Is anyone else tired of folks touting Multiculturalism because of food

[Vega]

I was having a discussion the other day with someone when we got on the topic of multiculturalism. I was saying why it isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and, like many things, looks great on paper but is poor in practice.

This person's first reason for the greatness of multiculturalism was something that I've heard many times online and from others, but this time it really struck a nerve with me, and that is that how much cuisine has been helped my it, as well as that it is a 'big perk' and reason we should keep promoting Multiculturalism.

I've never heard something more shallow in my life, and I'm not sure how someone could think like that. Do people think that on this forum?

Edited April 23, 2016 by Vega

[Argus]

Yes, I've heard it here before. You have to remember that people on the left are wracked by liberal guilt over the political incorrectness of our ancestors. They long to make up for it by showing how much they love and respect and admire everyone who isn't white. Somehow that seems to help them deal with their guilt. This is also why we have a huge annual intake of immigrants. If all our immigrants were white Europeans those on the Left would long since have demanded to know why we keep bringing people here, and demanded evidence of how this is benefiting us. Since they're mostly non-white, however, everyone on the Left eagerly embraces immigration. The more, in fact, the better.

Edited April 23, 2016 by Argus

[The_Squid]

I recently had Ethiopian food in Yellowknife of all places! Best restaurant in town! Thank God (or P.E.T.) for our multicultural society!

[eyeball]

Is anyone else tired of folks touting Multiculturalism because of food

I never tire of anything that gets up a right-wing conservatives nose and if the smell of foreign food wrinkles them up even more then so much the better. In fact I think I just might open the windows and fry up a couple of tacos for dinner.

[BC_chick]

If you don't like multiculturalism, food is definitely not a good enough reason, but if you're not opposed to the idea, then it's not far-fetched to bring up food as one of the reasons.

I think the cause and effect are probably interchangeable.

[Guest]

I'll eat pretty much anything except oysters and snails. The idea that one is accepting of a culture if they eat the food is a bit silly, in my opinion. I love falafel, after all.

Oooh, and what about Tex Mex dip?

Edited April 23, 2016 by bcsapper

[Hal 9000]

I think that given the option, most people would want to live with those of the same race and/or culture.

I had a shawarma yesterday from a Syrian restaurant.

[Guest]

Wow, what are the odds...?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/22/curry-restaurants-crisis-immigration-rules-chefs

[Big Guy]

I was having a discussion the other day with someone when we got on the topic of multiculturalism. I was saying why it isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and, like many things, looks great on paper but is poor in practice.

This person's first reason for the greatness of multiculturalism was something that I've heard many times online and from others, but this time it really struck a nerve with me, and that is that how much cuisine has been helped my it, as well as that it is a 'big perk' and reason we should keep promoting Multiculturalism.

I've never heard something more shallow in my life, and I'm not sure how someone could think like that. Do people think that on this forum?

I would suggest that you use more than that one source opinion on which to formulate your own views on multiculturalism. I would suggest that research into a topic as complicated as this issue would require many more research methods than one persons anecdotal opinion.

I recently shared a libation with an individual who informed me that Mike Harris and Stephen Harper were close cousins and that Harper was currently in the USA organizing an army to come back and take over Ottawa. Since I could find no verification of that view on the Internet, I am suspect of the authenticity of that view.

[eyeball]

If you don't like multiculturalism, food is definitely not a good enough reason, but if you're not opposed to the idea, then it's not far-fetched to bring up food as one of the reasons.

I think the cause and effect are probably interchangeable.

I get the sense the OP implies people in our neck of the interwebs can't come up with good reasons for multiculturalism. Of course we can but it's not our fault folks who keep asking for them can't or won't.

In any case my own reasons are more longer-term and ranked according to what I think is most important; biological, ecological, ethical and economic.

My biggest hope for multiculturalism is that it will lead us faster to the eventual inevitable browning of humanity and an end to one of the more repellant reasons our species has for squabbling, racialism. Perhaps our evolution towards being one globally homogenous species will impart a better ethic towards other biological communities we share the planet with. Speaking of ethics I've long believed it's quite unethical to allow money to flow unimpeded around the planet but not human beings. Building a global economy without first having put in place a global government to manage it will, I believe, prove to be the key reason for the failure of our first attempt at building a global civilization. Oh well, coulda shoulda.

I figure another 10,000 to 50,000 years of evolution should do it.

In the short-term, I fail to see why promoting multiculturalism as means of entertainment isn't a valid one, especially as it relates to wrinkling the sensitivities of right-wing proboscis'. The only thing I can imagine would be more fun would be to pull their nose hairs out with tweezers.

[Hal 9000]

I get the sense the OP implies people in our neck of the interwebs can't come up with good reasons for multiculturalism. Of course we can but it's not our fault folks who keep asking for them can't or won't.

In any case my own reasons are more longer-term and ranked according to what I think is most important; biological, ecological, ethical and economic.

