Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The world isn't perfect, so blame Trump for all it's problems. Praising negotiating partners isn't going to fix all the world's problems, but that doesn't mean it doesn't grease the wheels a little. Trumps praising so far has simply put "the wheels" into reverse. Sucking up to criminals is probably not the best way forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Owly said: Trumps praising so far has simply put "the wheels" into reverse. Sucking up to criminals is probably not the best way forward. The wheels aren't in reverse. I'm not a fan of negotiating with NK just for the sake of negotiation, but Trump is arming the Ukraine. Pretending he's pro-Russia is just media propaganda, actions speak louder than words, and Trump's actions show he's no dove on Russia, you might get distracted by words, and claims of collusion backed up with no evidence and mere Democrat wishful thinking, but I have my focus where it should be. Sucking up to Saudi Arabia is so they will be a better ally to pit against Iran. Edited April 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The wheels aren't in reverse. I'm not a fan of negotiating with NK just for the sake of negotiation, but Trump is arming the Ukraine. Pretending he's pro-Russia is just media propaganda, actions speak louder than words, and Trump's actions show he's no dove on Russia, you might get distracted by words, and claims of collusion backed up with no evidence and mere Democrat wishful thinking, but I have my focus where it should be. Sucking up to Saudi Arabia is so they will be a better ally to pit against Iran. Trumps "negotiating" with NK has completely backfired. Trump's pro Russia comments were recorded as he spoke alongside Putin, and the US-Saudi connection has been in existence long before Trump showed up. So does that mean he should sit back and just let the Saudi's murder American journalists that happen to speak out against the regime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Owly said: Trumps "negotiating" with NK has completely backfired. Trump's pro Russia comments were recorded as he spoke alongside Putin, and the US-Saudi connection has been in existence long before Trump showed up. So does that mean he should sit back and just let the Saudi's murder American journalists that happen to speak out against the regime? Trump is doing a bad job in NK. Focusing on words over actions in regards to Russia, typical owly. What is Trump supposed to do in regards to Saudi Arabia? You can't turn your back on a key proxy just because they kill a journalist. Edited April 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Trump is doing a bad job in NK. Focusing on words over actions in regards to Russia, typical owly. What is Trump supposed to do in regards to Saudi Arabia? You can't turn your back on a key proxy just because they kill a journalist. So they take an American journalist into their embassy on foreign soil, murder him and then dismember his body becuause they didn't like what he wrote, the US says nothing about it, and you call that a "just because"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Owly said: So they take an American journalist into their embassy on foreign soil, murder him and then dismember his body becuause they didn't like what he wrote, the US says nothing about it, and you call that a "just because"? The US said lots about it. Trump condemned the action himself. What would you have done in response? Edited April 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The US said lots about it. Trump condemned the action himself. US President Donald Trump has reiterated his support for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS, despite CIA assessment that the Saudi royal ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi inside the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/khashoggi-murder-trump-stands-saudi-crown-prince-181212073639270.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Owly said: US President Donald Trump has reiterated his support for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS, despite CIA assessment that the Saudi royal ordered the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi inside the kingdom's consulate in Istanbul https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/12/khashoggi-murder-trump-stands-saudi-crown-prince-181212073639270.html So? Is Trump supposed to go to war with Saudi Arabia over it? Slap some meaningless sanctions on them? Kill one of their journalists talking smack about America, eye for an eye? What's your plan on how to respond to it? Edited April 12, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Witch Hunt = Accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: So? Is Trump supposed to go to war with Saudi Arabia over it? Slap some meaningless sanctions on them? Kill one of their journalists talking smack about America, eye for an eye? What's your plan on how to respond to it? Condemn it in the strongest possible language and demand the murderers be brought in front of the ICC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Trump has now tried to have immigrants loaded in trucks and dump them off in sanctuary cities including Nancy Pelosi's district. Luckily immigration realized how ridiculous, and illgel that was and so thumbed their nose at him. Is there no bar too low for this idiot? 30 mins ago - White House officials tried to pressure immigration authorities to transport and release detained migrants onto the streets of “sanctuary cities" as a ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's district in San Francisco was among those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Owly said: Trump has now tried to have immigrants loaded in trucks and dump them off in sanctuary cities including Nancy Pelosi's district. Luckily immigration realized how ridiculous, and illgel that was and so thumbed their nose at him. Is there no bar too low for this idiot? 30 mins ago - White House officials tried to pressure immigration authorities to transport and release detained migrants onto the streets of “sanctuary cities" as a ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's district in San Francisco was among those LOL. Good idea. I hope they figure a way to do it. Transport all the tens of thousands crossing the border every month to the sanctuary cities. Let's see how long their sanctimonious sense of moral superiority lasts in the face of hordes of impoverished people roaming their streets. Berkeley definitely needs a few tens of thousands. Edited April 12, 2019 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Argus said: LOL. Good idea. I hope they figure a way to do it. Transport all the tens of thousands crossing the border every month to the sanctuary cities. Let's see how long their sanctimonious sense of moral superiority lasts in the face of hordes of impoverished people roaming their streets. Berkeley definitely needs a few tens of thousands. How very Donald Trumpian of you. But why am I not surprised by such a comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Owly said: How very Donald Trumpian of you. But why am I not surprised by such a comment. Why would you be? I feel those who are most determine to allow open immigration across the border ought to be the ones facing the consequences. Those numbers are crossing 100,000 a month now and expected to double. Ship them