jacee Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) "Needs help" ? Edit to add link ... http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/sophie-gregoire-trudeau-overwhelmed-1.3580164 Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau needs to learn how to say "No". She's not being paid to work. She's not 'needed'. She's just an easy and popular go-to for organizations looking for a free speaker. If she can't say no, it will only get worse. She's a 'nice-to-have', but not a 'necessary'. She should make the right choice and put her family first. She doesn't have to put bread on the table like other working Moms. She isn't required to do anything. She is required to say no, not be a doormat for every group that wants her to help them raise money. IMO . Edited May 13, 2016 by jacee Quote
Smallc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Why should she have to say no if she doesn't want to? The similar role in the US (though not directly equivalent)is a function that is recognized and well funded. Quote
PIK Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Sorry she has 10 people already on her team. If she needs more ,then she or the party will pay for it. These 2 are so out of touch with reality and the maturity level is very low. But small, you just keep on supporting these 2, they need the help Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
scribblet Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 This isn't the U.S., we do not have an official role for the PM's wife. Besides, she's allready farmed out the kids so I guess it's all that cleaning, laundry and yard work that's getting in the way of expanding her 'celebrity status'. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
?Impact Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 The "First Lady" of Canada is Sharon Johnston. Quote
BubberMiley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Besides, she's allready farmed out the kids so I guess it's all that cleaning, laundry and yard work that's getting in the way of expanding her 'celebrity status'. She should make the right choice and put her family first.Amazing in 2016 we still have people attacking women for wanting to do things other than just cooking, laundry and raising children. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
-1=e^ipi Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) How dare you question our princess! She is super oppressed with her giant palace, 2 state funded nannies to look after her kids, and her own personal assistant. That clearly isn't enough! How else is she to reach maximum personal fulfillment? She clearly needs an entire team to cater to her every whim. All the men and women out there who worked fulltime while raising multiple kids without state funded nannies and personal assistants simply cannot comprehend the hardship that Sophie Trudeau faces. This is also the reason why Sophie Trudeau insists that her giant palace is lit with incandescent light bulbs while us mere peons must use compact flourescents or LEDs in order to save the planet and keep our electricity bills affordable. The spectrum of incandescent light bulbs is simply more natural and we can't afford to harm Sophie's delicate eyes with such unnatural non-incandescent light bulb light. Edited May 13, 2016 by -1=e^ipi Quote
Smoke Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) "Amazing in 2016 we still have people attacking women for wanting to do things other than just cooking, laundry and raising children." Nobody's attacking her for wanting to do those things. That's just your left-wing viewing lens skewing what was really said. Maybe if she wants to do those things she should do it on her own dime/time rather than the taxpayer's. Edited May 13, 2016 by Smoke Quote
Big Guy Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) The argument against increased funding for the role of the wife of the PM is that it is really publicizing the Party rather than the country. It also appears that she is more popular than others in that position in the past so that is her problem. Her reps respond that any appearance by her at an event increases the attendance at the event and the financial support for the organization. That is a fact as any charity asking for her presence will tell you. One resolution would be that she request to be payed for attendance at an event and use those monies to pay for assistants. That would be red meat for the carnivorous opposition critics. Another solution is that she cut back her appearances to coincide with her current abilities to attend. That may or may not negatively impact Canada's reputation. Since the critics feel that her appearances are based on Liberal Party promotion then the Liberal Party should fund the additional staff that she requires. That is the solution that I would suggest. The Liberals could fund raise on that issue. I believe that she has a good argument and would be prepared to contribute even though I am not a fan of Liberal policy. I also feel that critics and supporters unfortunately follow party lines. These are those folks whose opinions based on individual issues are based on which political party suggests an issue rather than the issue itself. I also believe that what the spouse of any PM does to assist Canadian organizations is good for Canada and should be financed by the country. Edited May 13, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
BubberMiley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Nobody's attacking her for wanting to do those things. That's just your left-wing viewing lens skewing what was really said. Maybe if she wants to do those things she should do it on her own dime/time rather than the taxpayer's.I guess you didn't read the quotations I provided. I can't imagine anyone criticizing her husband for not "putting his family first" or for "farming out the kids" or for wanting to do things other than "cleaning, laundry and yard work." In 2016, women can do work for real money and they can still take an active role in their children's lives. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