My biggest hope for multiculturalism is that it will lead us faster to the eventual inevitable browning of humanity and an end to one of the more repellant reasons our species has for squabbling, racialism. Perhaps our evolution towards being one globally homogenous species will impart a better ethic towards other biological communities we share the planet with. Speaking of ethics I've long believed it's quite unethical to allow money to flow unimpeded around the planet but not human beings. Building a global economy without first having put in place a global government to manage it will, I believe, prove to be the key reason for the failure of our first attempt at building a global civilization. Oh well, coulda shoulda.

I figure another 10,000 to 50,000 years of evolution should do it.

In the short-term, I fail to see why promoting multiculturalism as means of entertainment isn't a valid one, especially as it relates to wrinkling the sensitivities of right-wing proboscis'. The only thing I can imagine would be more fun would be to pull their nose hairs out with tweezers.

You'll never get the "browning of humanity". While white folks are naive, you can believe that asians and mid easterners aren't. Sure the white race will die, and if you look at birth rates, it won't take 10,000 years. The world will never be multicultural, the muslims and asians will end up fighting for control of the world.

Edited April 25, 2016 by Hal 9000

[eyeball]

Coulter Hates ‘the Browning of America’

The motormouth claims the U.S. is being ruined by an influx of immigrants from Latin America, Asia, and Africa. Is this performance art or is she for real?

The Brookings Institution demographer William Frey would seem a good candidate to lead readers to a clear, propaganda-free understanding of what diversity is. The title of his new study on ethnicity and population change is Diversity Explosion. While he never defines the word explicitly, he means the decline—in both population and vitality—of America’s European-descended population, and its replacement by more recently arrived population groups from everywhere in the non-European world. Frey sometimes describes this change as “the browning of America.”

First we take Manhattan....

[Vega]

There are perfectly valid reasons in a debate why Multiculturalism is the way to go, but, and I brought it up because I've heard from so many people (not an isolated couple), that food is one of them. At first I thought it was sort of an off handed joke, but the more I hear it the more I think that people do think like that.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Vega

[msj]

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I figure another 10,000 to 50,000 years of evolution should do it.

Man, you really need to read Kurt Vonnegut's "Galapagos." I think you will really enjoy it based on what you have written here.

[msj]

In a free society what other options are there?

I can't imagine going back to a time Canada was dominated by Christianity and really crappy food.

Very thankful for what the Portuguese have done for this world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_cuisine#Influences_on_world_cuisine

Also thankful for Vietnamese, Thai, Laotian, Japanese, Chinese, French, Italian.

Is someone going to force me to eat bangers and mash and force me to pray to Jesus?

[The_Squid]

I think that given the option, most people would want to live with those of the same race and/or culture.

I had a shawarma yesterday from a Syrian restaurant.

I think you should speak for yourself... I don't think most people are like that at all. I have friends of many racial backgrounds and couldn't care less about the difference in skin colour or backgrounds... in fact, it's interesting! Edited April 24, 2016 by The_Squid

[Guest]

In a free society what other options are there?

I can't imagine going back to a time Canada was dominated by Christianity and really crappy food.

Very thankful for what the Portuguese have done for this world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_cuisine#Influences_on_world_cuisine

Also thankful for Vietnamese, Thai, Laotian, Japanese, Chinese, French, Italian.

Is someone going to force me to eat bangers and mash and force me to pray to Jesus?

Mmmm.... Bangers and mash....

[Hal 9000]

I think you should speak for yourself... I don't think most people are like that at all. I have friends of many racial backgrounds and couldn't care less about the difference in skin colour or backgrounds... in fact, it's interesting!

Every...every minority finds a place where there are people of their own culture. Sure, you can find any type of cultural person in any community, but for the most part people stick with their own kind.

There are black neighbourhoods, Italian areas, cuban, hispanic, vietnamese, chinese, muslim, jewish even gay communities...you name it. People generally want to be with their own. Go check out any major city. Have a look at Vancouver or Toronto.

The Chinese are taking over Vancouver and they'll be quite open about not wanting white people in their neighbourhood. The Chinese don't want multiculturalism, they want the land and they want white people out.

[Vega]

You have to be careful about saying "The Chinese" or "The Muslims" or "The ___", though, because the actions of some or even the majority does not speak for all of that group.

Just like how bereaved Natives blaming "The Whites" is also dangerous because of the feelings it inspires towards one community to another.

I personally think a prudent immigration policy and interculturalism not unlike Quebec is the way to go, but the policy of culturalism is a battle that is unlikely to change anything at this point, immigration is another story.

[nerve]

who cares,

people are people,

if it ain't breaking the law

live and let live.

You know its the Christians, Muslims etc. and other people pushing their values on others expecting others to live a certain way that are causing a lot of social conflict because they want people to live their way.

Multiculturalism is all about telling those people to screw off.

Practice your practices but as soon as you start forcing others to live your way it is a cult mentality and should not be accepted.

