Donald vs Hillary

Derek 2.0 · November 1, 2016

11 hours ago, Wilber said:

This is the system that allows.......

......People to spend their money as they wish....

Derek 2.0 · November 1, 2016

11 hours ago, ?Impact said:

So you think potential terrorists on the no-fly list should have the right to buy as many AK-15`s and rounds of ammunition they can afford?

Yes, because the secretive "no-fly list" is rife with errors, and compels "potential terrorists" such as little old ladies, dozens of small children, a retired General from the Air National Guard (that is certified by the FAA to carry a firearm well piloting an airliner), Kat Stevens, several CNN and FOX reporters, a baseball scout for the Cubs and the late Senator Ted Kennedy.......

Argus · November 1, 2016

13 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:

The Democrats don't have a leg to stand on, as they would have to prove Comey disclosed the information on the renewed investigation for political reasons.....

No, they actually wouldn't.

Wilber · November 1, 2016

Comey made his announcement before the FBI even had a warrant to search the computer. If that is the way US law enforcement works, they can keep it.

Rue · November 1, 2016

I moved my response over to the other thread started on Abedin.

Edited November 1, 2016 by Rue

Derek 2.0 · November 2, 2016

11 hours ago, Argus said:

No, they actually wouldn't.

Ahh yeah.......you know, jurisprudence and all the ordained rights found within a democratic society. :rolleyes:

Derek 2.0 · November 2, 2016

10 hours ago, Wilber said:

If that is the way US law enforcement works, they can keep it.

And Canadian law enforcement and law enforcement in any other Western society.......the FBI obtained the computers through their investigation of Weiner sending sexual messages to a minor across State lines, and found said emails through said investigation. :rolleyes:

Derek 2.0 · November 2, 2016

Another interesting release today by the FBI

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At the time of the pardon, Rich was an international fugitive who had fled to Switzerland. His ex-wife had donated to the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton Presidential Library and Hillary Clinton's New York Senate campaign, raising suspicion about the pardon. The federal investigation was closed in 2005 without charges, and Rich died in 2013.

Hmmmm........and onto the Clinton Foundation and the obstruction by the DoJ:

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for over a year, the FBI has been investigating the Clinton Foundation for potential financial crimes and influence peddling is, as Rich Lowry said Monday, a blockbuster. As I argued over the weekend, the manner in which the State Department was put in the service of the Foundation during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary is shocking. It is suggestive of a pattern of pay-to-play bribery, the monetizing of political influence, fraud, and obstruction of justice that the Justice Department should be investigating as a possible RICO conspiracy under the federal anti-racketeering laws.

If she wins, between the emails and the Clinton Foundation, we could be looking at Watergate on steroids....

bush_cheney2004 · November 2, 2016

Yeah....Trump may be a sleazy blowhard, but the Clintons make him look like a virtuous boy scout in comparison because of the never ending corruption while in elected office.

Argus · November 2, 2016

8 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:

Another interesting release today by the FBI

Just more innuendo, which is all you Trumpites have.

8 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:

Hmmmm........and onto the Clinton Foundation and the obstruction by the DoJ:

Again, just innuendo. No one can point to anything the State Department actually did to accommodate any donors to the Clinton's charitable foundation. On the other hand, Trump's so-called foundation seems to be designed to have other people donate money so he can spend it on himself.

Argus · November 2, 2016

8 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Yeah....Trump may be a sleazy blowhard, but the Clintons make him look like a virtuous boy scout in comparison because of the never ending corruption while in elected office.

None of which you can show any evidence of, of course.

Argus · November 2, 2016

I'm wondering how far Putin will go in supporting his lap dog Trump. If you look at Putin's history, he has no moral qualms about killing a lot of innocent people to get his way. A lot of observers believe his intelligence service planted the apartment bombs which killed so many people in Moscow, and which he then used as justification to start the second Chechen war. Might we see something similar in the US, just before the election, designed to sow fear and have people running to a 'strong man' to protect them? If so, where would they put it, New York, or one of the 'battleground' states?

kimmy · November 2, 2016

And yet, new FBI leaks show that Comey fought tooth and nail to keep the FBI from issuing any statements regarding Trump campaign connections with Russia, or naming Russia as the source of the DNC hacks, because it would be "too political".

-k

Wilber · November 2, 2016

9 hours ago, Derek 2.0 said:

And Canadian law enforcement and law enforcement in any other Western society.......the FBI obtained the computers through their investigation of Weiner sending sexual messages to a minor across State lines, and found said emails through said investigation.

