Donald Trumpisms

[Rue]

Trump in both physical mannerism and rhetoric is virtually a genetic clone to Mussolini.

He picks up the anger of the day and reflects it back.

Like Mussolini he has no fixed script. He feeds back whatever angers people inciting them and telling them what he thinks they want to hear.

He uses anger, frustration, a feeling of powerlessness, to enrage his audience.

He talks about himself as if he is two different people a classic exercise demagogues use.

He is feeding in and tapping on repressed feelings people do not feel they can express in our politically correct climate.

Obama says don't lash out at all Muslims-he says do so.

Whatever Obama says, he will say the opposite, deliberately so.

Now how far will this go?

Some believe a middle of the road Republican will come up the middle after Trump self destructs and many GOP's say its still too early to assume he has won anything.

Some people believe Americans will pull back at the appropriate time closer to the vote.

Some believe he speaks for the disaffected those who feel Obama blew it and Trump is standing up for all the things Obama rejected and the GOP mainstream won't discuss out of fear of political correctness.

Myself, I find Trump no different than Mussolini-a blow hard- a pompous, self important, narcissist.

I find it interesting he appeals to poor Americans and down trodden Americans who feel shut out by the elite when he will flaunt his alleged weath whenever he can as something he earned and did not inherit.

He is a myth maker and his myth is himself. He created a myth he made millions and is worth millions. He inherited what he had, lost most of it on bad deals and today rents out the use of his name but other then that Madonna-Oprah marketing scheme which works quite well, has never engaged in an actual real estate deal that made money. His money comes today from marketing his name not his real estate transactions.

In fact they are all in debt.

If people actually took the time to investigate his actual business dealings they would find he is a rather lousy real estate seller hyping and over inflating projects that go bankrupt.

I think he continues a tradition of demagogues or Mussolini fascists that come about in any political era where the power in charge has failed.

In the US being weak, apologizing for strength, as Obama has done triggers a back lash.

The US has been and will always be a nation of warriors. Their history, their culture, their traditions, are all attached to war history and a chauvinistic pride that comes from standing up and defeating what is seen as evil.

Trump is just tapping into that and something Obama has ridiculed for 8 years.

I still believe a Bush-Rubio team will calmly emerge at the appropriate time for the GOP.

Trump could break off as a third party candidate. I see him today's equivalent to what George Wallace was in the 60's and 70's in the US-a populist who feeds on anger and disappointment-someone who appeals to negativity and anger to prop himself as the person to extinguish it.

The way to defeat Trump is to offer an alternative to what he says without directly responding to him. Obama did that in a weak pre-emptive address to the public on t.v. but at this point Obama is spent. He barely made it through his speech. If Obama had any pride he would resign and let Biden finish out the remaining term. Obama's non verbal language indicates someone who long ago left the white house-an angry failed man.

Trump? He gets puffier by the day. He probably will die of a heart attack within a year or so. All the anger in him is killing him.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Trump is a complete and total idiot and a fu****g bigot. What a trash. Put him in the trash bag of the history where he belongs. His idea of generalization and banning or punishing all for the actions of few reminds me of many trashes in the history as well.

[bush_cheney2004]

Donald Trump even has Canadian politicians with their irrelevant panties in a bunch.

Of course, Trump's money was very much welcomed for investment in Toronto (Trump International Hotel and Tower)!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-muslim-canadian-trudeau-1.3356074

[Wilber]

Donald Trump even has Canadian politicians with their irrelevant panties in a bunch.

Of course, Trump's money was very much welcomed for investment in Toronto (Trump International Hotel and Tower)!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-muslim-canadian-trudeau-1.3356074

Trump has nothing invested but his name and that has become a liability.

http://www.news1130.com/2015/12/08/dump-trump-name-vancouver/

His name staying on this building will probably only depend on how much it might cost the developer to get out of the deal with Trump.

Edited December 9, 2015 by Wilber

[bush_cheney2004]

Trump has nothing invested but his name and that has become a liability.

Then why wasn't it built without Trump to begin with ?

[Wilber]

Then why wasn't it built without Trump to begin with ?

The tower is being developed by Holborn group. The Trump group engaged to manage the hotel and for the use of the Trump brand. Trump is an employee, not an owner and his brand is now toxic in this part of the world.

[On Guard for Thee]

Then why wasn't it built without Trump to begin with ?

Trump towers in both yyz ad yvr have nothing to do with trump, other than his name. And in all likelihood his name will be shaved off. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[bush_cheney2004]

Now Trump rocks in Canada....saying things that a lot of Canadians are afraid to say in their own country.

Many CBC rubes support Trump !

[bush_cheney2004]

The tower is being developed by Holborn group. The Trump group engaged to manage the hotel and for the use of the Trump brand. Trump is an employee, not an owner and his brand is now toxic in this part of the world.

Trump's toxic mouth has been known for decades.

