Derek 2.0 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Not according to numerous eyewitnesses. And you only have to look at the scene pictures widely shown on TV to understand he was quite a ways from the police vehicle when he was shot, and he was unarmed. As I said....it clearly depends on what is found out after an investigation……..If the officer is found of wrong doing, that is not an indictment against all police officers…… Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 As I said....it clearly depends on what is found out after an investigation……..If the officer is found of wrong doing, that is not an indictment against all police officers…… Not individually perhaps, but I think the discussion of the militarization of the local police is something that will be ongoing and hopefully will come to some better outcomes than what they have their now. Unfortunately it seems to be crossing the border into Canada somewhat. Quote
Topaz Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Whatever happened to.. "Stop or I'll shoot" and then the cops should have shot him in the leg, not shoot to kill an unarm person. It's the 1960's all over again. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Not individually perhaps, but I think the discussion of the militarization of the local police is something that will be ongoing and hopefully will come to some better outcomes than what they have their now. Unfortunately it seems to be crossing the border into Canada somewhat. What militarization? Members of the police wearing Nomex uniforms, ballistic plate carriers, safety glasses and helmets? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 What militarization? Members of the police wearing Nomex uniforms, ballistic plate carriers, safety glasses and helmets? MRAP's, assault rifles, stun grenades, tear gas. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 What militarization? Members of the police wearing Nomex uniforms, ballistic plate carriers, safety glasses and helmets? Oh no...scary ! Just like in August of 1968 in Chicago (Democrat National Convention): Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Oh no...scary ! Just like in August of 1968 in Chicago (Democrat National Convention): Always good to have the goofy redneck approach represented. Kind of reminds you of Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Only currently it's Ferguson burning. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 In Canada? It's slowly happening here. We ca look back at the G20 and check out how some of those cops were kitted out. Of course it makes them paramilitary. What the hell else would it make them? Whatever happenned to "to serve and protect" ? It's to serve and protect the state. Not you the individual. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 It's slowly happening here. We ca look back at the G20 and check out how some of those cops were kitted out. It's to serve and protect the state. Not you the individual. Right then, let the state pay them. If they're not here for me I'll just deduct the amount from my taxes that pays their salary. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Right then, let the state pay them. If they're not here for me I'll just deduct the amount from my taxes that pays their salary. You already paid for the lot of it. Most new kit the police are using, like the MRAP, military vehicles. Urban warfare in the streets of the USA. Home of the free. But, you are right, we should stop paying taxes overall. The money is not being spent well obviously. If you need to militarize your police, you have failed in proper governance of and service to the people. Something really messed up has taken place for the cops to become Gestapo-esque. And look how the media has jumped on this. There have got to be other incidents like this almost every day in the great land of the free. But why is this one getting so much publicity? Also can we drop the whole 'African-American' bit? They are black Americans. Many far detached from Africa. Quote
Shady Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 So serving and protecting means killing unarmed teenagers? We don't know the details of what happened. What you say might be completely true. Or it might be the exact opposite. So stop pretending that we do. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 We don't know the details of what happened. What you say might be completely true. Or it might be the exact opposite. So stop pretending that we do. They have posted numerous crime scene photos oin various networks. You don't have to be Dick Tracy to see from just those that there was no need to shoot this boy. Quote
Shady Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 They have posted numerous crime scene photos oin various networks. You don't have to be Dick Tracy to see from just those that there was no need to shoot this boy. Crime scene photos don't give us the details of the events leading up to the shooting, or even the details of the event at large. It's reckless to say and think so. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 We don't know the details of what happened. What you say might be completely true. Or it might be the exact opposite. So stop pretending that we do. Pretty much....remember all the excitement over the Trayvon Martin case...Zimmerman was acquitted. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Btw, I'd be much more fearful of the rioters, than the police. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Crime scene photos don't give us the details of the events leading up to the shooting, or even the details of the event at large. It's reckless to say and think so. We don't know what occured at the police car. We do know he was running away from the car when shot. We know he didn't have a gun. Either his own or one he took from the cop. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Pretty much....remember all the excitement over the Trayvon Martin case...Zimmerman was acquitted. So was OJ. Quote
Shady Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 We don't know what occured at the police car. Exactly. Until everything is known, you're just jumping to conclusions, and spreading inconclusive opinion. There is a right of innocence before proven guilty. The legal process will play out. Stop trying to take away people's rights, over your emotions and opinions on a small portion of information. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Exactly. Until everything is known, you're just jumping to conclusions, and spreading inconclusive opinion. There is a right of innocence before proven guilty. The legal process will play out. Stop trying to take away people's rights, over your emotions and opinions on a small portion of information. OK, wanna talk about rights? If the black kid had of shot the white cop, do you think we'd not know his name yet? HA Ha Quote
waldo Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) What militarization? Members of the police wearing Nomex uniforms, ballistic plate carriers, safety glasses and helmets? here ya go - you're welcome! Edited August 15, 2014 by waldo Quote
Shady Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 OK, wanna talk about rights? If the black kid had of shot the white cop, do you think we'd not know his name yet? HA Ha We probably would. But the only reason this particular cop's identity is being withheld, is for safety. He'd probably be dead by now. Possibly his family too. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 Pretty much....remember all the excitement over the Trayvon Martin case...Zimmerman was acquitted. Luckily they had enough brains down there to take out the red neck military style steroid soaked gonks off line and brought in a more sensible police force who shed the army vehicles and riot gear and things are now returning to normal. Take a lesson. Quote
eyeball Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 So, another example of why police should be wearing cameras and microphones that capture the evidence of what and what didn't happen. This should have been standard protocol for police forces just about everywhere by now. It is after all the year 20 freaking 14. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 OK...just make sure all the criminals wear cameras and microphones too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted August 15, 2014 Report Posted August 15, 2014 OK...just make sure all the criminals wear cameras and microphones too. Now there's a stupid statement if ever there was one. Quote
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