Comey inserted himself into this election with his announcement after the first investigation. Crown or a Canadian police force would have simply said, our investigation did not find evidence that would support laying a charge. Period. Instead, Comey went on to spout personal opinions, basically saying, I don't have enough to take to a prosecutor so I am going to be one myself behind this microphone. Hey man, you are a cop, not FOX News or MSNBC. Have a little self respect.

Argus · November 2, 2016

1 hour ago, kimmy said:

And yet, new FBI leaks show that Comey fought tooth and nail to keep the FBI from issuing any statements regarding Trump campaign connections with Russia, or naming Russia as the source of the DNC hacks, because it would be "too political".

-k

Maybe he has decided Clinton is unlikely to re-appoint him so he's going to help Trump in hopes he will.

Argus · November 2, 2016

Poll out today shows Americans think Trump is more honest than Clinton. Just how dumb are Americans anyway? Wasn't Trump declared, last month, the most dishonest candidate in American political history? Doesn't every single media or independent truth and fact checker say he lies constantly about almost everything? Every single one I've read shows Trump lying at about 8-10 times the rate of Clinton. Politifact shows more than 50% of what he says is an outright lie, while if you include the 'half truths' and 'mostly false' statements that number rises to 86%. The man is a pathological liar.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Trump Becomes The Biggest Liar In US Political History By Lying Once Every 3 Minutes

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/25/trump-biggest-liar-political-history-lying-3-minutes.html

Edited November 2, 2016 by Argus

GostHacked · November 2, 2016

2 hours ago, Argus said:

I'm wondering how far Putin will go in supporting his lap dog Trump. If you look at Putin's history, he has no moral qualms about killing a lot of innocent people to get his way. A lot of observers believe his intelligence service planted the apartment bombs which killed so many people in Moscow, and which he then used as justification to start the second Chechen war. Might we see something similar in the US, just before the election, designed to sow fear and have people running to a 'strong man' to protect them? If so, where would they put it, New York, or one of the 'battleground' states?

Trump being Putin's dog is nothing more than stupid speculation. Albright also said that thousands of dead Iraqis was worth it.

GostHacked · November 2, 2016

5 minutes ago, Argus said:

Poll out today shows Americans think Trump is more honest than Clinton. Just how dumb are Americans anyway? Wasn't Trump declared, last month, the most dishonest candidate in American political history? Doesn't every single media or independent truth and fact checker say he lies constantly about almost everything? Every single one I've read shows Trump lying at about 8-10 times the rate of Clinton. Politifact shows more than 50% of what he says is an outright lie, while if you include the 'half truths' and 'mostly false' statements that number rises to 86%. The man is a pathological liar.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Trump Becomes The Biggest Liar In US Political History By Lying Once Every 3 Minutes

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/25/trump-biggest-liar-political-history-lying-3-minutes.html

And yet when I posted the video about Clinton's lying you overlooked that only to ask 'where are the facts'.

Argus · November 2, 2016

24 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

And yet when I posted the video about Clinton's lying you overlooked that only to ask 'where are the facts'.

I don't watch videos. And I've never denied Clinton sometimes lies. All politicians do. But Trump takes it to a whole new level.

bush_cheney2004 · November 2, 2016

4 hours ago, Argus said:

None of which you can show any evidence of, of course.

Voters don't need proof when their noses can smell it far away.

bush_cheney2004 · November 2, 2016

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Poll out today shows Americans think Trump is more honest than Clinton. Just how dumb are Americans anyway?

Trump is perceived as more honest because he is unfiltered, politically incorrect, and spontaneous.

Americans are so dumb that Canada and the rest of the world watches their presidential elections with extreme interest.

GostHacked · November 2, 2016

1 hour ago, Argus said:

I don't watch videos. And I've never denied Clinton sometimes lies. All politicians do. But Trump takes it to a whole new level.

Right, and next time you tell me 'where is the evidence', ...

Topaz · November 2, 2016

I'm not saying what the following link states is true, that up to you but every American voter should at least what this guy is saying and I hope the link works. Goggle steve pieczenik he's a former CIA agent under Reagan.

Wilber · November 2, 2016

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump is perceived as more honest because he is unfiltered, politically incorrect, and spontaneous.

Is that what they want as the leader of their country? Someone who is completely unfiltered? They do realize they are electing a President, not a standup comedian for an adult nightclub?

bush_cheney2004 · November 2, 2016

5 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Is that what they want as the leader of their country? Someone who is completely unfiltered? They do realize they are electing a President, not a standup comedian for an adult nightclub?

Doesn't mean they should elect a professional politician and crook. The question concerned Trump's "honesty", and he is trusted more than Clinton.