Still Going to Buy the F-35, Really?

[Smallc]

10 minutes ago, blueblood said:

I think the states has implied the free ride might be over for some.  They can say no...

I think that anyone who fell for Trumps act is in for a tough 4 years.  

[blueblood]

Just now, Smallc said:

I think that anyone who fell for Trumps act is in for a tough 4 years.  

Well a bunch of people fell for trudeaus act and are taking their bath.  

Theres some stuff I agree with trump on and some stuff I don't.  He isn't even president yet, id wait a year to see how he's doing.  I will say the business channel talking heads are very bullish on the us economy.

[Smallc]

18 minutes ago, blueblood said:

Well a bunch of people fell for trudeaus act and are taking their bath.  

Really?  Based on the polls it seems that Trudeau is performing pretty much exactly the way people expected him to.  I know I'm one of those people.  There's been very little to complain about.

[blueblood]

Just now, Smallc said:

Really?  Based on the polls it seems that Trudeau is performing pretty much exactly the way people expected him to.  I know I'm one of those people.  There's been very little to complain about.

People can like him and still take their bath.  Ask Obama...

i complain about the crash in the dollar, the huge debt after the deficit was slayed, and GDP growth at a crawl.  How much is being on the UN Security Council worth?

[Smallc]

1 hour ago, blueblood said:

People can like him and still take their bath.  Ask Obama...

i complain about the crash in the dollar, the huge debt after the deficit was slayed, and GDP growth at a crawl.

 I call linking such things to Trudeau revisionist history with a lack of perspective thrown in.

[Smallc]

1 hour ago, blueblood said:

People can like him and still take their bath.  Ask Obama...

Oh, and what about Obama?

He seemed to turn out pretty well in the end, given the current economy.

[blueblood]

9 hours ago, Smallc said:

Oh, and what about Obama?

He seemed to turn out pretty well in the end, given the current economy.

His economy was at rock bottom and spent pretty near a trillion dollars for anemic growth and low job participation rate.  Hillary ran on his legacy and the dems stayed home on Election Day.

 

as for Trudeau he is spending a pile of money trying to buy a seat at the un and "social infrastructure" whatever the hell that is and a carbon tax which will make us extremely uncompetitive.  The Aussies dumped their carbon tax...

[Smallc]

3 minutes ago, blueblood said:

His economy was at rock bottom and spent pretty near a trillion dollars for anemic growth and low job participation rate.  Hillary ran on his legacy and the dems stayed home on Election Day.

Was being the operative word.  It isn't now.  And no, democrats didn't stay home.  Hillary got as many votes as Obama did in 2012.

3 minutes ago, blueblood said:

as for Trudeau he is spending a pile of money trying to buy a seat at the un and "social infrastructure" whatever the hell that is and a carbon tax which will make us extremely uncompetitive.  The Aussies dumped their carbon tax...

Most of the money Trudeau has spent has been at home.  He's increased spending by about $20B, meaning that the budget was not balanced this year.  Social infrastructure is things like hospitals, jails, schools, and social services agencies. 

Good for Australia - most of the world hasn't, and won't.

[blueblood]

42 minutes ago, Smallc said:

Was being the operative word.  It isn't now.  And no, democrats didn't stay home.  Hillary got as many votes as Obama did in 2012.

Most of the money Trudeau has spent has been at home.  He's increased spending by about $20B, meaning that the budget was not balanced this year.  Social infrastructure is things like hospitals, jails, schools, and social services agencies. 

Good for Australia - most of the world hasn't, and won't.

The USA still has low job participation and a lot of money offshore.  Not running at peak efficiency.  Yes Trudeau has spent on the CBC, and other waste.  Don't see much for expanded infrastructure.  "Social infrastructure" is just a buzzword for expanded government spending which hasn't amounted to anything.

the Aussies dumped their carbon tax and the USA is doing nothing on carbon pricing.  Have fun trying to expand an economy where it's going to be cheaper to do business down south.

[Rue]

On 12/29/2016 at 7:35 PM, Smallc said:

I'm sorry, but you're wrong:

http://www.budget.gc.ca/fes-eea/2016/docs/statement-enonce/anx-en.html#Toc465443741

Table A1.3

The Conservatives don't have a good history of balancing budgets at the Federal level anyway.

Fair is fair. Your point is accurate. Other than the mean ogre Mike (let them eat cake) Harris in Ontario balanced budgets

in most provinces and at the fed level have never been achieved. There was a lot of fiction involved with Chretien and Harper in claiming balanced budgets.

That said Trump gave the F35 its kiss of death and is talking Super Hornet.

Y'all ask me lets now seriously talk Gryphen before we blow a wad on F18's incompatible with the old F18's.

 

Edited December 31, 2016 by Rue

[?Impact]

17 hours ago, Rue said:

That said Trump gave the F35 its kiss of death and is talking Super Hornet.

I thought that was just his way of balancing out his Air Force one twits

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada has neither F-35s or Super Hornets....USA has plenty of both.

[Omni]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Canada has neither F-35s or Super Hornets....USA has plenty of both.

Keep the 35's but let us know whenever you get those Hornets airworthy again.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Omni said:

Keep the 35's but let us know whenever you get those Hornets airworthy again.

 

No...Canada can't afford either of them.   Try the used car lots in Buffalo.

[?Impact]

3 minutes ago, Omni said:

Keep the 35's but let us know whenever you get those Hornets airworthy again.

I thought the problem with the Hornets was they were not groundworthy. The canopy accidentally discharged while being serviced by ground crew.

[Omni]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

No...Canada can't afford either of them.   Try the used car lots in Buffalo.

Nobody in their right mind can afford the 35, but we're ready for the Hornets, again, when they are allowed to fly again.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Omni said:

Nobody in their right mind can afford the 35, but we're ready for the Hornets, again, when they are allowed to fly again.

Canadian pilots do not deserve the best, anyways.

 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Omni said:

Nobody in their right mind can afford the 35, but we're ready for the Hornets, again, when they are allowed to fly again.

 

Agreed.....Canada can't afford either of these aircraft.   That's why it doesn't have any.

[Omni]

1 minute ago, ?Impact said:

I thought the problem with the Hornets was they were not groundworthy. The canopy accidentally discharged while being serviced by ground crew.

Hard to get them in the air when they're unsafe to get into to start with.

[Omni]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed.....Canada can't afford either of these aircraft.   That's why it doesn't have any.

We'll forward the check when you can provide the aircraft.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Omni said:

We'll forward the check when you can provide the aircraft.

 

The only thing being forwarded by Canada are pleas to keep F-35 JSF Program jobs.

[DogOnPorch]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The only thing being forwarded by Canada are pleas to keep F-35 JSF Program jobs.

I see the USS America has a 12 plane F-35 squadron now on-board. It sure must save wear n' tear on the ol' deck...no wires or catapults needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwoGkDGDtS8

[Omni]

5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

I see the USS America has a 12 plane F-35 squadron now on-board. It sure must save wear n' tear on the ol' deck...no wires or catapults needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwoGkDGDtS8

Just don't use the VTOL version or you'll burn a hole in the deck.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Omni said:

Just don't use the VTOL version or you'll burn a hole in the deck.

Clearly it doesn't as the video show them doing just that.

[Omni]

13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

The only thing being forwarded by Canada are pleas to keep F-35 JSF Program jobs.

Oh we'll do the work you want done, we just don't want the airplane. When will the 18's be ready?