Politcal correct - is it time to go?

[WestCanMan]

it happens too often. is what I said.

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"It" is also just a figment of the imagination too often is what I said.

1) carding isn't a big deal and

2) you don't know why police officers card the people they do.

They go out on patrol and they have people of interest to look for in certain areas. "A ________ male approx xx-xx+5 yrs old wearing ____________. Standing ______ feet tall and weighing approx _____ lbs.

Ever watched the first 48 or anything lie that? Police are always on the lookout for a certain description in a certain area. Wearing ________ is never "a suit".

Anyone who dresses or acts like a punk in an area where there is a lot of crime is going to get carded frequently, regardless of any other factors.

[taxme]

That was my point for challenging him. However I never received a response.

I never was able to reply too you as I was sent on a banned holiday for something that I said. I don't know what I said but it got me banned.

[G Huxley]

Political correctness has become Orwellian Newspeak.

e.g. how the word xenophobe is bastardized and abused and warped to mean something completely different from the original meaning.

If you are opposed to being colonized (immigration) now you are labeled a xenophobe.

However such people have no concept of what the word xenophobe literally means.

A Xenos was the Greek word for a guest. In Ancient Greece if a person arrived as a guest one should offer them hospitality. It is still like this in some places and was like this in some places traditionally in Europe e.g. France.

If a person typically avoided providing hospitality to guests they were considered a xenophobe.

Now the term has been perverted to meaning 'opposition to colonization of your country.' This is the complete opposite of what the Greeks considered xenophobia. If a person overstayed their welcome they were no longer Xenos, and if they refused to leave they were a colonist. The Ancient Greeks fought tooth and nail against colonists.

Edited May 17, 2016 by G Huxley

[jacee]

"It" is also just a figment of the imagination too often is what I said.

1) carding isn't a big deal

Oh yes it is.

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2) you don't know why police officers card the people they do.

Neither do they.

Except to intimidate people, scare them off the streets ... people of colour especially.

They go out on patrol and they have people of interest to look for in certain areas. "A ________ male approx xx-xx+5 yrs old wearing ____________. Standing ______ feet tall and weighing approx _____ lbs.

Ever watched the first 48 or anything lie that? Police are always on the lookout for a certain description in a certain area.

Carding is not about such crimes under investigation.

Carding is about no crime at all.

Wearing ________ is never "a suit".

Anyone who dresses or acts like a punk in an area where there is a lot of crime is going to get carded frequently, regardless of any other factors.

Ya a black City Councillor in a sports jacket waiting for a bus is a real "punk". :/

Police have never released any evidence that random carding of people on the streets ever solved any crimes.

Police can stick their 'cards' where the sun don't shine.

Walk away.

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[WestCanMan]

Oh yes it is.

Neither do they.

Except to intimidate people, scare them off the streets ... people of colour especially.

Carding is not about such crimes under investigation.

Carding is about no crime at all.

Ya a black City Councillor in a sports jacket waiting for a bus is a real "punk". :/

Police have never released any evidence that random carding of people on the streets ever solved any crimes.

Police can stick their 'cards' where the sun don't shine.

Walk away.

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All you have is baseless accusations and a complete lack of interest in understanding anything.

There's a saying that you can always get 50% of the poor people to kill the other 50%. It's because they are just looking for someone to blame for their situation. This is a classic case of someone forming an opinion based on a complete lack of objectivity and then...

[taxme]

It should've been kicked out the first time it got introduced! It's a violation of our Constitutional Right!

That's the problem with some "law-makers" these days - they just legislate. They don't see far ahead....they don't study/analyze well-enough to see complications and how it will affect everything. Common sense is out!

It's like a pebble thrown in the water, of course there are ripple effects.

We should have a sizeable list of stupid things that stem out from political correctness!

Catering to SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS only makes a mess of things!

Let's face it. That's just what it is: catering to special groups!

