Will Canada ever become the 51st State of America?

[Flint]

We already are thanks to Brian.

Edited December 14, 2017 by Flint
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[Argus]

13 hours ago, Flint said:

We already are thanks to Brian.

Demonstrably and logically untrue in any way, shape or form.

[Michael Hardner]

Ok, with 10% of the 'pop' we get 10% of the states, or 5 states.

So, BC & Yukon, Prairie, Ontario, Quebec, Maritimes.  And Nunavut gets carved up between the provinces below it.   Or a territory maybe.

Also another row of 5 stars under the bottom row of 6 makes 55.  

The US becomes a wonderful liberal paradise, healthcare for all, and the alt-right moves to Argentina.  What a country !

[bush_cheney2004]

Interesting factoid from new book, Maximum Canada, which proposes an ideal Canadian population of 100 million:

 

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...In most of the decades from 1850 to 1950, a time when tens of millions of ambitious people flooded out of Europe and Asia for the New World, Canada experienced a net migratory loss. By the end of the Second World War, Canada had attracted 6.7 million immigrants, but had lost 6.3 million Canadians – generally our more educated and successful citizens – who emigrated to other countries, mainly the United States.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/doug-saunders-maximum-canada-population-problem/article36275893/

 

[taxme]

9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Interesting factoid from new book, Maximum Canada, which proposes an ideal Canadian population of 100 million:

 

 

 Although I must say that thanks to Expo 1986 in Vancouver many of our ancient and archaic liquor laws here in BC have changed for the better. And now reading that story makes me wonder as to why this was allowed to proceed and as to who was behind this stupidity of raiding these pubs like they did anyway? This province still has some archaic and ridiculous liquor laws and still has a long way to go to catch up to the rest of the world. Let's hope that these pubs get together and try and change this silly rule that they must by their liquor from the government. 

A couple of years ago the liquor law was changed here in BC to allow grocery stores to sell beer, wine and spirits on their shelves. But I later learned that those grocery stores could not sell booze if any of them were within one mile of a government liquor store. Well, that pretty much nixed that idea of being able to go into a grocery store and be able to buy booze along with your milk and eggs because most of the grocery stores in the lower mainland of Vancouver have a government liquor store within a mile of a grocery store. So, here we go again. Another silly ass rule brought to us by some silly bureaucratic buffoon. 

When I go across the border at Blaine, Washington, I can go just about anywhere in that state and buy booze. I can even buy beer and wine in gas stations. Fill your vehicle up and yourself also. Chuckle. Just one mile north of the border into Canada there is a gas station that does not and no doubt will ever be able to sell beer and wine in their gas station. Holy shit, man, that would be just terrible. What about the kids? 

And as the story goes, people can now buy cannabis legally on the streets in Vancouver from vendors who do not have a licence to sell pot, and the government appears to not want to do anything about it. This province is and has some strange politicians running this province. 

Now the question I have to ask is if some dumbed down guy or gal on pot decides to go into a restaurant and lights up a joint, will he be asked to butt out? I wonder if the same rules will apply to those people who could say that they need to smoke pot for health reasons and so therefore they should be allowed to smoke in a restaurant? Then and how will the tobacco smokers react to that one? Here in BC one never knows how or what our BC liberal/socialist politicians will do these days. Sometimes I think that most of them are on pot. They sure act like it because they do and make up a lot of stupid laws and stuff that makes no sense at all. 

Hey, you never know, eh? 

Edited January 20, 2018 by taxme

[cannuck]

On 12/18/2016 at 1:28 PM, DogOnPorch said:

Thanks for agreeing...finally.

Next-up knots at sea and in the air...discuss.

A Nautical Mile is one minute of latitude and officially is part of the SI system of measurements and standards accepted internationally.  The Yanks use "standard" measurements that are a mish-mash of Imperial and domestic things, but in reality, US manufacturing is drifting over to SI - where aviation speed and distance has always been (but not altitude).  Speaking of which, a Fathom is purely Imperial but within the US (not sure which of two definitions of fathom they use in the US).  Worth noting that in purely "metrified" Canada, we fly in nautical miles at an altitude measured in feet in airplanes assembled with fasteners all made to American inch standards of diameter, length and thread pitch.

[cannuck]

On 12/14/2017 at 7:31 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Ok, with 10% of the 'pop' we get 10% of the states, or 5 states.

So, BC & Yukon, Prairie, Ontario, Quebec, Maritimes.  And Nunavut gets carved up between the provinces below it.   Or a territory maybe.

Also another row of 5 stars under the bottom row of 6 makes 55.  

