America under President Trump

Omni · January 11, 2017

1 minute ago, blueblood said:

Trump is worth 4.5 billion dollars, people that rich only listen to themselves.

nobody is denying hacking took place, but to suggest that the hacking is the only reason trump won is peddling for excuses. I mean crap that podesta said in an email isn't going to be the straw that broke the camels back

Again, nobody knows how much he is worth, even Forbes in what they say is only an estimate, but you seem to think those estimates are something more, figure he has lost near a billion lately, but you are right in one sense, who in their right mind would listen to someone who continually proves he is a liar?

Omni · January 11, 2017

5 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Her email scheme which was originally found out during the Benghazi hearings and director comey was investigating

Let me sort you out here, the email scheme was that of the Russian hackers. Going back to Benghazi is a bit of stretch don't you think?

blueblood · January 11, 2017

14 minutes ago, Omni said:

Let me sort you out here, the email scheme was that of the Russian hackers. Going back to Benghazi is a bit of stretch don't you think?

Benghazi is where it started. The hackers were dealing with podesta.

Omni · January 11, 2017

4 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Benghazi is where it started. The hackers were dealing with podesta.

I'd like to see how you connect Benghazi and Russian hacking.

blueblood · January 11, 2017

1 hour ago, Omni said:

I'd like to see how you connect Benghazi and Russian hacking.

Benghazi is the starting point of where hillarys emails were discovered, the multiple devices, and server in her basement. Then the comey investigation,

all countries hack all the time, that's no surprise to anyone. Podestas emails hacked by an unknown entity and released to wiki leaks were small potatoes.

a concern to American voters was if podestas emails which were small potatoes could be hacked, what about hillarys private server? That coupled with trumps vision, hillary's entitled attitude, and millions of people tired of being talked down to by coastal elites is why the dems lost.

Omni · January 11, 2017

9 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Benghazi is the starting point of where hillarys emails were discovered, the multiple devices, and server in her basement. Then the comey investigation,

all countries hack all the time, that's no surprise to anyone. Podestas emails hacked by an unknown entity and released to wiki leaks were small potatoes.

a concern to American voters was if podestas emails which were small potatoes could be hacked, what about hillarys private server? That coupled with trumps vision, hillary's entitled attitude, and millions of people tired of being talked down to by coastal elites is why the dems lost.

The current event is that the Russians hacked not Hillary's account, but the DNC's, and then exposed private emails dealing with election strategy, that political party's of every stripe generate. But hey wait for it, apparently they also hacked the GOP and Trump might be dancing the funky chicken in the near future.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

"These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. "

Edited January 11, 2017 by Omni

DogOnPorch · January 11, 2017

3 hours ago, Argus said:

No one has produced any evidence of any substantial number of illegal voters. Trump just pulled that out of his ass. Do you believe everything the man says?

Do you believe everything the MSM tells you?

We can both play...

blueblood · January 11, 2017

19 minutes ago, Omni said:

The current event is that the Russians hacked not Hillary's account, but the DNC's, and then exposed private emails dealing with election strategy, that political party's of every stripe generate. But hey wait for it, apparently they also hacked the GOP and Trump might be dancing the funky chicken in the near future.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

"These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. "

And assange is on the record saying the Russians weren't his source. Like I said the Russians hacked yesterday, hacked today and will hack tomorrow. And like I said the Dnc emails were small potatoes.

As for trump doing the funky chicken, trump has already won the presidency and survived things that would destroy other candidates yet still keeps going. Trump has already won the game and at 4.5 billion dollars is pretty hard to influence.

Omni · January 11, 2017

2 minutes ago, blueblood said:

And assange is on the record saying the Russians weren't his source. Like I said the Russians hacked yesterday, hacked today and will hack tomorrow. And like I said the Dnc emails were small potatoes.

As for trump doing the funky chicken, trump has already won the presidency and survived things that would destroy other candidates yet still keeps going. Trump has already won the game and at 4.5 billion dollars is pretty hard to influence.

So you believe Assange, and you think you know how much Trump is actually worth. And the DNC emails were not small potatoes, but wait to see if Putin releases those of the RNC. Popcorn?

blueblood · January 11, 2017

19 minutes ago, Omni said:

So you believe Assange, and you think you know how much Trump is actually worth. And the DNC emails were not small potatoes, but wait to see if Putin releases those of the RNC. Popcorn?

Wikipedia gave an estimate of trumps worth and Wikipedia is edited frequently. Assange is a wannabe white knight and knows who his source is, who he says isn't Russian. From his previous leaks, they tend to come from disgruntled insiders.

putin can release any rnc email he claims to have. Trump got elected president after the hot mic incident that was supposed to sink him, his various tweets, speeches, interviews where he is unfiltered. Trump was supposed to lose bad in the primaries, the election; however he manages to survive. The Russians can release whatever they want, does trump care?

Omni · January 11, 2017

2 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Wikipedia gave an estimate of trumps worth and Wikipedia is edited frequently. Assange is a wannabe white knight and knows who his source is, who he says isn't Russian. From his previous leaks, they tend to come from disgruntled insiders.

putin can release any rnc email he claims to have. Trump got elected president after the hot mic incident that was supposed to sink him, his various tweets, speeches, interviews where he is unfiltered. Trump was supposed to lose bad in the primaries, the election; however he manages to survive. The Russians can release whatever they want, does trump care?

You bet he cares. What got him in, may get him right back out.

Argus · January 11, 2017

14 hours ago, blueblood said:

Her email scheme which was originally found out during the Benghazi hearings and director comey was investigating

You didn't answer the question. Reverse a thousand votes in a few states and the election goes the other way.

