Je suis Omar Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) What army was Khadr a soldier of? This is a moot question. Afghanistan was illegally invaded by the USA. The USA was there as an invading horde of war criminals and terrorists. What would that make those who support the USA in their illegal invasion? Edited May 21, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 .....What would that make those who support the USA in their illegal invasion? Economic opportunists and great customers...like Canada ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 He was an illegal combatant, but I guess all child soldiers, by definition, are illegal combatants. The correct term the US uses is 'enemy combatant'. Which is something that is not recognized or talked about in UN conventions. By that alone, the US is not playing by many international law in which it helped set up. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Je suis Omar, on 20 May 2015 - 8:51 PM, said: .....What would that make those who support the USA in their illegal invasion? Economic opportunists and great customers...like Canada ! I'm quite sure that I have never personally witnessed a more truly morally bankrupt statement. And you seem to revel in it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 I'm quite sure that I have never personally witnessed a more truly morally bankrupt statement. And you seem to revel in it. Yes...I do...because it is reality...compared to nonsensical delusion based on moral fantasy. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Je suis Omar Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 .compared to nonsensical delusion based on moral fantasy. Like the following fantasies: the USA is a rule of law country. The USA is a kind, benevolent nation. The USA is a free enterprise, capitalist country. The USA ... . Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 Like the following fantasies: the USA is a rule of law country. The USA is a kind, benevolent nation. The USA is a free enterprise, capitalist country. The USA ... . More fantasies...the USA is only partially those things. Economics trumps virtue...same as in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted May 21, 2015 Report Posted May 21, 2015 The correct term the US uses is 'enemy combatant'. Which is something that is not recognized or talked about in UN conventions. By that alone, the US is not playing by many international law in which it helped set up. Which law are yiu referring to? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Which law are yiu referring to? How about international law as defined by various UN articles.. Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 How about international law as defined by various UN articles.. Which one? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Which one? There are many, which one would you like..you should do your own research and perhaps educate yourself. Here is a hint though, go look at article 51. Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 There are many, which one would you like..you should do your own research and perhaps educate yourself. Here is a hint though, go look at article 51. So which part are you saying applies? Quote
GostHacked Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 So which part are you saying applies? Does the UN recognize the term 'enemy combatant' ? Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Does the UN recognize the term 'enemy combatant' ? What should one be called that doesn't follow the UN rules of being a soldier? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 What should one be called that doesn't follow the UN rules of being a soldier? How about a child if they are 15 years old... Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 How about a child if they are 15 years old... Sure, a child murderer. Almost 16. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Sure, a child murderer. Almost 16. A child...at least you get that. Imprisoned and tortured in an illegal prison, convicted of a crime dreamed up 4 years after his incarceration, even though it turns out there were any doubts cast on his actual actions in the event, cast by personnel actually on sight at the time. Suck up that kool aid if you wish. Luckily cooler heads have prevailed. Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 A child...at least you get that. Imprisoned and tortured in an illegal prison, convicted of a crime dreamed up 4 years after his incarceration, even though it turns out there were any doubts cast on his actual actions in the event, cast by personnel actually on sight at the time. Suck up that kool aid if you wish. Luckily cooler heads have prevailed. An almost 16 year old that was part of no army, who murdered a U.S. soldier serving in a nato approved mission. He wasn't totrtued, nor was the prison illegal, whatever that means. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 An almost 16 year old that was part of no army, who murdered a U.S. soldier serving in a nato approved mission. He wasn't totrtued, nor was the prison illegal, whatever that means. An almost 16 year old makes him a child. A child whos housing complex came under attack in a firefight by an invading army in an illegal war.. There is no absolute proof of what he did. He was waterboarded in Gitmo, which was an illegal prison. Maybe try reading and understanding article 51 as I suggest as to why the invasion was illegal for starters before you start putting words into NATO countries mouths. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 serving in a nato approved mission. . NATO is no different than the combination of Germany, Japan, Italy, ... . War crimes are war crimes and terrorism is terrorism. Aligning oneself with the strongest group of gangsters is hardly the mark of a moral individual. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Gee...at this rate, Khadr will be recognized as a Canadian war hero deserving of the Victoria Cross. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Gee...at this rate, Khadr will be recognized as a Canadian war hero deserving of the Victoria Cross. I doubt that, but he will be a long standing icon of how really wonky the US legal system became uder the guidance of the likes of Bush, Cheney, et al. Sorry about your choices. Quote
Shady Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 An almost 16 year old makes him a child. A child whos housing complex came under attack in a firefight by an invading army in an illegal war.. There is no absolute proof of what he did. He was waterboarded in Gitmo, which was an illegal prison. Maybe try reading and understanding article 51 as I suggest as to why the invasion was illegal for starters before you start putting words into NATO countries mouths. As I've already proven, somebody 16 or younger can be tried as an adult. A 15 or 16 year old knows that murder is wrong. Quote
eyeball Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 Yes but the SCC has declared that Omar Khadr is not an adult. Check...mate in another court case or two. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 22, 2015 Report Posted May 22, 2015 As I've already proven, somebody 16 or younger can be tried as an adult. A 15 or 16 year old knows that murder is wrong. I think we all know that some states in certain cases will prosecute minors as adults, so there was nothing much to prove. This is about Khadr. Do you think waterboarding him should be legal as well... Quote
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