DogOnPorch Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 You don't HAVE to take part in the thread, no one is forcing you. Nor you. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Posted May 27, 2016 No...I asked you if you're familiar with the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion...mentioned earlier in this lovely thread. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm I am familiar with it, but I don't really care for it. It's just another distraction. What I am giving you is information and facts on the millions of dollars that are being poured into U.S. politics by people who have clearly stated that they are "a one-issue person and that issue is Israel". I have given you information on senators and congressmen who bring forward bills written by AIPAC. These senators and congressmen happen to also be the highest recipients of Zionist lobbies. Can you give a direct response to the following fact, instead of giving another distracted reply? Mother Jones compiled a list of the 400 leading contributors to the 2000 US national elections. Seven of the first ten were Jewish, as were twelve of the top 20, and 125 of the top 250. In recent years the single biggest donor to American politicians, by far, has been Sheldon Adelson, a vehemently pro-Zionist Jewish billionaire. In the 2012 US election campaign, the gambling casino magnate and his wife gave tens of millions of dollars to Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney and other pro-Israel candidates, groups and organizations. As The New York Times reported: “Mr. Adelson, whose $38 billion fortune makes him among the richest men in the world, poured roughly $100 million into Republican campaigns in 2012 ...” The biggest donor to Democratic Party candidates in recent years has been Haim Saban, an Israeli billionaire and global media mogul. Taking note of Saban’s ardent devotion to the Jewish state, The New York Timesreported: “He has since emerged as perhaps the most politically connected mogul in Hollywood, throwing his weight and money around Washington, and increasingly, the world, trying to influence all things Israeli. 'I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel,' he said.” M. J. Rosenberg, a political affairs analyst for The Nation, observed: “Adelson and Saban are top funders, respectively, of the Republican and Democratic parties, although as Adelson points out, 'when it comes to Israel we’re on the same side'.” "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 Indeed...you don't really care for it. You merely subscribe to all The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion's contents....because you're repeating them. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
taxme Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 You think there's anything about this endless posting of alleged outrages by the IDF or settlers is going to enlighten me about anything? A Jew bumps into an Arab and some anti-Semite is on here breathlessly expressing his indignation and outrage. A Palestinian lurks behind a wall, jumps out and stabs an elderly Jew to death and -- silence. What you and the others critical of Israel lack is CONTEXT. For a country surrounded by a vastly superior enemy who has resolutely refused any and all peace for decades, who has been attacking them constantly at every opportunity, who express their hate through every medium, the Israelis have come through surprisingly sane and democratic. I mean, given everyone in Israel has lived their whole lives knowing that on every border there is a mass of fanatic hate-gripped murderers waiting for an opportunity to dig their way under or blow their way through, or fly over the fences, just so they can kill a Jew or two, ANY Jew, even if they die trying, absolutely has had an emotional effect. How could it not!? The wonder is there are any Israeli Jews left who don't want to kill every Arab in existence. I don't know when in history any people have been given more reason to hate their neighbors for so long. I feel sorry for the Palestinians, because their culture too has been affected by this, and they too hate their neighbors with a passion. But they have been the victims, primarily, of the surrounding Arab governments and their cynical political manipulation. Every Jew expelled or driven from Arab countries was taken in by Israel. But the Palestinians who were driven from or left Israel have been left to rot in refugee camps by the surrounding Arab countries, even though generations of them were born there. No peace, has been the insistent phrase from everyone concerned, until Israel is gone and the Jews are dead. Without peace, Israel has been rightly focused on their security. And their security is something no Arab or Muslim leader has ever shown any effort to address, other than Sadat, who was murdered for it, because they don't want Israel secure. I guess that you never have heard of or listened to Helen Thomas, an ex-reporter now deceased, and what she said at a state department briefing one time? She said during a discussion on Israel that the Jews should get out of Palestine. And when asked where should the Jews go, she said that they should go back to Europe or wherever else they came from. She was of Lebanese ancestry and was well known for her knowledge on Middle Eastern affairs. In 1949, didn't all the Jews from around the world pile in on the Palestinians, and began to force and boot them off their lands? The Jews were all new illegal immigrants to that area in what is now called Israel. But hey, what do I know? I am just a gentile who knows nothing, right?
marcus Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Posted May 28, 2016 This is how politics work -- here is an example of Israel's influence over U.S. politics: Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) is leading a group of 19 Senate Republicans who plan to attach new Iran sanctions legislation to an annual Defense bill currently being debated, representing the latest salvo against the Iran deal from Congressional hawks. Q: Who is her biggest financial campaign contributor? A: NorPAC Q: Who is NorPAC? A: A multi-candidate political action committee (PAC) working to strengthen the United States-Israel relationship. The Israeli lobby has a lot of prostitutes in congress and senate. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 The Israeli lobby has a lot of prostitutes in congress and senate. The Senate is part of Congress...perhaps the House of Representatives? American voters support Israel far more than any Israeli lobbyists...with BILLIONS of their tax dollars Lots more love for Israel than for Iran or PA terrorists...maybe they need to find a big sugar daddy too. Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 With due respect, are we seriously supposed to be discussing how Jews control the government, media and banks? Seriously? No, no no! It's not JEWS people are denouncing! However could you imagine such a thing!? It's uh... "zionists". "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 No, no no! It's not JEWS people are denouncing! However could you imagine such a thing!? It's uh... "zionists". How many Jews are Zionists? I'd say close to 90+%...accounting for Hasidim and such...the Norm Finkelstein's of the planet and ilk. Most Jews are 'bad Jews' (Zionists), either way the numbers land. Most Jews don't make book sales off their parent's Holocaust tribulations...etc. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 Nor you. I am here by choice, hoping to add to the conversation. Others just like to troll. Which one do you like do, participate, or troll?
