DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 Just now, Bob Macadoo said: ......oh yeah then there are just the idealogues who have no emotional attachment to this.....they're just paid actors to lobby and cajole for those 2 parties. So nothing. Understood. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rue said: You cling to a ridiculous notion that you can blame "we" i.e., the West, i.e., white Christian men, for the divisions within Islamic society. That's what you heard rue, it's certainly not what I said, ever. Edited June 4, 2017 by eyeball A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, Rue said: Your first sentence reflects the fact you have no awareness of where to find the reference to peaceful behaviour in the Koran or other Islamic doctrine. They exist. The fact you do not know they exist only reflects your ignorance posed as a declaration. Rue, you have pointed out that that statements in the Koran are superseded by contradictory statements made after they were. And Douglas Murray has said much the same, that not only are the more peaceful references often superseded by the more violent passages, but they are greatly outnumbered by them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChhWlM8LsE&t=330s "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Argus said: Rue, you have pointed out that that statements in the Koran are superseded by contradictory statements made after they were. And Douglas Murray has said much the same, that not only are the more peaceful references often superseded by the more violent passages, but they are greatly outnumbered by them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChhWlM8LsE&t=330s Not just that: any "good verses" are directed towards fellow Muslims...not the detested kafir. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 My issue is the Koran is full of words you can use to hate or do the exact opposite just like the Bible is. Show me a holy book I can use it as a weapon or a method to bandage a wound. Its my choice or yours. I am not here to state there are no extremist Muslims or terrorist Muslims. I am here to state it requires a tad more intelligence to not throw out the entire Islamic religion of fail to differentiate between innocent and extremist-terrorist Muslims. Any idiot can come on this forum and engage in baboon grunts. Anyone. Its simple. You find the pack of apes you don't like and make grunting noises at them. I get it. Stay away from by bananas. I get it. I have been an ape for 61 years. I get it. Alpha male apes, female apes, procreation, fleas, etc. Get it. Jane Goodall that pink ape with no hair she spoke with me. She explained why I like to mount other apes and make grunting noises. I communicate with her. All is fine. That said what now. Do we make grunting noises at any Muslim we can find because of some idiot in London. Is that it? This crap has been going in Britain with the IRA long before these current monkeys. Did it break them? Did hating all Irish people get rid of the IRA? What you think in Israel the majority of people every time there is one of these attacks goes out and kills and attacks a Muslim and blames them all? Seige mentality develops. I won't even attempt to explain that phenomena but I will tell you this. No one h as broken the spirit of Israelis with terrorism and they certainly never did with Britain whether it be that idiot Hitler or the IRA or anyone else. That is because such people do not give in to their base primal fears and revert to the terrorists that attack them. Sorry I have zero time of day for Go Shenas. For me there is zero difference between his extremism and those of Muslim terrorists. None. Da nada. Zero. Don't mistake me as some guilt ridden Liberal either. I am saying anyone who wants to use such horrendous acts to justify hating all Muslims can skip me out. Been there. Seen it. The enemy to me is not that simple to define. I don't like guns. If I have to use one it will be done discriminately not indiscriminately-it won't be based on subjective, lash out reactionary emotions. Seen that happen with young kids in military uniforms. Its hard. Its hard to keep a level head when the enemy takes on the guise of a civilian and attacks the innocent. Its hard not to lash back at the entire group you think that terrorist hides in. They bait through terrorism. They want yout o charge with anger into the crowd and take down the innocent as well as the guilty. That is precisely the game. Then these same rats claim by doing so we ar eno better then them. I know people who have died in such situations because they didn't lash out and want to kill innocent people and so exposed themselves to the rats hiding in the crowds. I know others who went in took down the rats and killed some innocents by accident to do so. Either way there is regret, sorrow, people with broken hearts. What would you have me do-smear the blood of the dead on me and go running into a mosque and blow it up? How far do we go with this anti Muslim rhetoric every time there is a terror attack? I loath the scum who did what he did on the bridge. Don't ask me to now lash out at innocent Muslims or reduce the entire religion to the garbage heap. Too simple. Too primal. They will track down the cell. A ripple effect will happen you and I will not know about. There's going to be far more of this, this summer. The question will be how do people in the West who used to lecture Israel on how they should behave in the face of terrorism now behave? Don't take the name of Jews in vain to justify hating Muslims I say to this Go Shenas. Its not what Israelis are about. No Israeli I know in the army used terrorism as an excuse to hate. They transcended such feelings. They get into a zone where feelings and morality are illusions and not going to keep them alive as they try safeguard others. No don't ask me to arm chair cheer hate in any form terrorist or anti Muslim or anything else. I hate guns. I hated them. I hate bullets. You have to shoot a gun you never again want to. You have no feelings for the gun. You look at it and realize if you have to use one you've already failed. A lot more blood is coming. Don't ask me to be incited by it. I don't have feelings for such garbage. I don't get angry. I realize each terror act means good people will now die tracking down terrorists and the innocent will continue dying. Period. 1
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 The world's only Jew ^^^ Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The world's only Jew ^^^ What is your point? One must have to shitpost a tonne for Rue to call you out on it.