Government "IS" the problem. Minorities are the problem. Everyone has a right to be stupid. Politicians just abuse it.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Long before PC there were such things as good manners, courtesy and respect. Make sure you keep them.

[PIK]

The 1st 48 must be a racist show since 98% of the perps are black. Even the shows that showed life in major jails must be racist because most inmates were black. Terrible.

[?Impact]

The 1st 48 must be a racist show since 98% of the perps are black. Even the shows that showed life in major jails must be racist because most inmates were black. Terrible.

I will use US FBI data for 2014, because black crime is certainly higher in the US than Canada. This is for violent crime arrests:

“White” 6,056,687 or 69.4%

“Black or African American” 2,427,683 or 27.8%

“American Indian or Alaska Native” 135,599 or 1.6%

Asian 100,067 or 1.1%

“Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander” 10,629 or 0.1%

​I will let you conclude who is the racist.

[Argus]

I will use US FBI data for 2014, because black crime is certainly higher in the US than Canada. This is for violent crime arrests:

“White” 6,056,687 or 69.4%

“Black or African American” 2,427,683 or 27.8%

“American Indian or Alaska Native” 135,599 or 1.6%

Asian 100,067 or 1.1%

“Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander” 10,629 or 0.1%

​I will let you conclude who is the racist.

The FBI crime stats are based upon the US definition of races which is made by the US Office of Management and Budget. It says so right in the FBI crime stats.

Updated Race and Ethnicity Collection Categories—To comply with the race and ethnicity designations specified by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget and https://www.fbi.gov/...oming January 1

Until very recently, the definition of "white" included Hispanics and Latinos. They were separated out a couple of years ago but it is going to take quite a while for all the state and municipal police organizations to also separate these stats out to get a better idea of who is committing crimes.

Those of middle eastern background are still, however, considered to be "white" for the purpose of these statistics.

White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

https://grants.nih.g...-OD-15-089.html

[cybercoma]

The 1st 48 must be a racist show since 98% of the perps are black. Even the shows that showed life in major jails must be racist because most inmates were black. Terrible.

Consider that they pick and choose what cases to show and given the stats below from ?Impact--

I will use US FBI data for 2014, because black crime is certainly higher in the US than Canada. This is for violent crime arrests:

“White” 6,056,687 or 69.4%

“Black or African American” 2,427,683 or 27.8%

“American Indian or Alaska Native” 135,599 or 1.6%

Asian 100,067 or 1.1%

“Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander” 10,629 or 0.1%

​I will let you conclude who is the racist.

--it's pretty safe to say these shows are sensationalized and only show a certain narrative of crime that fits a racist society's prejudiced ideas of criminality.

[cybercoma]

The FBI crime stats are based upon the US definition of races which is made by the US Office of Management and Budget. It says so right in the FBI crime stats.

Updated Race and Ethnicity Collection Categories—To comply with the race and ethnicity designations specified by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget and https://www.fbi.gov/...oming January 1

Until very recently, the definition of "white" included Hispanics and Latinos. They were separated out a couple of years ago but it is going to take quite a while for all the state and municipal police organizations to also separate these stats out to get a better idea of who is committing crimes.

Those of middle eastern background are still, however, considered to be "white" for the purpose of these statistics.

White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

https://grants.nih.g...-OD-15-089.html

Why it's almost as if race is a lot more complex than knuckle dragging racist neanderthals consider.

[bush_cheney2004]

I will use US FBI data for 2014, because black crime is certainly higher in the US than Canada. This is for violent crime arrests:

Of course...nothing informs political correctness in Canada like U.S. demographic crime data. It's just easier that way.

[cybercoma]

Of course...nothing informs political correctness in Canada like U.S. demographic crime data. It's just easier that way.

Funny how you didn't play your American routine when PIK brought up The First 48, an American show about American crimes.

