Black Dog Posted February 20, 2015 Report Posted February 20, 2015 Black Dog: if only he was clever enough to understand what I write rather than impute motives behind what I wrote. This topic is 24 pages long now and nowhere on it, despite all the screaming and insults directed at me from politically correct fascist assholes will you find me criticizing the court's decision. That might have given you pause to consider if you ever paused to consider. It's not like I've ever been reluctant to criticize a court's decision before... Argus: so detached from the subject he spends 24 pages screaming about it on the internet. I didn't suggest or imply you disagreed with the court's decision. Indeed, it was pretty obvious that I was pointing out that you were just using the thread on those particular subject to as a vehicle for your views on Islam and immigration, views that have been repeated on this board ad nauseam. As for the Quebec thing, well, it's just funny watching you cite, with some obvious approval, the opinions of a group of people you refer to as "cultural bigots and racists." Quote
guyser Posted February 20, 2015 Report Posted February 20, 2015 No, there is widespread dislike and distrust of those who wear these sorts of garments, not for their appearance alone, but for what the garments represent.And one should easily recognize that the dislike and distrust is in the eye of the viewer . And considering one is pretty much guaranteed not to see more than one every two weeks if not a month.....No one should worry a whit about a burqa Quote
Argus Posted February 20, 2015 Report Posted February 20, 2015 I didn't suggest or imply you disagreed with the court's decision. Indeed, it was pretty obvious that I was pointing out that you were just using the thread on those particular subject to as a vehicle for your views on Islam and immigration, views that have been repeated on this board ad nauseam. And would you suggest the contrary views had also been repeated 'ad nauseum'? Probably not, since you share those views. Would you suggest we simply stop talking about anything we've already discussed before? As for the Quebec thing, well, it's just funny watching you cite, with some obvious approval, the opinions of a group of people you refer to as "cultural bigots and racists." And once again you're reading things into my words because of an inability to actually deal with the words themselves. This is something unfortunately common to the Left. Lacking intelligent arguments they resort to asserting moral failings on the part of those with whom they disagree. It's rather pathetic and contemptible, really. I didn't state those beliefs "with obvious approval". I simply stated them in response to those who presume, as they always do, that their fringe opinions are mainstream and shared by all. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted February 21, 2015 Report Posted February 21, 2015 As it is for almost all politicians. Or do you think Trudeau is supporting the anti-terror legislation because he likes it?Trudeau no more likes it than Harper needs it.Both are cut from the same cowardly venal cloth. Like you said as it is for almost all politicians. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cybercoma Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Posted February 21, 2015 Trudeau no more likes it than Harper needs it. Both are cut from the same cowardly venal cloth. Like you said as it is for almost all politicians. Yet it's pretty funny that the Liberal Senate is going to vote it down that past Liberal Prime Ministers harshly criticize it, yet Trudeau is going to support it. Trudeau is nothing more than a political opportunist. He's going to govern by the polls and stand for absolutely no principles whatsoever. Quote
overthere Posted February 21, 2015 Report Posted February 21, 2015 It is interesting that a single woman with a scarf on her head can terrify so many people. Imagine what she could do with a tablecloth. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
jacee Posted February 21, 2015 Report Posted February 21, 2015 It is interesting that a single woman with a scarf on her head can terrify so many people. Imagine what she could do with a tablecloth. . Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Why are we allowing a non Canadian to dictate to us how to become a Canadian? They should be conforming to our society. What's next? We shouldn't be allowing anyone from countries who belive this stuff into Canada in the first place. This isn't the country for them. They'd be more comfortable someplace else I'm sure. To anyone who tries to say we all wear niqabs in winter. No, no we dont. people take off the face covering when driving and when we go indoors, these people don't. They hardly seem like people though because in our society we use facial cues a lot. Its rude to have your face covered all the time. Edited February 27, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf Quote
Topaz Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 ANY of this kind of stuff like this, should go back to the government for not advising people BEFORE becoming Canadians what the rules are and if they can't live with them, then they can chose another country to live in. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) And would you suggest the contrary views had also been repeated 'ad nauseum'? Probably not, since you share those views. So you'd rather rant into the void, is that it? Would you suggest we simply stop talking about anything we've already discussed before? Unless you're offering something new on the subject, then yes. And once again you're reading things into my words because of an inability to actually deal with the words themselves. This is something unfortunately common to the Left. Lacking intelligent arguments they resort to asserting moral failings on the part of those with whom they disagree. It's rather pathetic and contemptible, really. Whatever you say Shady. I didn't state those beliefs "with obvious approval". I simply stated them in response to those who presume, as they always do, that their fringe opinions are mainstream and shared by all. Opinions shared by True Scotsmen and "racist bigots," to use your phrase, are not necessary mainstream either. Edited February 27, 2015 by Black Dog Quote