Argus · January 11, 2017

12 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

Do you believe everything the MSM tells you?

We can both play...

When they have some evidence to support them. Or at least when it's plausible. You and Trump don't have a shred of evidence and it's not plausible that many people could vote illegally without it being seen.

BubberMiley · January 11, 2017

12 hours ago, blueblood said:

Trump has already won the game and at 4.5 billion dollars is pretty hard to influence.

Nobody knows exactly what he's worth, but his tax returns would give a good indication of that as well as whether his empire has been kept afloat by dark money from Russia, which seems likely to be the case.

kimmy · January 11, 2017

16 hours ago, kimmy said:

-a Secretary of State who is an oilman with vested interest in Russian and Middle East oil

It sounds like Tillerson's confirmation hearing is not going well. Rubio lit him up, and with fellow Republicans Rand Paul, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham being openly skeptical about Tillerson, this one might not be a shoe-in.

-k

bush_cheney2004 · January 11, 2017

3 minutes ago, kimmy said:

It sounds like Tillerson's confirmation hearing is not going well. Rubio lit him up, and with fellow Republicans Rand Paul, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham being openly skeptical about Tillerson, this one might not be a shoe-in.

Part of that is just political theatre for various American and foreign constituencies. If Tillerson is not confirmed, he can just go back to being a billionaire CEO.

blueblood · January 11, 2017

1 hour ago, Argus said:

You didn't answer the question. Reverse a thousand votes in a few states and the election goes the other way.

I've answered the question a lot. The Russians hack all day every day.

We don't know who hacked podestas computer. Russians, Iranians, North Koreans, bob from Silicon Valley, who knows?

The Benghazi emails were not hacked and came from subpoena.

Maybe if Hillary offered a coherent plan for what she wanted to do instead of being entitled to inherit it, her cadre didn't accuse a lot of the country as deplorable, maybe campaigned in Wisconsin, maybe listened to blue collar voters she would have won.

blueblood · January 11, 2017

1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:

Nobody knows exactly what he's worth, but his tax returns would give a good indication of that as well as whether his empire has been kept afloat by dark money from Russia, which seems likely to be the case.

Enough Americans didn't care to see his tax returns, however enough Americans didn't approve of the Clinton foundation kept afloat by dark money from Saudi Arabia.

BubberMiley · January 11, 2017

29 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Enough Americans didn't care to see his tax returns, however enough Americans didn't approve of the Clinton foundation kept afloat by dark money from Saudi Arabia.

But the Clinton Foundation was open, accountable, and a real charity. It didn't exist as a personal slush fund to build statues of Bill. But why would they not want to see his tax returns? They prefer not having all the information? That would make them....stupid.

blueblood · January 11, 2017

18 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

But the Clinton Foundation was open, accountable, and a real charity. It didn't exist as a personal slush fund to build statues of Bill. But why would they not want to see his tax returns? They prefer not having all the information? That would make them....stupid.

It was just a giant laundry machine for Saudi money. Money goes in favours come out.

people want to see the tax returns to find ways to slag candidates. Trump wasn't playing that game

BubberMiley · January 11, 2017

12 minutes ago, blueblood said:

It was just a giant laundry machine for Saudi money. Money goes in favours come out.

people want to see the tax returns to find ways to slag candidates. Trump wasn't playing that game

No, it's an accountable charity that does charitable work.

People want to see tax returns so they can know whether the candidate is owned by foreign interests. Trump wasn't playing that game.

blueblood · January 11, 2017

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

No, it's an accountable charity that does charitable work.

People want to see tax returns so they can know whether the candidate is owned by foreign interests. Trump wasn't playing that game.

And part of that charitable work was allowing foreign dictators to influence the White House. How's the Clinton foundation doing since Hillary has no power anymore?

yes trump is worth 4.5 billion dollars and is owned by someone... if the Billions owned by GOP donors couldn't reign him in than neither can the russkies.

BubberMiley · January 11, 2017

11 minutes ago, blueblood said:

And part of that charitable work was allowing foreign dictators to influence the White House. How's the Clinton foundation doing since Hillary has no power anymore?

yes trump is worth 4.5 billion dollars and is owned by someone... if the Billions owned by GOP donors couldn't reign him in than neither can the russkies.

The Russian mafia that Trump owes the 4.5 billion to have kept him reined in very well so far. And if he tries to assert U.S. independence, we all get to watch his golden showers videos. Thanks, Trump supporters!

bush_cheney2004 · January 11, 2017

27 minutes ago, blueblood said:

It was just a giant laundry machine for Saudi money. Money goes in favours come out.

Right...the Clinton Foundation was just a huge slush fund and scam to benefit the Clintons and partisan hacks. They used Haiti to great advantage, without providing much in the way of actual aid. Trump will never be able to repeat what the Clintons did in and out of office for influence peddling, speaking fees, even real estate scams going back to Arkansas. Besides, Trump already has his billions, with less need to raise money for legal bills and lawsuit payouts.

bush_cheney2004 · January 11, 2017

1 minute ago, BubberMiley said:

The Russian mafia that Trump owes the 4.5 billion to have kept him reined in very well so far. And if he tries to assert U.S. independence, we all get to watch his golden showers videos. Thanks, Trump supporters!

Trump wants to assert U.S. independence, but some Canadians don't want him to (TPP, NAFTA, NATO, NORAD,etc.). That's why Trudeau tried to impact Trump's candidacy, just like the Russians.