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, Rue said: I loath the scum who did what he did on the bridge. Don't ask me to now lash out at innocent Muslims or reduce the entire religion to the garbage heap. Too simple. I agree that no-one should lash out at innocent Muslims. But equally, no-one should ever try and point out that Islam is a religion of peace and is not responsible for the violence. Islam is a barbaric primitive religion, far more so than any other religion in existence today. It calls for the deaths of blasphemers and apostates. Entire countries have punishments for being homosexual, including the death penalty in some cases. It openly oppresses women. Individual Mulsims aside, given the evidence freely available around much of the world, it's difficult to avoid consigning much of the religion to the garbage heap.
Omni Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Entire countries have punishments for being homosexual Like Canada and the US until not very long ago.
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Omni said: Like Canada and the US until not very long ago. Yes. How barbaric was that? Was it death? Still, at least we don't anymore, eh? More enlightened. Less barbaric and primitive. Edited June 4, 2017 by bcsapper
Omni Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Yes. How barbaric was that? Was it death? Still, at least we don't anymore, eh? More enlightened. Less barbaric and primitive. It's amazing how quick some people are to point fingers while ignoring the rear view mirror.
Guest Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: It's amazing how quick some people are to point fingers while ignoring the rear view mirror. Do you disagree with where the fingers are pointing at all? Is it your sole contention that because one of the conditions I pointed out in my post was applied with far less barbarity some time ago in countries that have since seen the light, all current Islamic barbarity should get a pass?
Omni Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: Do you disagree with where the fingers are pointing at all? Is it your sole contention that because one of the conditions I pointed out in my post was applied with far less barbarity some time ago in countries that have since seen the light, all current Islamic barbarity should get a pass? Barbarity of whichever kind should never get "a pass".
eyeball Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, bcsapper said: But equally, no-one should ever try and point out that Islam is a religion of peace and is not responsible for the violence. Of course people are responsible for the violence they cause. In the meantime, how do you feel about the morons who point out how endlessly noble and pure the west is, has been and apparently forever will be? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Rue said: This crap has been going in Britain with the IRA long before these current monkeys. Did it break them? Did hating all Irish people get rid of the IRA? You realize there is a difference between 'hating' Muslims and disliking Islam and how it is interpreted by its adherents, right? But given the opinions of, as one example, Egyptians I posted yesterday, taken from PEW research polls, is it really Islamophobia to be extremely wary of Muslims as a group? And btw, there is NO comparison between the IRA and what these people do. If an IRA member had seriously proposed bombing a stadium full of teenage girls his fellows would have shot him out of hand as they would a rabid dog. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 13 hours ago, eyeball said: If we'd left it alone 65 years or so ago it very likely would be doing just that. And its not like we still don't have an equally archaic religion close at hand ourselves, just in case I guess. Blame the elite globalist Zionists for the reasons why we have all these Arab terrorists bombing everywhere and anyone they can. And with the west importing millions of them as immigrants what else can we expect? The only way now to stop all this bombing and killings going on is to stop all immigrants coming from Muslim countries completely. And why not? They refuse to assimilate anyway. Trump is right our PM is wrong.
Omni Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, taxme said: Trump is right our PM is wrong. Apparently a lot of very well educated people (like judges) think the other way around.
Argus Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, taxme said: Blame the elite globalist Zionists for the reasons why we have all these Arab terrorists bombing everywhere and anyone they can. Are you saying Trudeau is a Zionist? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 Maybe he's saying you (Argus) are a Zionist. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
taxme Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 55 minutes ago, Argus said: Are you saying Trudeau is a Zionist? Hey, you never know. Most politicians are puppets on a string of the zionists.
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, taxme said: Hey, you never know. Most politicians are puppets on a string of the zionists. I'm a Zionist. I seriously doubt JT takes his orders from Netanyahu, taxme. 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
taxme Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Omni said: Apparently a lot of very well educated people (like judges) think the other way around. Most judges may be well educated but that does not mean that they are all that smart either. Many are political. Many have different political points of views, and will use those political points and leanings when judging many politically correct and incorrect issues or people. Judges can and do have biases and are prejudice. So, stop with trying to make it appear as though judges are gods gift to man kind, and are a bunch of know alls. Some judges are just plain goofballs.
taxme Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Maybe he's saying you (Argus) are a Zionist. Hey, you never know.
DogOnPorch Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, taxme said: Hey, you never know. George Soros, however...the anti-Zionist. He has big pockets. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
taxme Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: I'm a Zionist. I seriously doubt JT takes his orders from Netanyahu, taxme. Well, it would appear as though he is taking his orders from the globalist elites who are behind all this third world immigration to all western countries where these scum seem to be trying to dilute it's people with other cultures that are no where near compatible with the host western people, and their culture and traditions. As far as I am concerned JT's puppet strings are being controlled by these new world order one world government scum. My opinion of course, and I approve of it.
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