[Smoke]

I will use US FBI data for 2014, because black crime is certainly higher in the US than Canada. This is for violent crime arrests:

“White” 6,056,687 or 69.4%

“Black or African American” 2,427,683 or 27.8%

“American Indian or Alaska Native” 135,599 or 1.6%

Asian 100,067 or 1.1%

“Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander” 10,629 or 0.1%

​I will let you conclude who is the racist.

Not too shabby at all. 40% of crime committed by less than 15% of the population. Thanks for making Argus' point for him.

[bush_cheney2004]

Funny how you didn't play your American routine when PIK brought up The First 48, an American show about American crimes.

I've already discussed The First 48 in a previous thread.....obviously it's American. Political correctness in Canada routinely means references to American media and culture...by definition.

[cybercoma]

Not too shabby at all. 40% of crime committed by less than 15% of the population. Thanks for making Argus' point for him.

You might want to get your calculator fixed.

[Smoke]

Let me rephrase that. When comparing black crimes vs. white crimes, the number of crimes committed by blacks is approx. 40% of the number of crimes committed by whites.....

27.8 / 69.4 x 100 = 40.06%

....yet they make up less than 15% of the population.

[cybercoma]

Let me rephrase that. When comparing black crimes vs. white crimes, the number of crimes committed by blacks is approx. 40% of the number of crimes committed by whites.....

27.8 / 69.4 x 100 = 40.06%

....yet they make up less than 15% of the population.

70% of crime is committed by white people is what you're saying? Got it.

[Argus]

Let me rephrase that. When comparing black crimes vs. white crimes, the number of crimes committed by blacks is approx. 40% of the number of crimes committed by whites.....

27.8 / 69.4 x 100 = 40.06%

....yet they make up less than 15% of the population.

The problem of Black crime, and to an extent which isn't as easily verifiable, Hispanic crime, because it has not previously been separately tracked, is that it's much more likely to be street crime, and thus involve strangers, and also more likely to fall into the more severe categories. For example, if you look at the chart you'll see that 4,379 Blacks were arrested for murder, and 3,799 Whites. Since Blacks make up 12.2% of the population it's really rather shocking that their arrest numbers should outnumber that of Whites.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014

And if you look at some of the data the picture becomes even more eye opening.

The homicide rate for whites (non Hispanic) for example, is 2.7 (per 100,000). The corresponding rate for Hispanics is 7.6, for natives, 7.8, and for Blacks, 23.1.

Accuracy in Media did a story on the ongoing progressive view of police attacking poor defenseless blacks, which is worth reading.

http://www.aim.org/special-report/black-criminals-white-victims-and-white-guilt/

[bush_cheney2004]

There is now a backlash against politically correct motivations in Canadian crime statistics because the left/progressives hurt themselves with earlier decisions:

Canada’s most widely read newspaper, The Toronto Star, is lamenting the lack of racial crime statistics aggregated by the city’s police service.

The piece notes the irony of the left’s current appetite for such data given its role in halting its collection over two decades ago. However, it argues that, currently, the costs outweigh the benefits of not collecting such data: “…We’re left with a dearth of knowledge. And now some of the very people who most passionately demanded the abandonment of race statistics decades ago — because of the clear harm caused — are advocating for that information to be collected and accessible.”

....After black activist groups and social agencies condemned Fantino for exacerbating what they viewed as existing prejudices against black people, the municipality banned the compilation of racial crime statistics.

Fast forward to 2015. The Toronto Star, along with other media allies, is doing its part to hype the #BlackLivesMatter movement and narrative which has leaked into Canada via political osmosis. While racial agitation is not new to Canada, it is certainly enjoying a resurgence in recent years. In order to best frame Canada as a bastion of white supremacy, cesspool of systemic discrimination, and purveyor of white privilege, the left wants cold hard data to misinterpret. Unfortunately, its hysteria many years ago aborted a process they now wish to exploit.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/31/toronto-star-laments-lack-of-racial-crime-data-it-helped-purge-decades-ago/

So as in many other topic areas for which Canadian data does not exist or is much harder to access, the go to resources and references are to be found in the United States.