Topaz Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 The widow of the US Medic killed in Afghanistan will be trying to sue Khadr for the killing of her husband, really? No doubt if the Harper government can help knowing the way they feel about this guy, she may do it unless a Canadian court says no. IS this were society has come were widows or other family members can sue someone in war, when they went to war knowing that they could get killed. I'm sorry she lost her hubby but this unreal. I heard her on TV and she wants any money Khadr gets to go to her and she also pointed out that she heard Khadr was going to sue the Canadian government and so SHE wants that money. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/widow-ex-soldier-move-final-judgment-134m-suit-150008141.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 She'll have to prove he actually killed her husband. Good luck with that. Oh well, maybe it'll help push the SCC towards total exoneration for Khadr. It's obvious that's the direction this is all going. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 She'll have to prove he actually killed her husband. Good luck with that. Oh well, maybe it'll help push the SCC towards total exoneration for Khadr. It's obvious that's the direction this is all going. In civil litigation she won't have to prove it. She'll just have to prove that it was likely that he did. The problem she'll have in the case is defending her argument against the argument that Khadr was acting in self-defence when her armed husband showed up at the door as a party to an occupying military force. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) The widow of the US Medic killed in Afghanistan will be trying to sue Khadr for the killing of her husband, really? No doubt if the Harper government can help knowing the way they feel about this guy, she may do it unless a Canadian court says no. If Harper were against the lawsuit, I wonder what you would say? Edited May 17, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm sure her lawyer knows that Khadr is set to receive millions from the Canadian government in the near future for all his rights violations... and she wants to cash in on that. Quote Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) I'm sure her lawyer knows that Khadr is set to receive millions from the Canadian government in the near future for all his rights violations... and she wants to cash in on that. Why shouldn't she cash in? He killed her husband. He's a murderer. Edited May 17, 2015 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Why shouldn't she cash in? He killed her husband. He's a murderer. A soldier in a war.... how many WWII deceased soldier's widows cashed in on Germans after the war? It's a silly concept... especially a child soldier who was torured and was found to have his rights violated in a myriad of ways... Edited May 17, 2015 by The_Squid Quote Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) A soldier in a war.... how many WWII deceased soldier's widows cashed in on Germans after the war? It's a silly concept... especially a child soldier who was torured and was found to have his rights violated in a myriad of ways... A soldier in what army? Edited May 17, 2015 by Shady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 A soldier in a war.... how many WWII deceased soldier's widows cashed in on Germans after the war? It's a silly concept... especially a child soldier who was torured and was found to have his rights violated in a myriad of ways... You can't kill a soldier if you aren't part of an army without committing a crime. But yes, try to make this the same as a WWII battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 In civil litigation she won't have to prove it. She'll just have to prove that it was likely that he did. The problem she'll have in the case is defending her argument against the argument that Khadr was acting in self-defence when her armed husband showed up at the door as a party to an occupying military force. Won't even ever come to that. Many things going on that will probably prevent the superior court of justice from looking at this lawsuit. He was a minor at the time for first! Not sure if the court will handle a case revolving around an event that happened outside of Canada. Statute of limitations is not pivotal on whether Omar has money or not. Don't think the death of a soldier in combat could ever be ruled accidental. There's probably several other things going on that would prevent this from going to trial. As well, there's many Afghans living in Canada, if this case ever went through, the flood gates would burst wide open against the Canadian military. Since this hasn't happened, I'm inclined to believe that there are many obstacles in the way from such cases ever coming to light in Canada. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) If she sues Khadr then Khadr should sue the US gov for torturing him. Neither will happen successfully. Edited May 17, 2015 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 If she sues Khadr then Khadr should sue the US gov for torturing him. Neither will happen successfully. But he wasn't tortured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You can't kill a soldier if you aren't part of an army without committing a crime. But yes, try to make this the same as a WWII battle. So Khadr was extradited to the USA for trial in civilian court with a civilian crime, as is the law? Since, you know... he wasn't a soldier.... even though we are at war with people like Khadr, no? You people are so confused, it's not even funny... Quote Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 So Khadr was extradited to the USA for trial in civilian court with a civilian crime, as is the law? Since, you know... he wasn't a soldier.... even though we are at war with people like Khadr, no? No, he was tried as a terrorist. Different systems were developed for that. You're the confused one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I think what you mean is they made up laws to charge him with. Quote Rapists, pedophiles, and nazis post online too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 He means they simply suspended the proper rule of law is all. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 No, he was tried as a terrorist. Different systems were developed for that. You're the confused one. As opposed to the others, which were divinely inspired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 A soldier in what army?in the army that the U.S. declared war against. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You can't kill a soldier if you aren't part of an army without committing a crime. But yes, try to make this the same as a WWII battle.You can't declare war with a state army against civilians either.....but hey, let's talk about how many ways that Convention was busted. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 in the army that the U.S. declared war against. So he was a Taliban soldier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You can't declare war with a state army against civilians either.....but hey, let's talk about how many ways that Convention was busted. You can attack armed militant groups as a matter of self defence actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 So he was a Taliban soldier?You tell me. Isn't that part of your narrative? Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You can attack armed militant groups as a matter of self defence actually.Just keep moving those goalposts. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You remember when Justin Bourque, an armed militant, was cutting down RCMP officers in Moncton and the RCMP was caught with its pants down because they didn't provide the proper equipment to Codiac RCMP to deal with that situation? You know who they didn't send in to deal with that armed militant? The military, despite the base being a little more than an hour away and they most certainly had the equipment necessary. You know why they didn't send the military? Because they're not allowed to engage with civilians. So when you argue that Khadr is a civilian, you're arguing that the military had no authority to go after him. When an occupying force shows up at his house with guns pointed in his face, they're pointing them at an illegal target by international convention. When he responds by attacking them, he's fighting a state military, which is actually more legal by international law than what the US military themselves were doing. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You tell me. Isn't that part of your narrative? I'm just trying to follow your logic. If he was a soldier, what army was he a part of? It's a simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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