Rue Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 LOL. Didn't even read the headline, did you, champ? Didn't even read what you cut and pasted, either. This is about torture and mistreatment of Palestinians BY the Palestinian Authority. No Jews involved at all! You'll need to go hunt up another story to replace it. Lol, stop it. I blew out a kidney laughing. Quote
jacee Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) So which countries are civilized, Are you aware that Canada incarcerates children, the results are the same. loss of freedom of movement.... Do we get a free pass..... Does Israel incarcerate Israeli children?Or just Palestinian children ... for political 'crimes'? Edit to add ... Here's the answer: 24 APRIL 2016 The number of Palestinian children held in Israeli prisons has soared over the past six months Israeli minors under 14 are not given prison sentences, but a separate military law allows for Palestinians as young as 12 to be sent to jail. . Edited April 25, 2016 by jacee Quote
Army Guy Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Did you read the source that Big guy submitted, does that sound like a political crime to you.....D, arrested on February 9 near the illegal Israeli settlement of Karmei Tzur, was convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter and illegal possession of a knife in a plea bargain by Israel's military court days after her detention. She was sentenced to 4.5 months in Israeli military prison, and completed more than half of her sentence. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Big Guy Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Posted April 25, 2016 Did you read the source that Big guy submitted, does that sound like a political crime to you..... D, arrested on February 9 near the illegal Israeli settlement of Karmei Tzur, was convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter and illegal possession of a knife in a plea bargain by Israel's military court days after her detention. She was sentenced to 4.5 months in Israeli military prison, and completed more than half of her sentence. That may be correct. But you give me an incarcerated 12 year old girl who is allowed no contact with her parents for months and I will get her to plea bargain to killing Jimmy Hoffa. You can't be serious? A 12 year old, held in solitary jail with interrogation by Israeli terrorist forces? I am surprised they didn't get her to admit the 9/11 plot in the USA. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 One must ask the question: why is Israel arresting children in the first place? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Plus....I can assure you that if children were lobbing rocks from slings at cars on the 401, the Po-Po will be doin' some arrestin'.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Army Guy Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 So let me get this straight, she was convicted of attempted man slaughter in a active conflict zone.....and had on her procession a knife....I'd say the girl is lucky to be alive....Attempted man slaughter is a serious crime, she lucky the soldiers that arrested her had a lot of restraint, one does not get charged with this crime unless an attempt was made right.....she was lucky not to have been shoot.....These guys are soldiers they take the simple things like staying alive very serious.....Yes I get it she was 12 years old.....But when she is trying to take a life age means nothing, she is a threat, but you don't get that.....you refuse to see that part of it....so they roughed her up, most likely during the take down.......you know when they took the knife off of her.....Yes she was questioned, would you not want to know who put her up to it......so she was scared at the time.....but not scared enough to stop her from caring out an attempted man slaughter..... Sounds like her prison time was full of bad things......like singing songs, visits from relatives....she was not put in solitary, but with other kids her own age....I had an Arabic teacher whom I liked a lot. There were also aunt Dunya and aunt Yasmine, who were sweet, took care of me and bought me chocolate. I also learned hand embroidery. I made my mother a book that had "sweetest mom" on it in embroidery. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DogOnPorch Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 If one recalls movies such as 'Blood Diamonds', the kiddies are the scary ones when armed and set to kill... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Did you read the source that Big guy submitted, does that sound like a political crime to you..... D, arrested on February 9 near the illegal Israeli settlement of Karmei Tzur, was convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter and illegal possession of a knife in a plea bargain by Israel's military court days after her detention. She was sentenced to 4.5 months in Israeli military prison, and completed more than half of her sentence. She didn't "attempt" anything.She was found to have a knife on her. End of story. Statehood for Palestine would solve the problems. But Israel wants Palestinian territory without the Palestinians in it. . Edited April 25, 2016 by jacee Quote
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Time to dump Israel and look to Iran as Canada's associate in the Middle East. Do you have a coherent explanation as to why we ought to do that when Iran's human rights record is far and away worse than Israel's? I mean, you keep posting these lamentations about the minor human rights abuses you reckon the Jews are up to, but then say we should befriend Iran. So clearly you don't really care about human rights violations. It wouldn't be because Israel is Jewish and Iran hates Jews, would it? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Israel aspires to be like that? No, but that behaviour clearly doesn't bother him - or you. How about you 'compare and contrast' Israel's detention of Palestinian CHILDREN to international standards of CIVILIZED behaviour!! Please provide a list of "civilized" countries which are at war with their neighbors and subjected to nearly daily terrorist attacks which treat people accused of terrorism better than Israel. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 They're not civilized if they're incarcerating children. Israel does not get a free pass anymore. . The US and UK incarcerate children. How about you pick on them? Oh wait... they're not Jews... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 You can't be serious? A 12 year old, held in solitary jail with interrogation by Israeli terrorist forces? I am surprised they didn't get her to admit the 9/11 plot in the USA. Of course he's serious. We happily torture 15 year old Canadian men, why should a 12 year old woman be given a break from prison? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jacee Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) No, but that behaviour clearly doesn't bother him - or you.The thread topic is Israel.Please provide a list of "civilized" countries which are at war with their neighbors and subjected to nearly daily terrorist attacks which treat people accused of terrorism better than Israel.Statehood for Palestine would solve that.But Israel wants the territory ... minus the people. . Edited April 25, 2016 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 The US and UK incarcerate children. How about you pick on them? Oh wait... they're not Jews... A lot of them are. A lot of Canadians are too. And a lot of them are disgusted with Israel's crimes against Palestinians too, and would like to see statehood for Palestine and the end of Israel's aggression. . Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Meh...Israel has actually shown a great deal of restraint compared to other nations that don't face such existential threats. If Israel wanted to commit "war crimes", it could do so with far more zeal. Sorry...no war crimes....just more of the usual rhetoric. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) The biggest 'war crime' remains the Arab's starting of this conflict by attacking Israel. They had their 'nation' in the bag despite being led by an escaped SS man....but the Mufti wanted to finish the job he and Eichmann had started in Europe. Continuous chicanery on the part of the Arabs since 1948 has ensured no peace will be forthcoming in the foreseeable future. Edited April 26, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) She didn't "attempt" anything. She was found to have a knife on her. End of story. Statehood for Palestine would solve the problems. But Israel wants Palestinian territory without the Palestinians in it. . You do not know that. You assume she is carrying a knife for benevolent reasons. What fantasy world do you live in Jacee? Children with knives are being used as terrorist weapons/ No Jaceee, people on the West Bank don't carry knives to cut their meet. Grow up. This girl is lucky she did not get a bullet between the eyes. That is exactly what Hamas and the PA want to incite more attacks. You of course won't acknowledge lat alone condemn using children as tarrorists. Not you. Your sole refrain is the usual position of yours, get rid of Israel and turn it into a Sharia law state. Been there done that. You keep denying and apologizing for these "children". They are not children. The fact you may live in a sheltered world does not mean they do and get this straight, I know and teach numerous Muslim students who reject terrorism so save your bias terrorism has never by itself created any nation, all its done is kill and reinforce hatred. Edited April 26, 2016 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Meh...Israel has actually shown a great deal of restraint compared to other nations that don't face such existential threats. If Israel wanted to commit "war crimes", it could do so with far more zeal. Sorry...no war crimes....just more of the usual rhetoric. Hell in Canada now police can't "profile". If they see people of visible minority status and talk to them they are facing full dismissal of any charges they lay. Lol I am sure Jaycee wants that in Jerusalem and on the West Bank and this people should walk around with concealed weapons. Our federal government not provinces pass criminal law and yes its illegal for anyone to carry a concealed weapon. Gee I can't imagine why. Edited April 26, 2016 by Rue Quote
Big Guy Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Posted April 26, 2016 Israel continues to try to squeeze Palestinians off their land and out of that open prison of the West Bank.http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/waiting-3g-palestinians-call-connections-160426133858205.html What the rest of the world accepts as the right to communication, the Israelis continue to try to keep Palestinians in the dark and certainly curtail their ability to inform the rest of the world what atrocities the Israelis are apply daily. When is the West going to wake up to the fact, that it is time that this rogue nation be made accountable, for its inhuman actions? Time for Canada to wash its hands of any association with a country in the process of committing genocide! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Posted April 27, 2016 The UN Security Council has rejected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's claim that the annexed Golan Heights in Syria would "for ever" remain under Israeli control. The 15-member council agreed on Tuesday that the status of the Golan, which Israel seized from Syria in 1967, "remains unchanged", Chinese Ambassador Liu Jieyi, who holds this month's council presidency said http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/rejects-israel-claim-syria-golan-heights-160426195853040.html I assume and hope that Canada will join the UN in condemning this rogue nation of Israel and divest any Canadian involvement in it. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Syria...if such a thing will exist in the future...needs to renege on the Khartoum Agreement (as do the Palestinian Muslim Arabs)...before Israel would entertain the idea of allowing their enemies to occupy the Golan. Its sole value to the Arabs is its use as an artillery platform to shell deep into Israel. Edited April 27, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 They're not civilized if they're incarcerating children. Israel does not get a free pass anymore. . Leave the killer alone. He's not as bad as the serial killer. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Army Guy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 Israel continues to try to squeeze Palestinians off their land and out of that open prison of the West Bank. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/waiting-3g-palestinians-call-connections-160426133858205.html What the rest of the world accepts as the right to communication, the Israelis continue to try to keep Palestinians in the dark and certainly curtail their ability to inform the rest of the world what atrocities the Israelis are apply daily. When is the West going to wake up to the fact, that it is time that this rogue nation be made accountable, for its inhuman actions? Time for Canada to wash its hands of any association with a country in the process of committing genocide! Your really reaching here.....NO 3 G network, the article says they do have communications but they are slow.....Defiantly a UN matter that should be looked into right away....I can not imagine a world without 4 G networks, this is a game changer....I can't wait to see whats next Big dog..... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Rue Posted April 27, 2016 Report Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) I d0n't see Jacee talking about the two terrorists today killed trying to engage in kife attacks. Of course not. None of these anti Israelis are allowed to acknowledge it. Their scripts are canned and tightly controlled. So here's a direct message to the boys in Iran: you will have to do better then send little girls to right your battles. Hey if you need that uncoded and more direct let let me know. Edited April 27, 2016 by Rue Quote
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