Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

Omni · December 18, 2016

9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Study some more history....including FDR's brand of fascism. Unlike in Europe, FDR was very successful with internments, confiscation, state controlled industry, racism, and alleged war crimes. Canadians did not FEAR this brand of fascism because Canada was doing it as well and the Empire needed it.

Apparently your "empire" still thinks it needs it.

bush_cheney2004 · December 18, 2016

4 minutes ago, Omni said:

Apparently your "empire" still thinks it needs it.

As does yours.....

Omni · December 18, 2016

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

As does yours.....

Don't think we'll be voting in a Trump anytime soon.

bush_cheney2004 · December 18, 2016

Just now, Omni said:

Don't think we'll be voting in a Trump anytime soon.

Harper came way before Trump.....

Omni · December 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Harper came way before Trump.....

He wasn't my favourite but he was miles ahead of Trump. He didn't brag about groping women for instance.

bush_cheney2004 · December 18, 2016

Just now, Omni said:

He wasn't my favourite but he was miles ahead of Trump. He didn't brag about groping women for instance.

Yes...Canadians FEARed him too...for 9 years. Kept voting that way it was so bad ! Trump should be so lucky....

Omni · December 18, 2016

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Yes...Canadians FEARed him too...for 9 years. Kept voting that way it was so bad ! Trump should be so lucky....

We didn't fear him, we just didn't like him, so we voted his ass out. So just as we were getting smart it seems Americans were getting less than smart. You voted him in, now you gotta live with him. My sympathies.

bush_cheney2004 · December 18, 2016

Just now, Omni said:

We didn't fear him, we just didn't like him, so we voted his ass out. So just as we were getting smart it seems Americans were getting less than smart. You voted him in, now you gotta live with him. My sympathies.

Your concerns are irrelevant. I didn't vote him in. Go for the last word in three...two...one....

Omni · December 18, 2016

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Your concerns are irrelevant. I didn't vote him in. Go for the last word in three...two...one....

Apparently somebody voted for him.

Canadianjim · December 18, 2016

47 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Nope....Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath in a federal court (perjury), and obstruction of justice. Yep about consensual sex. He lied about it. OMG God., A guy lied about consensual sex because some perverts who hunted down a blues dress to sniff it and asks questions. And their pedophile (2nd in line to the presidency.)over saw the impeachment. HINT.... If you don't think child molestation rates worse than lying about consensual sex... stay away from kids.

Canadianjim · December 20, 2016

Canadians despise Trump . Hardly call that fear. If Trump were to threaten Canada far more Americans would support Canada than Trump as illustrated by the vote.

Canadianjim · December 20, 2016

On 2016-02-24 at 0:55 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Just another election cycle in the USA, but this time there is a new wrinkle. Despite claims that American voters are supporting Trump (or Sanders) out of fear instead of anger and disillusionment, polling results "north of the border" suggest that the true source of any such "fear" actually comes from Canada.

Nearly two-in-three of Canadian voters surveyed — 65 percent — said they feared the very prospect of Donald Trump getting elected president of the United States, while 23 percent said they did not. The survey, conducted by Canadian polling firm Leger and sponsored by the newspapers Le Journal de Montréal and Le Devoir, also found majority support for Hillary Clinton becoming the 45th president.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/does-canada-like-trump-219017

So why do polled Canadians, and by extension many other Canadians, FEAR Donald Trump's election campaign and possible U.S. term as president ?

What are the reasons for such FEAR compared to other candidates and previous presidents ?

Is the FEAR rational ?

What do fearful Canadians think a President Trump means to them or their lives across the border ?

Why are they so afraid ?

Ask Poland what happens when fascists were on their borders. PSST .. we know you . There will be no surprise for us... but for you...mmmmm well .......

cannuck · December 20, 2016

I could have cared one way or another about Trump - until I saw how he got under the media and left-winger's skin. Now I love him. While he is not even looking at the biggest underlying problems in the US, at least he is putting the predatory trading nations on notice that their free ride on the backs of American consumers is coming to an end. About time. What DOES worry me is that Obama ran up more debt than the rest of all US Presidents combined, and Trump seems to want to carry on the drunken sailor spending habits.

What the election demonstrated is the the US electoral system represents its style of democracy, and even the Democrats can't seem to live with that. Reality TV has never been better.

Michael Hardner · December 20, 2016

9 minutes ago, cannuck said:

What DOES worry me is that Obama ran up more debt than the rest of all US Presidents combined, and Trump seems to want to carry on the drunken sailor spending habits.

Quoting Argus from another thread...

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And the economic state the US found itself in back when Obama was elected was clearly the fault of the Bush administration, which appointed the people who were ideologically unsuitable to act as any sorts of watchdogs on Wall Street.

cannuck · December 20, 2016

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Quoting Argus from another thread...

Yes, the Uniparty is definitely able to cede its power to Goldman Sucks regardless of who they have in the Whitehouse. Only Bernie Sanders had the sense to realize that. Not sure how Trump will deal with this (if at all) since he is not a wealth creator, just another wealth re-distributor.

eyeball · December 21, 2016

On 20/12/2016 at 4:48 AM, cannuck said:

I could have cared one way or another about Trump - until I saw how he got under the media and left-winger's skin. Now I love him. While he is not even looking at the biggest underlying problems in the US, at least he is putting the predatory trading nations on notice that their free ride on the backs of American consumers is coming to an end.