[Argus]

I think one of the main attractions of Donald Trump is that he doesn't mince words. He isn't a typical bland politician whose every utterance is run through spin doctors first, who equivocates on everything, and never takes firm stands unless the polls tell him to. You never know what a politician really feels, what he stands for or believes. They don't mean what they say and they don't say what they mean. They're guided by lobbyists in the states, and focus groups and polling there and here. They're a bunch of self-serving weasels

Amid that, Trump's brash words can seem refreshing. And the politicians should pay attention, because I'm sure someone out there is, maybe someone with a little more political savvy than Trump who can add in the 'openness' while not making ridiculous promises and absurd statements about things he can't possibly do even if they ought to be done. His attitude can appeal to a lot of people, if there is a little more thought behind it.

[Argus]

Trump's toxic mouth has been known for decades.

Yeah, but now it's becoming associated with open attacks on just about every minority.

[bush_cheney2004]

Since Canada's government controlled CBC is now whining about Trump, he must be doing something right, including appealing to Canadians who don't want 25,000 Syrian refugees jammed down their throats by Trudeau, but are afraid to say it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-fascist-1.3356511#commentwrapper

Some say Trump is a "fascist", the same ones that said Harper was a "fascist", and he ruled for nine years. Trump should be so lucky.

[On Guard for Thee]

Since Canada's government controlled CBC is now whining about Trump, he must be doing something right, including appealing to Canadians who don't want 25,000 Syrian refugees jammed down their throats by Trudeau, but are afraid to say it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-fascist-1.3356511#commentwrapper

Some say Trump is a "fascist", the same ones that said Harper was a "fascist", and he ruled for nine years. Trump should be so lucky.

Reporting on political races involving our neighbors to the south, and even when it involves morons like Trump, is what TV news stations do. I doubt his form of racism appeals to many Canadians. Now would you like to inform us as to how you got this idea the CBC is government controlled?

[Big Guy]

I suspect that those posters who woke up this morning and realized that they were actually in bed with the Trump philosophies on Islam will now review their position. That is, unless they allow him to be their spokesman for "national security", "patriotism" and "nationalism".

Do you really agree with this guy?

[Michael Hardner]

https://t.co/dO16LjMGAi

Benjamin Netanyahu has joined a long list of international leaders to reject Donald Trump’s comments about Muslims, while championing Israel's "respect" for all religions and citizens' rights.[/size]

The Israeli Prime Minister released a statement saying he will still meet with the Republican Presidential candidate for previously scheduled talks later this month but does not “endorse his views”.

Well, I didn't see that coming but it makes some modicum of sense... I.... guess...

Israel doesn't even have such a ban in place so how could the US do it ?

[ReeferMadness]

Trump leads the GOP lemmings off the side of a cliff.

Trump could be the instrument of destruction for the grand old party. We live in interesting times.

ETA: my favorite trump tweet was one that said Trump proved you don't need to be poor to be white trash.

Edited December 9, 2015 by ReeferMadness

[bush_cheney2004]

President Jimmy Carter (Democrat) banned Iranian travel to the U.S. and legally came down hard on visa violations in 1979-1980.

"Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [state] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly."

....Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield

Edited December 9, 2015 by bush_cheney2004

[WestCoastRunner]

President Jimmy Carter (Democrat) banned Iranian travel to the U.S. and legally came down hard on visa violations in 1979-1980.

"Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [state] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly."

....Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield

Two wrongs don't make it right. Edited December 9, 2015 by WestCoastRunner

[bush_cheney2004]

Two wrongs don't make it right.

Just adding a little political context for the young ones out there.

[eyeball]

Trump leads the GOP lemmings off the side of a cliff.

Trump could be the instrument of destruction for the grand old party. We live in interesting times.

ETA: my favorite trump tweet was one that said Trump proved you don't need to be poor to be white trash.

The same phenomenon is happening down south as happened here, the face of really overt right-wing conservatism is just too ugly for people to put up with. Most rational people in a voting booth will do the appropriate thing.

Notwithstanding the potential of a really bad galvanizing event...case in point, imagine where we might be right now if Paris had been hit a few weeks before our election. The times are interesting and just as dangerous.

Edited December 10, 2015 by eyeball

[WestCoastRunner]

Just adding a little political context for the young ones out there.

Yea I didn't realize Carter did that. Interesting. And I think 15,000 students had to leave after reviewing their applications. Not sure why they had to leave.

[WestCoastRunner]

Notwithstanding the potential of a really bad galvanizing event...case in point, imagine where we might be right now if Paris had been hit a few weeks before our election. The times are interesting and just as dangerous.

If the Paris attack had of occurred before our election it wouldn't have changed my voting preference even though I was pissed. I don't think your giving enough credit to voters. Edited December 10, 2015 by WestCoastRunner

[Bryan]

Two wrongs don't make it right.

It wasn't wrong then, it isn't wrong now.

[WestCoastRunner]

It wasn't wrong then, it isn't wrong now.

Of course it was wrong.

[Bryan]

Of course it was wrong.

It absolutely was not. It was the correct course of action for the situation that presented itself. Due diligence that may not be necessary is much better than being sorry you weren't more careful later.