between us and the Jews is not a conflict about land and borders, but rather a conflict about faith and existence."

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, Apr. 18, 2010, repeated from earlier broadcasts on April 12 and 14

“The struggle between Palestinians and Israelis has taken on a new dimension. After the spread of the Israeli cancer in the body of the city (i.e. Jews living in Jerusalem) the [Arab] inhabitants of Jerusalem see their enemy in front of their eyes.”

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, June 5, 2008

History professor, Adnan Ayash:

“There are diseases like smallpox, that can be eradicated, but the disease that was inflicted on the Palestinian people and the Arab nation in general, that’s the Jewish disease, the Zionist disease, a cancerous disease, that started with occupying and taking over lands in 1904… Those (Jews) from 1904 to 1947 reached 605.000. That’s the cancer that spreads over the lands.”

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, Apr. 20, 2007

Ahmad Bahar, Acting Chairman of Parliament (Hamas):

“This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners, but our people was afflicted by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation."

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, May 13, 2005

Ibrahim Mudayris, Official, PA Ministry of Religious Trusts and Religious Affairs:

"With the establishment of the State of Israel, the entire Islamic nation was lost because Israel is a cancer spreading in the body of the Islamic nation."

Source: Official Palestinian Authority TV, Jan. 7, 2005

Ibrahim Mudayris, Official, PA Ministry of Religious Trusts and Religious Affairs at Friday sermon:

"The Muslim remembers, how the Jews corrupted the land... Oh Muslims! The Jews are Jews. Their character and custom are the corruption and destruction of this land. We keep warning you: the Jews are a cancer that spreads inside the body of the Islamic and Arab nation.... They invest in the East Asian countries, which were destroyed [by the Tsunami] because of the Jewish and American corruption and destruction."

Lest anyone think you are not a parrot they need only trace back the slur. Its far from original and its script writers are not exactly a secret.

Shame!

Regards

Rue the Bacteria, Virus, whatever

Right.

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Big Guy · August 18, 2016

It speaks to the double standard used on this forum and not to your repetitive slur of Jews.

Just once try conceive of the possibility that this thread might deal with a concept other than your own

words expressing Jews of Israel as cancer.

Your need in each and every response to dehumanize Jews because they choose to be Israeli

speaks to you and your hatred of these Jews, nothing else.

So what has this got to do with Israel taking more and more Palestinian lands?

Please stay on topic.

Some of my friends and colleagues are of the Jewish faith - and they are also rational. All abhor the way that this Zionist government is treating the Palestinians. I agree with them.

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herples · August 18, 2016

Maybe the Arabs should think about making peace?

Israel has peace with Egypt and Jordan. Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq are unstable and present no threat to Israel. Israel also occupies all of Palestine, there is no war that Arabs need to make peace with Israel over.

jbg · August 18, 2016

Israel has peace with Egypt and Jordan. Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq are unstable and present no threat to Israel. Israel also occupies all of Palestine, there is no war that Arabs need to make peace with Israel over.

The knfings, car rammings, terror tunnels, missile attacks? The kidnappings maybe?

herples · August 19, 2016

The knfings, car rammings, terror tunnels, missile attacks? The kidnappings maybe?

All occur inside Israel by people that live there.

Rue · August 19, 2016

Israel has peace with Egypt and Jordan. Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq are unstable and present no threat to Israel. Israel also occupies all of Palestine, there is no war that Arabs need to make peace with Israel over.

1. At the present time Israel has an agreement with the current government of Egypt of non belligerence. The state of Egypt

does not recognize Israel as a Jewish state or its borders, just that at this time it will not challenge its 1967 borders. There is no

exchange of ambassadors. Egypt can not fully recognize Israel because the majority of its people do not want that,

2. The exact same comment above as to Jordan.

In regards to 1 and 2, a radical form of government could overthrow either regime at a moment's notice. Neither country is stable.

