bush_cheney2004 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Popular use of Presidential middle names is common.Consider: Good point...I would add these: Hiram Ulysses Grant went by Ulysses Stephen Grover Cleveland went by Grover John Calvin Coolidge, Jr. went by Calvin Thomas Woodrow Wilson went by Woodrow Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Posted September 10, 2014 Good point...I would add these: Hiram Ulysses Grant went by Ulysses Stephen Grover Cleveland went by Grover John Calvin Coolidge, Jr. went by Calvin Thomas Woodrow Wilson went by Woodrow Thanks. I was not aware of those. Add John Quincy Adams (maybe just to distinguish himself from this father, another one-term President, who were both more stellar as post-Presidents than as Presidents). Or "W" (maybe to distinguish himself from George Herbert Walker the Jew hater Bush) Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Ova a doesn't go by Hussein though. He certainly doesn't go by B Hussein. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Popular use of Presidential middle names is common.Consider: Franklin Delano Roosevelt; Dwight David Eisenhower; John Fitzgerald Kennedy; Lyndon Baines Johnson; and William Jefferson Clinton Only Nixon's (Milhous) and Obama's (Hussein) have been attacked by some as disparaging. I don't know why Obama's should be considered disparaging. It's his name and reflects his heritage. He should wear it with pride. What smug, disingenuous piffle. Does Obama use his middle name? Nope. So if he doesn't, the White house doesn't, the media doesn't, why would you? Quote
Shady Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Thanks. I was not aware of those. Add John Quincy Adams (maybe just to distinguish himself from this father, another one-term President, who were both more stellar as post-Presidents than as Presidents). Or "W" (maybe to distinguish himself from George Herbert Walker the Jew hater Bush) Yep. And it seems to be ok for them to refer to Bush as Dubya. But don't say Hussein! Quote
GostHacked Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 The patriot acts was written and passed with congresses approval. Not unilaterally. We can also get into the multiple executive orders Bush put into place. Quote
Shady Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 We can also get into the multiple executive orders Bush put into place. Which ones? Quote
GostHacked Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) You mean Clinton's mess. Bin Laden could have been dealt with before 2001. But he was left to house up in Afghanistan to plot attacks. So why did Bush do nothing with the intelligence given to the US regarding an imminent attack on the USA? Various PDBs As Bush said when asked a key question,'There's a time for politics..' Bush knew damn well what was about to happen. Edited September 10, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
GostHacked Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Which ones? Now, who's being obtuse? Quote
waldo Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Yep. And it seems to be ok for them to refer to Bush as Dubya. But don't say Hussein! Bush embraced the nickname 'Dubya'... which as much came out of his own pronunciation and the Texas accent he took on. Of course, it also reflects the stereotypical 'good ole boy' image that Bush so endeared himself to. anyone who purposely emphasizes Obama's middle name does so for only one reason... and you certainly know what that is! Quote
Shady Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Bush embraced the nickname 'Dubya'... which as much came out of his own pronunciation and the Texas accent he took on. Of course, it also reflects the stereotypical 'good ole boy' image that Bush so endeared himself to. anyone who purposely emphasizes Obama's middle name does so for only one reason... and you certainly know what that is! Ah I see, so it's the intellectual process of making fun of somebody's accent. Would you do that if he was a minority? Quote
waldo Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Ah I see, so it's the intellectual process of making fun of somebody's accent. Would you do that if he was a minority? try again! Read the part about Bush embracing his good ole' boy imaging... and that nickname. Quote
waldo Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 c'mon Shady... Obama doesn't use his middle name/initial. Step up and speak to the reason why some/you choose to emphasize 'Hussein' and/or attempt to naively claim it means nothing. C'mon Shady... show some of that/your "intellectual process" you just spoke of to explain the rationale behind the emphasis on 'Hussein'. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Ah I see, so it's the intellectual process of making fun of somebody's accent. Would you do that if he was a minority? No silly-billy, it's about personal and common usage. Quote
Shady Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 try again! Read the part about Bush embracing his good ole' boy imaging... and that nickname. Right, he's embracing it, it's not at all who he is. So again, would you do the same thing to a minority, embracing their image? You guys are pathetic. Quote