Black Dog Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Why are we allowing a non Canadian to dictate to us how to become a Canadian? Didn't realize everyone had to wear the niqab at these things now. Huh. Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Starting to get silly now... http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/26/quebec-hijab-judge/ Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 It is interesting that a single woman with a scarf on her head can terrify so many people. Imagine what she could do with a tablecloth. Why don't you force a woman to wear one, and see what happens? Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 What if a woman comes from Somalia or Pakistan or Afghanistan or some other place where this is enforced a her mosque tells her she must wear it? Her imam tells her she must wear as does her husband. Say, she doesn't speak much English if at all, so has no contact with outside life other than in her own cultural ghetto. Upon going to the citizenship oath she sees women wearing this so she thinks the men in her life was right even though in her mind she wants to be free. So now we've just become complicit in the practice of subjugation against women. Quote
Big Guy Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 To bcsapper - There are many members of the Catholic Church that believe that a woman should cover her head while in church. It was mandated right into the 1960's. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) To bcsapper - There are many members of the Catholic Church that believe that a woman should cover her head while in church. It was mandated right into the 1960's. Yes, I know. I was baptised and raised as a Roman Catholic until my enlightenment, at about mid teens. I'm not sure why you would mention that to me though. Edit> You are still having trouble with the quote feature? Have you tried Firefox? Edited February 27, 2015 by bcsapper Quote
Smallc Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 To bcsapper - There are many members of the Catholic Church that believe that a woman should cover her head while in church. It was mandated right into the 1960's. And that is equally ridiculous. I doubt anyone will defend it. It's also worth noting though, that's 50-60 years n the past. Quote
The_Squid Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Starting to get silly now... http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/26/quebec-hijab-judge/ That's interesting... I wonder if this judge demands that Sikh men remove their turbans? Or if a nun appeared, if they would be told to not wear their nun clothes? Would a nun wear their uniform in court, or are they allowed to dress in civilian clothes outside of official nun business? Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Most nuns I knew weren't in the habit of wearing civilian clothes. Sorry... Edited February 27, 2015 by bcsapper Quote
jacee Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Why don't you force a woman to wear one, and see what happens? Nobody forced this woman to wear a niqab and she went to court to prove her right to wear it and she won. Nobody's business what someone chooses to wear, or why. I've been wearing an f'ng scarf over my face for two f'ng months because of this f'ng weather. I,m getting used to it, kinda like it, may keep it up. F'ng sue me!! Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Oh absolutely. I fully support her right to wear what she wants, and have stated so in this thread. Or somewhere on here. I also know most women who wear such garments are forced into it. Sue me! Edit> How do you know nobody forced her? Not saying anyone did, but I'm wondering how you know that. Edited February 27, 2015 by bcsapper Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Nobody forced this woman to wear a niqab and she went to court to prove her right to wear it and she won. Nobody's business what someone chooses to wear, or why. I've been wearing an f'ng scarf over my face for two f'ng months because of this f'ng weather. I,m getting used to it, kinda like it, may keep it up. F'ng sue me!! so when you're driving or go into the shopping mall you keep the scarf over your face? You don't remove it ever in public? 1 Do you also support a womens word is only half that of a mans? Do you support killing people with rocks Who are heretics, apostates? Do you support honour killings? If you support the niqab, you should because all the above is from the exact same culture. You cannot pickand choose. Either you support her culture or you dont. Edited February 27, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 Either you support her culture or you dont. No, it's more like you support people having constitutional freedoms, or you prefer no choice for individuals. You have a corrupted view of what it means to be Canadian, basically saying somebody is less of a person because of their name, Mr. "Pure Leaf"... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
jacee Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Oh absolutely. I fully support her right to wear what she wants, and have stated so in this thread. Or somewhere on here. I also know most women who wear such garments are forced into it. How do you know that? Sue me! Edit> How do you know nobody forced her? Not saying anyone did, but I'm wondering how you know that. If she was looking for an excuse to take it off, she had one.If she was wanted to take it off, she wouldn't have gone to court to be able to wear it. . Edited February 27, 2015 by jacee Quote
Guest Posted February 27, 2015 Report Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) How do you know that? If she was looking for an excuse to take it off, she had one. If she was wanted to take it off, she wouldn't have gone to court to be able to wear it. . Reasonable assumptions, to be sure. Like mine, I guess. Edited February 27, 2015 by bcsapper Quote
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