People who are living up to the expectations of the law should be left to live their life.

We have a lot to learn from others histories and life ways.

It is such an americanism to think in terms of black and white.

We are well beyond the days of colonization and slavery.

People have sex with everyone these days.

Canada is a place where muts can live or people can come over and integrate, but they arn't forced to unless it violates the law.

The fact it ain't against the law is a testament to the fact there isn't anything morally wrong with the way they live.

When you make laws to make their ways illegal to target them, that is just wrong. Laws should effect all society not just one group within society.

You think the Christians would have learned from what the Romans did to them in the early days in not persecuting others for their beliefs.

The premise of non-persecution is essential to the premise of multiculturalism.

People who don't understand that and don't support it hopefully live short lives.

Personal security and rule of reasonable fundamental law is where it is at anything that is tainted with classisms and difference is going to tear down society.

People who want to engage in persecution should go back to their old country, regardless of what white country they originate in.

With 1.5 billion people statistics claim being christian and 1 billion muslims, and 1 billion hindus, and 1 billion and half a billion buddists, these major religions are really drowing things out around the world

Fact is humanity needs a fundamental middle ground, but some of these religions violate the essential expectations because christianity and muslim religions call for people to be killed or persecuted, the religions are old fashioned and do not espouse peaceful coexistence, they call for the murder and destruction of anything that isn't them.

It is a great problem for society. They contain hate speech but are sacred.

You know after the second comming and muslims gehena or whatever it is, global population will be lower and those religions will be extinct, so the sooner it gets done the sooner we will have a working society.

I'm pretty sure it is the jews who really don't want a working society to exist, because they have a really bad role to play. It isn't really very fair to them. Although most are in New York now, so it wouldn't wipe them out. None the less there are no simple answers for the time being the less people that get killed or persecuted for their law abiding beleifs the better, multiculturalism reduces social tensions and waters down the homicidal tendencies entrenched in the major world religions. They didn't get to where they are by convincing their logic but rather removing anything that opposed their views.'

There is a point when it will just be too much of a priority to do anything but cooperate because the planet is so screwed up after 3000 years of neglect.

It is not about us, but rather about the planet we live on, and the ways we have adapted to survive and thrive on it.

Multiculturalism is a life saver.

Edited April 24, 2016 by nerve

[Hal 9000]

Sure, multiculturalism would be great, so would world peace. History tells us that it will never happen though.

Nearly every country in the would has had major groups try to invade...or lets say settle. These groups were either pushed back or if that wasn't possible, they took over and brought their way way of life - either political, legal or religious...whatever.

We've seen it everywhere from south africa to north america to australia, Israel etc etc. It's been done with stones, swords, politics (treaties), tanks and money. The fact is; when enough people arrive somewhere, they don't share, they inevitably change society to their world views. Multiculturalism is even a struggle in Quebec and they actually have similar political and religious views as us.

In Vancouver, the Chinese are buying that city at a feverish pitch and will soon be the majority (probably in about 10 years). In 20 years from now, Vancouver will be a Chinese city and they couldn't care less about us or multiculturalism. Our politics and laws will change in ways that will isolate us and our belief systems. The evidence is right there for everyone to see.

Now, before everyone claims I'm afraid of something or other, or I'm just hateful...no, I'm just able to see the picture before all the dots are connected.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Hal 9000

[jacee]

I was having a discussion the other day with someone when we got on the topic of multiculturalism. I was saying why it isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and, like many things, looks great on paper but is poor in practice.

Works well in my neighbourhood.

You got a problem in yours?

Seems the complaints are often somebody heard something from somebody else ... or the fright wing media.

This person's first reason for the greatness of multiculturalism was something that I've heard many times online and from others, but this time it really struck a nerve with me, and that is that how much cuisine has been helped my it, as well as that it is a 'big perk' and reason we should keep promoting Multiculturalism.

I've never heard something more shallow in my life, and I'm not sure how someone could think like that. Do people think that on this forum?

Well ... I might say something like that if I wanted to avoid someone's anti-(brown)immigrant rant.

But seriously ... I remember overdone roast beef and mushy vegetables.

Bring on the shwarma, chimichanga, Dahl, pho ... please!

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[DogOnPorch]

Our supermarket has an 'ethnic' aisle ...whatever that is. It's where the sauerkraut is...

[Guest]

Works well in my neighbourhood.

You got a problem in yours?

Seems the complaints are often somebody heard something from somebody else ... or the fright wing media.

Well ... I might say something like that if I wanted to avoid someone's anti-(brown)immigrant rant.

But seriously ... I remember overdone roast beef and mushy vegetables.

Bring on the shwarma, chimichanga, Dahl, pho ... please!

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Obviously you've never had yorkshire pudding...

[jacee]

Obviously you've never had yorkshire pudding...

Once in a while. Not good as a steady diet. ?

Without international food, the North American diet is pretty unhealthy.

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Edited April 24, 2016 by jacee