In Jordan the Muslim Brotherhood, a plethora of Iranian and radical Sunni terrorist cells all agitate and would like to kill King Abdullah.

The instability and threats on Abdullah's life and there have been many are a direct threat to Israel.

3. Lebanon is a direct threat to Israeli, specifically Hezbollah which operates as an autonomous self ruled terrorist organization

the Lebanese government does not control. Hezbollah is in a declared state of war to destroy Israel. Not that you noticed but

Lebanon never removed its declaration of war against Israel. It continues since 1949. From a practical perspective the Lebanese

army is no threat nor is the average Lebanese but of course Hezbollah is not to mention approximately 50 or more Palestinian terror

cells operating out of Lebanon.

4. Iraq's current government is not a threat to Israel but Al Quaeda, ISIL operate out of Iraq and are a direct threat to Israel and Jordan

as are numerous Shiite terror cells financed by Iran. Iraq therefore is a threat not just to Israel but also Jordan.

5. Israel does not occupy al of Palestine but I would expect you to say that. It comes directly from the scripts of Arab extremist terrorists who want Israel removed. The comment is nonsense. almost 90% of Palestine was illegally turned into the state of Jordan which to this day does not allow

Jewish citizens including those who were born in Palestine before Jordan was illegally created by Britain as a Jew free Palestinian state.

The remainder of Palestine is Israel and then the West Bank. Israel does not occupy all of the West Bank. You are another arm chair expert who

has never been to the West Bank and understand where the IDF actually is on the West Bank and you again show what an expert you are by pretending Jordan was not carved out of Palestine and in fact Israel is only a tiny portion of the remainder.

Rue · August 19, 2016

All occur inside Israel by people that live there.

Nonsense. Muslim Terrorist attacks against Jews occur not just in pre 1967 Israel but the West Bank, Gaza and world wide.

More to the point their site of execution is not relevant on the other hand he fact they happen and are condoned by Hamas the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah, the mainstream Muslim media is.

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These attacks are designed to entrench siege mentality. . The random civilian attacks by Muslims posed as civilians

makes it real to fear virtually anyone walking on the street whether you are Jewish or Muslim-that is the point-to cause all people Jewish or Muslim, Palestinian or Israeli to fear and hate one another.

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Big Guy · August 20, 2016

Fortunately, there are people around the world who are outraged at the way the Israeli government is treating the Palestinians;

Protest At Soccer Game

As more and more people get disgusted with the suppression and war crimes applied against the Palestinians, the closer Canada is to washing its hands if the Israeli state and stopping the Israeli cancer from absorbing the last remaining remnants of Palestinian soil.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2016

Israel should continue with more "war crimes", as this only strengthens Canadian-Israeli trade deals. Here is a recent one (2016) crowed by Ontario/Wynne Liberals:

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne kicked off her week-long trade mission to Israel by signing18 agreements and partnerships valued at $87 million. Wynne’s delegation includes government officials as well as approximately 130 business, academic and research representatives.

...Two-way trade between Ontario and Israel last year was valued at more than $900 million, according to the CBC.

http://www.israel21c.org/canada-israel-sign-business-deals-worth-87-million/

marcus · August 20, 2016

Israel should continue with more "war crimes", as this only strengthens Canadian-Israeli trade deals.

Canada does seem to have questionable business agreements with some of the worst human rights violators. Canada's trade deals with Saudi surpass Israel's.

taxme · August 21, 2016

Israel should continue with more "war crimes", as this only strengthens Canadian-Israeli trade deals. Here is a recent one (2016) crowed by Ontario/Wynne Liberals:

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne kicked off her week-long trade mission to Israel by signing18 agreements and partnerships valued at $87 million. Wynne’s delegation includes government officials as well as approximately 130 business, academic and research representatives.

