waldo Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 About time. The MSM is going out of its way to go after harper on one thing, duffy. We are in a election yr and there is alotof important stuff people need to know. Bunch of vultures . was that you PIK? Quote
PIK Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 was that you PIK? I am younger and a lot better looking. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
waldo Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 now I'm not a teacher... but.. "dismissed": to, "fire, boot out, sack, give notice, terminate, can" Quote
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Where did you get that idea? If Wright were dismissed with cause (fired), there would be a letter to this effect stating the reasons. Wright would have been able to appeal this under the Employment Standards Act. Nothing like this happened. Alternatively, Wright could have been dismissed without cause, in which case he would have received severance pay. There has been no indication this happened. If he tendered his resignation, he would not have received severance, and he was effectively dismissed when the resignation was accepted. Trying to spin this on semantics is a childish game. It won't convince anyone, and it just embarrasses you, making people less inclined to read any more of your comments. Really??? I don't believe you are actually dense enough to make the arguments you are making. A guy who's so loaded he thinks nothing of digging 90 grand out of his pocket to cover up his party's interference with an audit is not going to sue for severance. Whether he resigned or was fired is not for us peon citizens to know. The fact is that your hero Mr Harper said he was dismissed, trying to make it sound like he took action. If Harper simply accepted his resignation and wanted to be honest about it, he would have said that. Instead Harper claimed that he took action and dismissed Wright. So someone is not being honest and I suspect, as usual, it's everyone. Probably, the original agreement was that Wright would resign and then some genius in the PMO decided it would make Harper look more decisive if he could make people believe that he fired Wright. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Vancouver King Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 About time. The MSM is going out of its way to go after harper on one thing, duffy. We are in a election yr and there is alotof important stuff people need to know. Bunch of vultures . ... if only Harper would start answering questions. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
socialist Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 now I'm not a teacher... but.. "dismissed": to, "fire, boot out, sack, give notice, terminate, can" No one could POSSIBLY buy that there's a serious distinction between "dismissed" and "fired". Plus, you're conveniently and deceptively leaving out the part where the PM said that he regretted Wright's resignation. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
socialist Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 ... if only Harper would start answering questions. Ontario. Multiple billions wasted. Coverup of information. Police investigations into criminal issues like destruction of government property as evidence. THAT'S a scandal!! The Duffy case is nothing in comparison. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
PIK Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Liberals would never understand a guy like wright, We conservatives actually care, not about ourselves but the country. We are not the ''entitlement party'' Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
waldo Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 oh my! The meat, the juicy part... is the revisionism! One day the goodSoldierWright "resigned"... and it was regrettably accepted by Harper... some time after, when the shyte starts to hit the fan, efforts begin to isolate that goodSoldier and place Harper into a position of discriminating rule/authority... the revised line becomes the "goodSoldier was dismissed"! Quote
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 About time. The MSM is going out of its way to go after harper on one thing, duffy. We are in a election yr and there is alotof important stuff people need to know. Bunch of vultures . Yeah. It's well known that the CPC is very discerning about who they let into their rallies. Now we can see the mentality of Harper's core supporters. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
waldo Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 We conservatives actually care, not about ourselves but the country. We are not the ''entitlement party'' PIK, that genuinely causes me to, "pass some eye-water", with a "lump in my throat"! . Quote
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Liberals would never understand a guy like wright, We conservatives actually care, not about ourselves but the country. We are not the ''entitlement party'' Yes. Wright and the PMO tried to subvert the senate audit because they care about the country. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
socialist Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Yes. Wright and the PMO tried to subvert the senate audit because they care about the country. And the end result? Not guilty and the charges against Harb will be withdrawn with no expectation of a conviction. You can't break an imaginary law that isn't defined. The good thing that will come out of the whole affair is that there will be stringent enforced rules on what constitutes legitimate expenses. As far as the accepting a bribe, what was he accepting it for? Too much grey area. Not a chance of conviction. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 And the end result? Not guilty and the charges against Harb will be withdrawn with no expectation of a conviction. You can't break an imaginary law that isn't defined. The good thing that will come out of the whole affair is that there will be stringent enforced rules on what constitutes legitimate expenses. As far as the accepting a bribe, what was he accepting it for? Too much grey area. Not a chance of conviction. Huh. I didn't know the laws against bribery were imaginary. You should tell the Justice Department. Seems like information that might interest them. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Argus Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 This deplorable situation could be avoided if Harper would actually answer questions. You mean the questions he's already answered several times, but with different answers this time, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
PIK Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 PIK, that genuinely causes me to, "pass some eye-water", with a "lump in my throat"! . It should, and I hope it makes you a better person. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Argus Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah. It's well known that the CPC is very discerning about who they let into their rallies. Now we can see the mentality of Harper's core supporters. You mean sometimes they get impatient with the repetitive partisan questions? Gee, burn them! Burn them! Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 You mean sometimes they get impatient with the repetitive partisan questions? Gee, burn them! Burn them! Maybe it would help if Harper would just answer the questions. Instead of avoiding them. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Argus Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Maybe it would help if Harper would just answer the questions. Instead of avoiding them. He's already answered them. You want him to answer them differently. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Posted August 18, 2015 Harper keeps saying its Wright and Duffy problem, well today Novak just pulled into it. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ex-pm-aide-nigel-wright-to-face-more-grilling-at-mike-duffy-trial-322134371.html Quote
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 He's already answered them. You want him to answer them differently. No, he hasn't answered them. He's been asked about the existing staff, including Ray Novak, who clearly were aware of the plot to undermine the senate audit. He keeps on parroting the the talking points about Duffy and Wright. More to the point is this. Harper is a notorious micro-manager. Why didn't he know that his COS was cutting a 90 grand cheque to Duffy? There are two possibilities. Either he did know and he's lying. Or Wright was keeping in from him in order to give his boss plausible deniability. And if Wright was keeping it from him, that implies Wright (and Novak certainly) knew that what they were doing was wrong and probably illegal. Someone besides Duffy should be up on charges. Maybe even Harper himself. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Harper keeps saying its Wright and Duffy problem, well today Novak just pulled into it. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/ex-pm-aide-nigel-wright-to-face-more-grilling-at-mike-duffy-trial-322134371.html the link requires a login, and it seems to be a pay site. here's an alternative. http://www.thestar.com/news/mike-duffy/2015/08/18/nigel-wright-denies-he-meddled-in-audit-of-duffys-expenses.html Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Conservatives contradict themselves on Duffy affair. What came out later: Stewart Olsen was one of the senators taking direct orders from Wright and others in PMO on how to shape the committee's final report on Duffy to make sure the language was softened. "Hi Nigel, just a quick note to say that I am always ready to do exactly what is asked...," she wrote in an email on Mar.1, 2013. I am always ready to do exactly what is asked. Clear evidence that under the Conservatives, the supposedly independent senate is squarely under the thumb of the PMO. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Icebound Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Conservatives contradict themselves on Duffy affair. I am always ready to do exactly what is asked. Clear evidence that under the Conservatives, the supposedly independent senate is squarely under the thumb of the PMO. Harper did not realize that demeaning the Role of the Senate would unleash this storm. Had he appointed someone interested in carrying out Canada's business... Instead of a Party bagman..... none of this would be happening. Edited August 18, 2015 by Icebound Quote
socialist Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Harper did not realize that demeaning the Role of the Senate would unleash this storm. Had he appointed someone interested in carrying out Canada's business... Instead of a Party bagman..... none of this would be happening. The Liberals appointed a few party 'bagmen" too. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
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