to the people screaming to eliminate ICE and sobbing over illegals being detained at the borders. Berkeley has a population of about 100,000. I think dumping a month's worth of illegals onto their streets is only fitting. Seattle and Portland definitely need a few hundred thousand apiece, of course. And San Fransisco loves illegals! What's the problem? Why should they just be dumped on the towns and cities closest to the border? Hardly seems fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Why would you be? I feel those who are most determine to allow open immigration across the border ought to be the ones facing the consequences. Those numbers are crossing 100,000 a month now and expected to double. Ship them to the people screaming to eliminate ICE and sobbing over illegals being detained at the borders. Berkeley has a population of about 100,000. I think dumping a month's worth of illegals onto their streets is only fitting. Seattle and Portland definitely need a few hundred thousand apiece, of course. And San Fransisco loves illegals! What's the problem? Why should they just be dumped on the towns and cities closest to the border? Hardly seems fair. Trump specifically wanted to dump detainees awaiting asylum hearings into streets near his political foes. Have you ever heard of the phrase "boorish behavior"? If not look it up and you should find a picture of Trump with this latest demonstration of it. ICE completely rejected the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Owly said: Trump specifically wanted to dump detainees awaiting asylum hearings into streets near his political foes. Have you ever heard of the phrase "boorish behavior"? If not look it up and you should find a picture of Trump with this latest demonstration of it. ICE completely rejected the idea. Maybe the new people in charge will change their minds. AFAIC the people who are most opposed to keeping illegals out should be the people who live with them and pay for them. The Democrats are demanding ICE and the border patrol detain fewer illlegals. That means they have to go somewhere. The most logical place for them is where they're wanted. Edited April 12, 2019 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Argus said: Maybe the new people in charge will change their minds. AFAIC the people who are most opposed to keeping illegals out should be the people who live with them and pay for them. The Democrats are demanding ICE and the border patrol detain fewer illlegals. That means they have to go somewhere. The most logical place is for them is where they're wanted. And you don't accomplish that by taking truck loads of them and dumping them into downtown. Unless you're a complete and utter moron. Oh yeah, we are talking about Trump aren't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 Not downtown around Skid Row...out in Malibu where they'll be welcomed with open arms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 It's the alt-left liberal democrats that want to flood America with more criminal illegals so why not dump them all in democratic controlled sanctuary cities. They want them, so take them. I hope that they cause those pro democratic sanctuary idiots plenty of problems. Many innocent Americans have been murdered by many of those wonderful illegals. The democrats could careless about those victims. At least Trump is trying to do something about it. If the fools out there put the democrats back in power at the next election America will be finished off for good. The democrats are for more criminal illegal immigration and not less. They see votes here. The liberal fools do not care about America. They just want to destroy America. So sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, taxme said: It's the alt-left liberal democrats that want to flood America with more criminal illegals so why not dump them all in democratic controlled sanctuary cities. They want them, so take them. I hope that they cause those pro democratic sanctuary idiots plenty of problems. Many innocent Americans have been murdered by many of those wonderful illegals. The democrats could careless about those victims. At least Trump is trying to do something about it. If the fools out there put the democrats back in power at the next election America will be finished off for good. The democrats are for more criminal illegal immigration and not less. They see votes here. The liberal fools do not care about America. They just want to destroy America. So sad. Most Americans are murdered by other Americans, by a long shot. But as usual your posts contain blatant racism and not fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, taxme said: It's the alt-left liberal democrats that want to flood America with more criminal illegals so why not dump them all in democratic controlled sanctuary cities. They want them, so take them. I hope that they cause those pro democratic sanctuary idiots plenty of problems. Many innocent Americans have been murdered by many of those wonderful illegals. The democrats could careless about those victims. At least Trump is trying to do something about it. If the fools out there put the democrats back in power at the next election America will be finished off for good. The democrats are for more criminal illegal immigration and not less. They see votes here. The liberal fools do not care about America. They just want to destroy America. So sad. The Left have weaponized identity politics. Now they must ride that rocket to impact. It's the whole plan for 2020...the evil 'white man' is coming to getcha! Better vote Democrat/Liberal if you want your identity protected from these deplorable people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Owly said: Most Americans are murdered by other Americans, by a long shot. You figure? I think people in America get the most presents at Xmas time, as well. What are the odds of that, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: The Left have weaponized identity politics. Now they must ride that rocket to impact. It's the whole plan for 2020...the evil 'white man' is coming to getcha! Better vote Democrat/Liberal if you want your identity protected from these deplorable people. Birds of a feather as always. Hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Owly said: And you don't accomplish that by taking truck loads of them and dumping them into downtown. Unless you're a complete and utter moron. Oh yeah, we are talking about Trump aren't we. The Democrats say they're not dangerous and they add to the economy. They should be grateful to have as many as possible! They'll be welcomed with open arms! Don't you care about the poor migrants!? Do you want them to go to cities and towns where people don't want them!? How cruel are you anyway!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Posted April 12, 2019 Report Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Argus said: The Democrats say they're not dangerous and they add to the economy. They should be grateful to have as many as possible! They'll be welcomed with open arms! Don't you care about the poor migrants!? Do you want them to go to cities and towns where people don't want them!? How cruel are you anyway!? They will go to cities and towns where they can seek opportunities for the skills they have. And I'm certainly not as cruel as you seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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