Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Nor do most want a way back. These shootings are just the cost of doing business. Murder is illegal after all. Supposedly over 55% of Americans favour more restrictive gun control laws and only 11% want less restrictive but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it happen. The NRA adamantly opposes legislation which would prevent people on FBI terrorist watch lists (including no fly) from buying firearms. As it is, if you are on one of those lists, you have a 94% chance of being approved. You can't get on an airplane but you can legally buy an AR-15 or Kalashnikov. They're screwed. Edited December 3, 2015 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Derek 2.0 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Nor do most want a way back. These shootings are just the cost of doing business. Murder is illegal after all. As are the ownership of standard capacity mags in California.....and owning non-neutered (bullet button) AR-15s..........but then, the ownership of AK-47s in France is prohibited...... Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Supposedly over 55% of Americans favour more restrictive gun control laws and only 11% want less restrictive but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it happen. The NRA adamantly opposes legislation which would prevent people on FBI terrorist watch lists (including no fly) from buying firearms. As it is, if you are on one of those lists, you have a 94% chance of being approved. You can't get on an airplane but you can legally buy an AR-15 or Kalashnikov. They're screwed. Said polls don't add up.......The NRA's "power" is derived from its membership and supporters, if the majority of Americans wanted "stricter gun control" it would happen........American politicians are elected by the American people, not the NRA. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 As are the ownership of standard capacity mags in California.....and owning non-neutered (bullet button) AR-15s..........but then, the ownership of AK-47s in France is prohibited...... ...just use a Winchester Model 94 as was done in Ottawa, Ontario just last year. Canada has very strict "gun laws" too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Without a doubt........their revolution was fought and won with 3% of the population....3% of American gun owners would equate to somewhere between 3-5 million people, larger than the World's largest army (China), comprised of not only hillbillies living in trailerhoods, but serving and retired members of the United States military (see Oathkeepers) and law enforcement (there are already countless county Sheriffs that refuse to enforce gun control) and likely receiving open support from small local Governments, but various States....... It won't happen. It's run amok. There are enough privately owned guns in the US to arm 9 out of 10 Americans, almost double the next highest country in the world. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 The guns are not going away folks....there are an average of 82 firearms deaths each day in the United States, the majority of which are suicides. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 It's run amok. There are enough privately owned guns in the US to arm 9 out of 10 Americans, almost double the next highest country in the world. Sure, and the advent of 3-D technology will make said numbers further moot.........maybe, addressing the actual problems that result in violence is the way forward......be that mental health, poverty, education etc etc..... The talk of "gun control" in the United States only results in one thing: Further gun and ammo sales. Quote
Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 The guns are not going away folks....there are an average of 82 firearms deaths each day in the United States, the majority of which are suicides. Carry on Crazy. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 ...The talk of "gun control" in the United States only results in one thing: Further gun and ammo sales. For sure....guns are inseparable from America's past, present, and future. Sales will be up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Carry on Crazy. Because there are no guns in Canada, right ? What happened to your famous "Gun Registry" ? Edited December 3, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
overthere Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Why cant concerned Americans organize a massacre event where it would really help: NRA HQ? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Why is gun control the issue here? What happened to controlling the Muslims who were carrying them yesterday? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Because there are no guns in Canada, right ? What happened to your famous "Gun Registry" ? Sure we have guns and you have three times as many per capita, almost three times as many as Iraq and almost twice as many as the next highest, Yemen. Be proud, you're number one by a long way. Carry on Crazy. Only the long gun registry is gone and i wouldn't be surprised if it reappeared one day if they can do it within a reasonable budget. Hand guns a have been restricted and registered for 80 years or so. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Sure we have guns .... Carry on.....Canada is ranked 12th in the world for guns per capita....must be a gun crazy nation, eh ? Edited December 3, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Carry on.....Canada is ranked 12th in the world for guns per capita....must be a gun crazy nation, eh ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate 174th for intentional homicide ? Can that be right ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Carry on.....Canada is ranked 12th in the world for guns per capita....must be a gun crazy nation, eh ?And yet you have three times as many guns per capita but five times as many firearms related homicides. We could certainly be doing better but you are doing a hell of a lot worse. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 And yet you have three times as many guns per capita but five times as many firearms related homicides. We could certainly be doing better but you are doing a hell of a lot worse. Then start doing better....panic....do something ! Stop being so "crazy". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Then start doing better....panic....do something ! Stop being so "crazy". You should at least attempt to follow our example. Quote
Wilber Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Then start doing better....panic....do something ! Stop being so "crazy". No need for us to panic but we probably could and most important, probably can do better but it also depends some on who your neighbors are. Take Australia for example which shares no borders and has very strict gun control measures and 1/6 the number of firearms per capita as the US. Your firearm homicide rate is 21 times higher. Carry on Crazy. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 No need for us to panic but we probably could and most important, probably can do better... Of course...cancelling the very popular "Gun Registry" is certainly doing better ! Do as I say...not as I do ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Of course...cancelling the very popular "Gun Registry" is certainly doing better ! Do as I say...not as I do ? That kind of rhetoric is useless. The people you're arguing with probably support the Gun Registry. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Speaking of rhetoric, let's stop calling each other 'crazy' on this thread. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Boges Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 Speaking of rhetoric, let's stop calling each other 'crazy' on this thread. That's crazy Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 That's crazy Mass shootings are "crazy"...can't we just get back to "Murder She Wrote" ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted December 3, 2015 Report Posted December 3, 2015 The mass shootings aren't crazy, it's the idea that they're normal that's nuts. Guns have little if anything to do with that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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