The US becomes a wonderful liberal paradise, healthcare for all, and the alt-right moves to Argentina.  What a country !

The US does not NEED any sort of balance of state size.  Yes, PEI would be only 1/3 of the pop of WY, but with 2 senate seats from each province, we would fit comfortably as the 51st to 62nd states (territories all one since even less population than PEI??)

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, cannuck said:

The US does not NEED any sort of balance of state size.  Yes, PEI would be only 1/3 of the pop of WY, but with 2 senate seats from each province, we would fit comfortably as the 51st to 62nd states (territories all one since even less population than PEI??)

They would not provide us 20% of the senate seats at 10% of the population.  They don't even give Puerto Rico full rights and the plundered them [edit: sorry, colonized but not in a British way] over a century ago I think.

Edited May 13, 2018 by Michael Hardner

[JamesHackerMP]

Puerto Rico speaks Spanish. Statehood would require either imposing English on them as a national language, or accepting Spanish as a second language for all federal communication. Either option is unacceptable to somebody.

So no way we would integrate Canada into the Union. You're pretty safe from us now, territorially-speaking.

[taxme]

On 4/2/2016 at 7:50 PM, August1991 said:

"... a country within a country ... "

Not bad as a description of the UK, within the EU -but then, the UK is outside Schengen.

OTOH, Norway is a small civilized country whose people have chosen to do things differently from what the EU bureaucrats think is good. With its own language, energy, Norway has its own currency, its own immigration policy - Norway is not a member of the EU.

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Norway: As a model for Quebec, not bad.

Iceland is a country that the world should admire and want to follow. Didn't the Islandic government jail the globalist banksters for what they did back in 2008? Their banksters went to jail while our banksters got bailed out. 

Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic told the EU to keep all their illegal migrants and pretty much told the EU to shove their immigration policy up the you know where. 

 

[taxme]

On 5/13/2018 at 7:18 PM, JamesHackerMP said:

Puerto Rico speaks Spanish. Statehood would require either imposing English on them as a national language, or accepting Spanish as a second language for all federal communication. Either option is unacceptable to somebody.

So no way we would integrate Canada into the Union. You're pretty safe from us now, territorially-speaking.

I wish that we had a common currency though. The American dollar would work for me. The Canadian peso stinks. 

[JamesHackerMP]

"Canadian peso" LOL. (It would certainly solve the matter of whether to remove MacDonald from whichever note he's on now, right?)

Still, would any Canadian province ever consent to join the United States? Even if the U.S. allowed that province (or new state) to keep its parliamentary model of government for itself?

I don't remember if I mentioned this, but I read a book where the US brought Canada into the fold. Quebec had seceded, there was a massive energy crisis and other factors encouraged the other nine provinces to join once the Rep. of Quebec was established.

But I doubt, if Canada were physically split up, that would happen. After all, Pakistan, if you remember correctly, was in two pieces for a while (what is called Bangladesh was originally East Pakistan).

Edited May 18, 2018 by JamesHackerMP

[taxme]

1 hour ago, JamesHackerMP said:

"Canadian peso" LOL. (It would certainly solve the matter of whether to remove MacDonald from whichever note he's on now, right?)

Still, would any Canadian province ever consent to join the United States? Even if the U.S. allowed that province (or new state) to keep its parliamentary model of government for itself?

I don't remember if I mentioned this, but I read a book where the US brought Canada into the fold. Quebec had seceded, there was a massive energy crisis and other factors encouraged the other nine provinces to join once the Rep. of Quebec was established.

But I doubt, if Canada were physically split up, that would happen. After all, Pakistan, if you remember correctly, was in two pieces for a while (what is called Bangladesh was originally East Pakistan).

I wonder what would happen if America offered every Canadian(not the illegals or the ones who are not Canadian citizen's yet)a check for one million American dollars tax free each to join America, I wonder what the results would be? If I figured it out correctly it would cost the American government give or take 1,155,000,000 dollars. A  few dozen drops in the bucket for America. America could then have all the resources of Canada to move in on and call their own. Of course ex Canadians would benefit also from the take over as they are now Americans also. No more borders to have to worry about anymore.  Fantastic.  Just asking.   

[JamesHackerMP]

LOL.

What resources are those?

[August1991]

On 4/3/2016 at 4:14 PM, taxme said:

Quebec does very well staying in Canada. Why leave? ...

We could do better, as Norwegians do outside of Europe.

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With some 7 billion people in the world, what is this idea of "Europe" or "America"? 