...Two-way trade between Ontario and Israel last year was valued at more than $900 million, according to the CBC.

http://www.israel21c.org/canada-israel-sign-business-deals-worth-87-million/

I wonder as to what was in those agreements anyway? What partnerships are you talking about? I think that Wynne went to Israel to bow down before her gods. But hey.

So why do government officials have to go and make business deals when that should be left up to the person in business themselves who would like to sell too or buy from another country? These trips by our politicians are just another free ride and paid holiday at taxpayer's expense. It must be nice to be a politician and get to see most of the world for free.

So what the hell is wrong with me. Maybe I should become a politician and take the sucker Canadian taxpayer's for a ride. Canadians don't seem to mind at all as to what their politicians do with their tax dollars anyway.

taxme · August 21, 2016

Canada does seem to have questionable business agreements with some of the worst human rights violators. Canada's trade deals with Saudi surpass Israel's.

Dealing with just about every country in the Middle East is dealing with human rights violators. Why bother with any of them at all anyway. Let them go pound their rocks and sand until they one day become a value commodity. Then we can talk about it.

Big Guy · August 21, 2016

Perhaps, it is a good ideas that the posters here are anonymous:

Targeting Human Rights Groups

"Israel is behind it," Jabarin alleged. "Criminals, all the time, they are afraid. When you start searching and looking to identify them, they will become afraid. For them, it's easy to defeat politicians, but it's not easy for them to defeat the human rights defenders."

Looks like Big Guy is saving himself from a few letters, calls and other threats.

Rue · August 21, 2016

Perhaps, it is a good ideas that the posters here are anonymous:

Targeting Human Rights Groups

"Israel is behind it," Jabarin alleged. "Criminals, all the time, they are afraid. When you start searching and looking to identify them, they will become afraid. For them, it's easy to defeat politicians, but it's not easy for them to defeat the human rights defenders."

Looks like Big Guy is saving himself from a few letters, calls and other threats.

Your need to draw attention to yourself in each and every thread and try make it about you speaks for itself.

You come on this forum to hate monger about, dehumanize and insult Jews who are Israeli.

Your personal references which attempt to bring attention and sympathy to yourself as some kind of targeted martyr is simpering and snively at best.

Since you initiated it I respond to it and state your words in my opinion manifest a persecutory delusion a condition described in the DSV Psychiatric Manual as one in which the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they believe that harm is occurring, or is going to occur and that a perceived persecutor has the intention to cause them harm.

That is what I would describe your words as showing.

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Rue · August 21, 2016

So what the hell is wrong with me.

Oh where should I start. Get real. Like Big Guy your constant attempts to make the thread about yourself

is pathetic . This thread is supposed to be about Israeli crimes not you, hard as that is for you to accept.

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Rue · August 21, 2016

As usual the thread had strayed to the point it simply deals with naarcissists trying to bring attention to themselves. There hasn't been an Israeli war crime presented on this thread since it started. What a friggin joke.

Rue · August 21, 2016

Look's like the Zionist cancer has spread to Canada's prostate:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/20000-walk-through-toronto-in-support-of-israel/

http://theindependent.ca/2016/03/18/under-trudeau-canadas-support-for-israel-still-unwavering/

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/israel/bilateral_relations_bilaterales/index.aspx?lang=eng

http://www.ciirdf.ca/home/index.php

http://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/trudeau-government-opposes-annual-un-onslaught-against-israel

Shame! Shame! Shame!

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jbg · August 21, 2016

Fortunately, there are people around the world who are outraged at the way the Israeli government is treating the Palestinians;

Protest At Soccer Game

As more and more people get disgusted with the suppression and war crimes applied against the Palestinians, the closer Canada is to washing its hands if the Israeli state and stopping the Israeli cancer from absorbing the last remaining remnants of Palestinian soil.

Are these people disgusted at the way Turkey treats Cyprus/ Or the way the Ottoman Empire treated Armenians? Or the way Tibetians are treated by China? I am suspicious when the moral high horse is reserved for Jews.