Shady Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 No silly-billy, it's about personal and common usage. Common usage like it's common to include president's middle names? Because that's pretty much standard. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Common usage like it's common to include president's middle names? Because that's pretty much standard. For some, not all. Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, Coolidge, Teddy Roosevelt, McKinley, Harrison, Cleveland, Johnson, Lincoln, Jackson, Madison, Adams, Washington. None of these guys used their middle names or initials. Oh yes: and Obama. Such a silly-billy you are! Edited September 10, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
GostHacked Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Common usage like it's common to include president's middle names? Because that's pretty much standard. What's Bill Clinton's middle name? Whats Bush Jr's middle name? And why don't you ever use their middle names when talking about them? Quote
kimmy Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 I think it's pretty funny that the same people who were mad that I kept using Mr Romney's first name are arguing in favor of using Mr Obama's middle name. Regardless, people who insist on referencing the president's middle name are really just stereotyping themselves. Who refers to Mr Obama as Hussein? Tea Party morons, Facebook cranks, birthers, conspiracy kooks, and the like. If you want to self-identify yourself with that crowd, go right ahead. It won't change anybody's opinion of Mr Obama, but it certainly invites people to make assumptions about you. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, Coolidge, Teddy Roosevelt, McKinley, Harrison, Cleveland, Johnson, Lincoln, Jackson, Madison, Adams, Washington. None of these guys used their middle names or initials. Really ? Coolidge used his middle name (Calvin). Cleveland used his middle name (Grover...like on Sesame Street) 17 U.S. presidents had no known middle name, including Washington. Thanks for playing ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 that "good for the country" is sure a most selectively applied platitude! THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Apparently the children in Canada grow up to think a lot about U.S. presidents. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 geezaz! The actual quote reads: "To Mr. Obama’s critics, the disparity between the president’s previous statements and today’s reality reflects not simply poorly chosen words but a fundamentally misguided view of the world." C'mon Shady... did you get that from Breitbart... FoxNews... Hot Air... or where? Fess up! That's seriously some terrible reading comprehension right there. Quote
Rue Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Well now Kimmy you clearly have zero problem stereotyping people.Lol in one breath you criticize people for stereotyping, then in the next breath stereotype. Love that consistency, Here is the point Shady was making to all you politically correct people afraid of the name Hussein. Barry Hussein Obama stopped using the name only when he was elected President. Before that he used it., His half brother is a top financier for the Muslim Brotherhood and his step father was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. What we should ignore that? You want to also suggest he is not sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood? He came right out and formed a coalition with erdogan and Morsi openly praising the Muslim Brotherhood. He has eight advisors all pro Muslim Brotherhood. He financed the training of ISIS in Turkey. He bloody well financed and supported Al Quaeda's removal of Ghaddafi and remained silent letting his own ambassador be sodomized to death rather than get into a fight with his Al Quaeda allies. Barry Hussein Obama came to office claiming he would win over the Muslim world through his understanding of and close connection to the Muslim Brotherhood and clearly at one point the CIA bought into that b.s. Now as usual its come back to bite the US in its buttox and ISIS has turned rogue no different than the Taliban (formerly known as the Mujahadeen when the US financed their war against the Soviets), that other Hussein in Iraq, Noriega, Ghaddafi, Nasser. Barry Hussein Obama is petrified to use his middle name and to get elected he had to assure everyone he was Christian. That is the point. You want to pretend he's not sympathetic to Muslims and is a good Christian knock yourself out. By the way, Its William Jefferson Clinton Jr. its also customary that all US Presidents be referred to formally using all their given names such s Ronald Wilson Reagan or Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Robert Ford or James Earl Carter Jr. None of them used their middle names but sure as hell never hid them from use. The US Edited September 10, 2014 by Rue Quote
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