Edited May 24, 2018 by August1991

[taxme]

On 5/23/2018 at 9:32 PM, August1991 said:

We could do better, as Norwegians do outside of Europe.

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With some 7 billion people in the world, what is this idea of "Europe" or "America"? 

I guess the reason why Quebec has not left yet is because they probably know that they cannot make it on their own or they are just too afraid to take the chance on leaving. I wish that they would so I would not have to keep paying my and share of the taxes to make everything bilingual in this country. Labeling everything in both languages costs money and not to forget the cost of bilingualism for the rest of Canada. We could save hundreds of millions of our tax dollars every year and it would be a lot better to spend that money lost on infrastructure or other needed requirements. Bilingualism has cost the rest of the country billions of tax dollars for decades now and for what? So Quebec could declare itself unilingual french speaking only. Some joke that was played on the rest of English Canada. 

[taxme]

On 5/18/2018 at 12:43 AM, JamesHackerMP said:

LOL.

What resources are those?

The Americans sure do need and want our water for one and they could get all their illegal refugees that entered Canada illegally back. LOL. 

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, taxme said:

The Americans sure do need and want our water for one and they could get all their illegal refugees that entered Canada illegally back. LOL. 

 

If American wanted Canada's water, it would just buy it...you guys would sell any natural resource for a quick buck.

As for illegals, the U.S. already has over 100,000 from Canada...they won't go home.

[taxme]

30 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

If American wanted Canada's water, it would just buy it...you guys would sell any natural resource for a quick buck.

As for illegals, the U.S. already has over 100,000 from Canada...they won't go home.

Our water resources is one thing America would not need to buy from Canada. America would own our water plus so many other resources. No more border hassles and having to pay any kinds of tariffs or taxes or however things are done when bringing in a resource from another country. The selling of resources in Canada and America is all about making a buck. I am all about the buck too, aren't you?   

 

But look at the bright side. You can then have all the ones that came here illegally from America back into your arms. Then Americans can help once again to pay for their well being also and not just Canadians anymore. Originally they were once yours anyway, right? I don't know what the number of illegal Canadians are living in America and I really do not care. That is your problem. Kick them out and send them back to Canada when you catch them. Most of them are probably illegals anyway that came from some third world country who entered Canada legally or illegally and are now hiding in America. You can keep them because they never did want to be Canadian anyway. America was their real destination. Canada just became a stop off point for them. 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

... That is your problem. Kick them out and send them back to Canada when you catch them. Most of them are probably illegals anyway that came from some third world country who entered Canada legally or illegally and are now hiding in America. You can keep them because they never did want to be Canadian anyway. America was their real destination. Canada just became a stop off point for them. 

 

Agreed...the Canadian illegals are a U.S. problem...and the illegals crossing into Canada from the U.S. are Canada's problem.   Maybe ask your PM to stop inviting illegals from around the world might help.

Most of our Canadian illegals are visa overstays...for whatever reason...they just won't go home.  They want access to American jobs, lower cost of living, and better weather.

[taxme]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...the Canadian illegals are a U.S. problem...and the illegals crossing into Canada from the U.S. are Canada's problem.   Maybe ask your PM to stop inviting illegals from around the world might help.

Most of our Canadian illegals are visa overstays...for whatever reason...they just won't go home.  They want access to American jobs, lower cost of living, and better weather.

"Ask that fool of a prime mistake"? The wrecking ball is the reason and the one responsible for all this illegal immigration going on. Like the fool always says? "diversity is our strength". 

Indeed you do have the nice weather in the winter time. I can understand why they do not want to come home. Probably 10% of Canada's population empties out in the winter time to some warm climate. When we became two separate countries you got the better deal. And lucky you that you do not have our prime mistake as your leader. 

[Jimwd]

Canadians rank in the top three nations in the world for an educated citizenry . America doesn’t make the top 10. I don’t know how it would be possible.

[Jimwd]

On 4/3/2016 at 5:26 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

How did another typical domestic "51st state" threat by/for Canadians turn into an invasion by the United States ?

The United States has bigger things to worry about than the constant regional/separation squabbling in Canada that always includes tantrums about "joining the U.S.".

Puerto Rico is way ahead of Canada for any new state scenario anyway...it would be "51st".

We would have to lower our collective iq substantially to join America.

[JamesHackerMP]

53 minutes ago, Jimwd said:

We would have to lower our collective iq substantially to join America.

No need to troll, now...

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, JamesHackerMP said:

No need to troll, now...

 

Indeed, but no worries, as American universities dominate world rankings...again:

 

http://cwur.org/2018-19.php