DogOnPorch Posted May 28, 2016 Report Posted May 28, 2016 I am here by choice, hoping to add to the conversation. Others just like to troll. Which one do you like do, participate, or troll? You haven't said how Jews control the banks, media and government....all 'ears' here. ....and....go. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 How many Jews are Zionists? I'd say close to 90+%...accounting for Hasidim and such...the Norm Finkelstein's of the planet and ilk. Most Jews are 'bad Jews' (Zionists), either way the numbers land. Most Jews don't make book sales off their parent's Holocaust tribulations...etc. How many germans were nazis in 1940's??? It is the sick, twisted and nationalistic ideology of zionism that resemles nazis...
marcus Posted May 29, 2016 Author Report Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) How many germans were nazis in 1940's??? It is the sick, twisted and nationalistic ideology of zionism that resemles nazis... Many of these nationalistic Zionists are in Israel. Outside Israel, many Jews and some Zionists (who like to call themselves liberal Zionists), are not as keen on what Israel is doing. But these liberal Zionists are prone to excusing and apologizing for many of the barbaric actions Israel commits. Christian Zionists are another discussion. Their beliefs and acceptance of Israel's actions stem from apocalyptic religious views and pure ignorance. Despite what some people on this forum are saying, there is a growing Jewish population, outside Israel, who are from various demographics that are against Israel's actions. The fastest growing demographic are young Jews, who cannot relate to Israel and cannot excuse its violations of human rights. They are also not limited in the information they receive in regards to what is really happening in the Middle East. This is why billionaire Zionists such as Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban have poured millions to shape the consent of university and college students. This is on top of the millions they're pouring into politics in order to continue to successfully influence U.S. politicians in their foreign policy. Edited May 29, 2016 by marcus "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) ....This is why billionaire Zionists such as Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban have poured millions to shape the consent of university and college students. This is on top of the millions they're pouring into politics in order to continue to successfully influence U.S. politicians in their foreign policy. As is their right as American citizens. I wonder why no fat cat Americans have "poured millions" towards the Palestinian cause ? Edited May 29, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 How many germans were nazis in 1940's??? It is the sick, twisted and nationalistic ideology of zionism that resemles nazis... Yes...that is one of the talking points of today's antisemites. I see you know it. It's the Palestinian Cause with the direct connection to the SS and the Holocaust. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 You haven't said how Jews control the banks, media and government....all 'ears' here. ....and....go. I never made such a claim... and go!
kactus Posted May 29, 2016 Report Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Yes...that is one of the talking points of today's antisemites. I see you know it. It's the Palestinian Cause with the direct connection to the SS and the Holocaust. Yep, apparently mufti is the one that made my bedroom colour black today and so I decided to piss in a pot.... Who gives a flying dime what you think on one should do or behave not to be labelled antisemite!? Edited May 30, 2016 by kactus
kactus Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 Many of these nationalistic Zionists are in Israel. Outside Israel, many Jews and some Zionists (who like to call themselves liberal Zionists), are not as keen on what Israel is doing. But these liberal Zionists are prone to excusing and apologizing for many of the barbaric actions Israel commits. Christian Zionists are another discussion. Their beliefs and acceptance of Israel's actions stem from apocalyptic religious views and pure ignorance. Despite what some people on this forum are saying, there is a growing Jewish population, outside Israel, who are from various demographics that are against Israel's actions. The fastest growing demographic are young Jews, who cannot relate to Israel and cannot excuse its violations of human rights. They are also not limited in the information they receive in regards to what is really happening in the Middle East. This is why billionaire Zionists such as Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban have poured millions to shape the consent of university and college students. This is on top of the millions they're pouring into politics in order to continue to successfully influence U.S. politicians in their foreign policy. This nationalistic movement is as dangerous as nazis were.
marcus Posted May 30, 2016 Author Report Posted May 30, 2016 This nationalistic movement is as dangerous as nazis were. The everyday Israeli's collective acceptance of violence against another group of people and the racism against them does give us a glimpse into how so many Germans ended up supporting the Nazi government. "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 Yep, apparently mufti is the one that made my bedroom colour black today and so I decided to piss in a pot.... Who gives a flying dime what you think on one should do or behave not to be labelled antisemite!? You are one, so I see no harm in calling you one. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 The everyday Israeli's collective acceptance of violence against another group of people and the racism against them does give us a glimpse into how so many Germans ended up supporting the Nazi government. It's the Palestinian Cause with the direct connections to the Third Reich. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 Yes...that is one of the talking points of today's antisemites. It's the Palestinian Cause ... So your position is ... All criticism of Israel is antisemitism. and All support for Palestinians is antisemitism. Have I got that correct? .
DogOnPorch Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 So your position is ... All criticism of Israel is antisemitism. and All support for Palestinians is antisemitism. Have I got that correct? . His is... Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 Yourself, I think you're just ignorant of the Palestinian Cause's Nazi connection. Good people don't support Nazis...you're a good person...right? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 You are one, so I see no harm in calling you one. No harm for me then to call you something else.
Charles Anthony Posted May 30, 2016 Report Posted May 30, 2016 Folks, Stop the personal attacks. We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
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