PIK Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 It is 2016 and the liberals still think women cant function without government help. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) If Harpers wife acted like this the whole media would be all over her. Harper was only 2 yrs older then trudeau and the maturity level is so low when it comes to the trudeau's. I guess that is why they took Justin's mother and the in-laws top Washington for a state dinner. Edited May 13, 2016 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
BubberMiley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 It is 2016 and the liberals still think women cant function without government help.Well, most of us would have a hard time without roads and infrastructure. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 If Harpers wife acted like this the whole media would be all over her. Harper wads only 2 yrs older then trudeaua dn the maturity level is so low when it comes to the trudeau's. I guess that is why they took Justin's mother and the in-laws top Washington for a state dinner.Try to be comprehensible when you write. I think what you're saying is "Waaa...but Harper!" If that's the case, provide an example where the whole media was all over Harper's wife for something she did. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Sorry she has 10 people already on her team. If she needs more ,then she or the party will pay for it. These 2 are so out of touch with reality and the maturity level is very low. But small, you just keep on supporting these 2, they need the help She does not have 10 staff, she has 1 staff member. Quote
Smallc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) The "First Lady" of Canada is Sharon Johnston.Actually is Prince Phillip.Actually not though - the President of the United States is the head of state and government. Edited May 13, 2016 by Smallc Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 I also believe that what the spouse of any PM does to assist Canadian organizations is good for Canada and should be financed by the country. I disagree. The only thing that being a spouse should let you do is live with your spouse. She wasn't elected, no one voted for Sophie Trudeau. Maybe she should get a job, a real one. It is 2016 and the liberals still think women cant function without government help. It's 2016! Women are clearly incapable beings that need a chivalrous knight in shiny social justice armor like Trudeau to come save them from things such as working for a living. Quote
PIK Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 2 nannies, 2 house keepers 2 house managers, gardeners, cook and a driver. Sorry 9. So she does not look after the kids or cook the meals or the laundry or the house work or the yard work and does not have to drive anywhere. She can have as many as she wants but the taxpayer is not going to pay for it. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
betsy Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Amazing in 2016 we still have people attacking women for wanting to do things other than just cooking, laundry and raising children. Well....actually, it's more to help her. She needs time to herself, otherwise....all that singing would be wasted. It wouldn't launch a singing career. I'm thinking she should hook up with Michael Buble. Maybe they can get a Christmas album out by 2017. She should avoid any performances with Justin. He tends to steal the show. Edited May 13, 2016 by betsy Quote
Smallc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 2 nannies, 2 house keepers 2 house managers, gardeners, cook and a driver. Sorry 9. So she does not look after the kids or cook the meals or the laundry or the house work or the yard work and does not have to drive anywhere. She can have as many as she wants but the taxpayer is not going to pay for it. Those aren't her staff. Those are the staff of the PMs household. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 So would the critics here be OK with the Liberal Party paying for extra assistants? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
-1=e^ipi Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 She can have as many as she wants but the taxpayer is not going to pay for it. Sure taxpapers will. It's the royal family of Canada! It is a far better use a taxpayer money than helping the people that lost their homes in Fort McMurray. It's not like Sophie isn't married to a millionaire who was born into wealth and has a massive income that can hire a bunch of assistance using his own money. Besides, Sophie is probably just super stressed from going on 3 vacations so far this year (Nevis, Whistler and fogo island). I mean can you imagine going on so many vacations to so many exotic places so frequently while creating a giant CO2 footprint due to flying? I certainly can't. Quote
betsy Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) So would the critics here be OK with the Liberal Party paying for extra assistants? Ask the Liberal members. I'm curious where they stand on that. Edited May 13, 2016 by betsy Quote
BubberMiley Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Well....actually, it's more to help her. She needs time to herself, otherwise....all that singing would be wasted. It wouldn't launch a singing career. I'm thinking she should hook up with Michael Buble. Maybe they can get a Christmas album out by 2017. She should avoid any performances with Justin. He tends to steal the show. What the hell are you talking about? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Smallc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Posted May 13, 2016 Ask the Liberal members. I'm curious where they stand on that. I would be fine with that if she were doing public partisan events Quote
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