I recall how expressing concern about predatory trading nations used to get up right-wingers noses and inspire them to sneer down those same noses at domestic slackers who were unwilling to work as cheaply as slaves.

I'm pretty sure the predators are rolling on their floors and laughing their asses off.

Edited December 24, 2016 by eyeball

Canadianjim · December 24, 2016

On 2016-02-24 at 5:05 PM, Shady said:

I know who's really afraid though.... China!

http://freebeacon.com/politics/china-warns-u-s-after-trump-wins-nevada-caucus/

They know they're time for currency manipulation and trade cheating is coming to an end.

You bought the propaganda huh?

Michael Hardner · January 6, 2018

More predictions:

On 2/27/2016 at 6:34 PM, taxme said:

Maybe it doesn't make sense to you, but to many Americans, it makes lot a sense to them as to what Trump says he is going to do. If he says he will make Mexico build and pay for the wall, he means it. And if Mexico says no, well Mexico may be in deep doo-doo for not listening to the Donald.

Here's how this is going down as of right now:

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Trump asks for $33B for border, including $18B for wall

So the US is going to pay $18B for Trump's wall and he will allow the DACA people to stay.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/border-security-billions-trump-wall/index.html

Michael Hardner · January 6, 2018

Also this:

On 2/20/2016 at 4:33 AM, taxme said:

But Donald has said that if he becomes President he will build a wall along Mexico to stop the flow of illegal aliens. And I believe that he will. And he has said that he will make the Mexican government pay for it. At least Trump has taken on the immigration question that has been on the minds of many Americans for decades. The rest are too afraid to touch the immigration subject. And our politicians here in Canada are no better. They run.

My question is whether a huge broken promise matters to people.

bush_cheney2004 · January 6, 2018

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

My question is whether a huge broken promise matters to people.

Does it matter in Canada, i.e. Trudeau's "promises" ?

By any measure, Trump has certainly advocated for improvements and expansion of the existing wall. People can certainly see that.

Linking DACA to measures that discourage further illegal immigration is somewhat logical.

Edited January 6, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

Michael Hardner · January 6, 2018

21 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

1. Does it matter in Canada, i.e. Trudeau's "promises" ?

2. By any measure, Trump has certainly advocated for improvements and expansion of the existing wall. People can certainly see that.

3. Linking DACA to measures that discourage further illegal immigration is somewhat logical.

1. It 'matters' in both countries, however both JT and the US president have blind devotees. I do like to see how they twist when their boy lets them down.

2. He is negotiating to a middle ground. If it means the DACA people can stay I'm all for it. But I never thought the wall would be build exactly as promised. Some zealots did.

3. Sure.

bush_cheney2004 · January 6, 2018

33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. It 'matters' in both countries, however both JT and the US president have blind devotees. I do like to see how they twist when their boy lets them down.

2. He is negotiating to a middle ground. If it means the DACA people can stay I'm all for it. But I never thought the wall would be build exactly as promised. Some zealots did.

President Trump doesn't have the power to deport ALL illegals, which is my hard line position...no exceptions. He correctly booted DACA back to Congress where it belongs. "Blind devotees" were pleased by recently fleeing illegals (going to Canada)...crude...but satisfying.

Virtual and physical border walls preceded Trump by many administrations...as has illegal immigration. Seems that foreign nationals just can't help themselves from going to the "evil" United States, legally and illegally.

Edited January 6, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

Michael Hardner · January 6, 2018

57 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Virtual and physical border walls preceded Trump by many administrations...as has illegal immigration. Seems that foreign nationals just can't help themselves from going to the "evil" United States, legally and illegally.

Who would call the US 'evil' and still go there ? Seems rather hypocritical.

bush_cheney2004 · January 6, 2018

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

Who would call the US 'evil' and still go there ? Seems rather hypocritical.

...not after they have been jailed and deported five times.

taxme · January 6, 2018

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

More predictions:

Here's how this is going down as of right now:

So the US is going to pay $18B for Trump's wall and he will allow the DACA people to stay.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/border-security-billions-trump-wall/index.html

Hey, I think that Trump will make Mexico pay in some way. What that could be is anyone's guess. I guess that by building the wall will no doubt stop the flow of Mexicans from entering America illegally, and then when that happens there will be fewer Mexicans in America that will be able to send money back to Mexico. That money will now stay in America and maybe will now help to go towards paying for the wall. Look at all the tax dollars that would be saved by not having to waste any more time trying to round up all those Mexican illegals and deporting them. All that money saved could now go towards building the wall. All that money now not going to Mexico will now have to be found somewhere else by the Mexican government.

I have mixed feelings about DACA. I kind of feel sorry for them in some way that they may not be allowed to stay in America but then on the other hand they did enter America illegally, and they should be sent back. I am going to leave it up to Trump as to what happens to the DACA immigrants. Whatever Trump does is a go for me.

Edited January 6, 2018 by taxme