On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 I don't know how some people can get up each day and ignore reality. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Apparently, some people get up each day and can't ignore the United States. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 And others have the same problem with Canada. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Although I don't quite get why with regard to this topic. There are some flogging an incident that occurred here almost 8 years ago at YVR airport. Those things seem to be happening every other day down south there. All fun and games though. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Vancouver police shot a mentally ill man in the street.....just last month. Fun and games..... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-shooting-captured-on-video-by-teen-1.2848561 Edited December 13, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Vancouver police shot a mentally ill man in the street.....just last month. Fun and games..... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-shooting-captured-on-video-by-teen-1.2848561 Oh yeah we have some brain dead cops up here who think it's all fun and games to kill people too. Just not near so many. Quote
jacee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) There are some flogging an incident that occurred here almost 8 years ago at YVR airport.Because it's not over. There's an officer's perjury trial in progress now.http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/british-columbia/former-rcmp-officer-s-alleged-perjury-compared-to-air-india-bomber-1.2870766 Robinson is facing one count of perjury in relation to eight lies he allegedly said at the Braidwood Inquiry in 2009. I'm aware of 2 more cases, but here's a summary of 5 cases of police killing mentally ill people in Canada: http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/british-columbia/police-shootings-often-involve-mental-illness-and-ill-prepared-officers-1.2850020 Regardless of who it is, I maintain that failing to follow police verbal order should not be justification for killing. It's reason for police to try other means of defusing a situation. Racial profiling is an issue here too: http://toronto.mediacoop.ca/blog/ajamu-nangwaya/18378 On October 19, 2002, the Toronto Star published the findings of its landmark investigation into police racial profiling in Toronto. It obtained access to a police database that recorded 480,000 incidents of police contact with civilians from 1996 to 2001, which generated a ticket or arrest. It was clearly established that Afrikans received racially differential treatment from the police. Edited December 13, 2014 by jacee Quote
Bob Macadoo Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 I just did....what's your beef ? Sarcasm is an art form. ...and you finger paint with it. That's the aggravating part. Quote
GostHacked Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 I see people are still feeding the troll around here. Had to skip over a couple more pages of stupidity. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 I see people are still feeding the troll around here. Had to skip over a couple more pages of stupidity. Just avoid trolls then, and report trolling if you must. No need to tag trolls... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Just avoid trolls then, and report trolling if you must. No need to tag trolls... Reporting does not do anything Mr. Hardner. Tag em and ban em. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Reporting does not do anything Mr. Hardner. Tag em and ban em. Report and ignore, and leave the rest to the mods. They do warn/suspend people who break the rules, I know that. But this is for another thread... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Smallc Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Oh yeah we have some brain dead cops up here who think it's all fun and games to kill people too. Just not near so many. And I'm glad you've been there at all of those incidents to be in such a great position to judge. Quote
Smallc Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Regardless of who it is, I maintain that failing to follow police verbal order should not be justification for killing. It's reason for police to try other means of defusing a situation. That really depends on the situation. Sometimes, it is justified. Sometimes it isn't. Sometimes people don't act when it is justified, and sometimes they do act when it's not. Each case has to be examined on its own. Quote
eyeball Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Which is why cops need to wear cameras, to ensure there's actually something to examine. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Often many of my American friends suggest tazers. I always give a recitation of Vancouver Airport. Those clowns used the tazer five times, then lied about it. They were eager to try it out. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Once again the head troll get's it wrong. Perjury trials are under way at the moment. Yes, but we are not trying them for killing the man but for lying about it afterward on reports and in front of the inquiry. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Interesting...makes me wonder why Jon Stewart is so popular in Canada. He uses satire, mockery, sarcasm, etc. Perhaps you have heard of him ? Yes, but he's funny. You, not so much. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Which is why cops need to wear cameras, to ensure there's actually something to examine. While I am an advocate of cameras I can see the issue the cops have with them. Tie this in with the municipal politics topic on the 2 firefighters fired in Toronto for tweeting something politically incorrect and you get people fearful that if they say something off-colour or politically incorrect they'll be punished for it. Add to that situations occur which evolve in seconds, giving little or no time to think out a response. That's particularly so in violent situations, which may also be laden with emotions. So a cop gets a second to make a decision, or maybe just react reflexively. Meanwhile, people get to review their action at leisure, calmly and with an academic viewpoint and watching the video in slow motion and having plenty of time to consider what the could SHOULD have done or COULD have done. Edited December 13, 2014 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
sharkman Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 I see people are still feeding the troll around here. Had to skip over a couple more pages of stupidity. Are you serious? On Guard For Thee can't stop his verbal diarrhea anymore than you can stop believing in conspiracy theories. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 And I'm glad you've been there at all of those incidents to be in such a great position to judge. Nowadays you don't have to be there, lots of people have those damn Iphones so you can just sit back and watch a guy get tazered to death in the airport, or a kid get shot alone in a streetcar surrounded by cops, That sort of thing. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Yes, but we are not trying them for killing the man but for lying about it afterward on reports and in front of the inquiry. Which is why I referred to them as perjury trials. I think I know the answer to this question but not being a lawyer I'm not sure, but if perjury is proven can that have any effect on previous acquittals? Quote
eyeball Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 While I am an advocate of cameras I can see the issue the cops have with them.. Too bad so sad. They'll be a condition of their job. If they don't like it they can go find another one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Bryan Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 Often many of my American friends suggest tazers. I always give a recitation of Vancouver Airport. Unlike choke holds, Tazers really do kill people. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 13, 2014 Report Posted December 13, 2014 It took 5 applications of the tazer to kill the guy in YVR. One application of a choke hold seems to be much more effective. Quote
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